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Old 09-20-2003, 02:43 AM   #51
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you better do that because i find your kind so vile i cant convey to you how much you make me want bite your eye balls out and spit them back at you
next time ya talk to me why dont you spit mommies nipple out of your mouth!
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Old 09-20-2003, 02:49 AM   #52
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not this topic again...
people who were pro-choice in the other thread are still pro-choice..and people who were anti-abortion, are still anti-abortion too...proof that these threads are useless....
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Old 09-20-2003, 03:09 AM   #53
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She's actually the load her mother should have swallowed instead, when she was fucking some redneck in the back of his '89 pickup.
You should pray for Jebus to help you, that's how stupid you are!

Besides, if she was concived in a '89 pickup, that would make her 14 tops
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You should pray for Jebus to help you, that's how stupid you are!

Besides, if she was concived in a '89 pickup, that would make her 14 tops
14 now that would be a good age level to be on to deal with these idiots.
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Old 09-20-2003, 03:11 AM   #55
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i dont know how to answer that, hmm amusing
yeah that is quite amusing

Go to your local library, read about the difference between a baby and a fetus, than you might possibly be able to answer it, idiot!
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14 now that would be a good age level to be on to deal with these idiots.
Actually I've never met a 14 year old that is as stupis as they are
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Actually I've never met a 14 year old that is as stupis as they are
True I'm giving them way too much credit! But I do always feel sorry for people who are less fortunate.
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You should pray for Jebus to help you, that's how stupid you are!

Besides, if she was concived in a '89 pickup, that would make her 14 tops

Judging from her posts, she's about 8
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yeah that is quite amusing

Go to your local library, read about the difference between a baby and a fetus, than you might possibly be able to answer it, idiot!

i dont care what a book tells me about it, its murder plain and simple and the sluts that commit the murder should be strilized or put down like ferrel dogs


as for my pet whore marina, the best advice i can give you is to go a suck a big fat dick, shut your mouth, your opinion means shit, your a worthless slut
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Consiousness (soul, or whatever you call it) enters the "being" as soon as it has been conceived. So yes, it is a murder.
Consciousness? You are telling us that a small group of yet to be defined cells without a brain has consciousness?
And if you are saying just that, why don't sperm cells and egg cells have consciousness?
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WTF people, are you for real ?

You are saying that it's ok to kill your baby ?
If it was going to be you, yeah. I bet your momma's REAL proud of you, bubba -- she probably wishes, every time she has to look at you, that she'd just decided to keep her legs shut when you were concieved. OH, that would be preventing a pregnancy, wouldn't it? That would be wrong! Every sperm deserves to live, right? Even when it's going to grow up to be a mouth-breathing dumbass idiot like you.

People like you are the reason I am pro-choice.
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If it was going to be you, yeah. I bet your momma's REAL proud of you, bubba -- she probably wishes, every time she has to look at you, that she'd just decided to keep her legs shut when you were concieved. OH, that would be preventing a pregnancy, wouldn't it? That would be wrong! Every sperm deserves to live, right? Even when it's going to grow up to be a mouth-breathing dumbass idiot like you.

People like you are the reason I am pro-choice.

the world will be cleansed of your kind soon die
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I have to agree with the people that didn't find this funny.

I knew a girl in college that was beaten to the point of near death and raped..............a month later found out she was pregnant. She chose to get an abortion.

Lets also not forget that piece of shit that raped a woman, the woman had the baby...was enough of a mental case over it and 10 years later when the guy got out of prison-- took her to court for visitation rights and some judge on crack granted him supervised visitation.
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Old 09-20-2003, 05:28 AM   #65
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you people make me sick!
it is NOT ok to kill a baby

you feel sorry for a murderer that died trying to murder her baby?

if she wasnt prepared for baby that bitch shouldnt have opened her legs

this world is so fucked up and its because of the majority on this thread, supporting baby killers


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actually, it WOULD be funny to see a murderer kill herself in the act HAD the person being murdered survived. it is sad to know that an innocent victim was murdered though, and the world now has closure the murderer is dead but it doesnt make what happened really any better...

even with that said, i will have to say i am pro-choice, im pro anything that is against any type of censorship, but hey, i'm a realist also and a str8 shooter....
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so i guess being pro-choice but classifying what is done as a murder makes me SNAFU, so be it.... yes, quote me, i SUPPORT murder and i'm proud to say it.... even if it is obviously kinda fuct up
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Funny? I think its sad. She was an 18 year old girl who made the mistake of sex without protection.
Unfortunately in this day and age, that's not a mistake, it's fucking stupidity. If a teenager in this day and age doesn't acknowledge the fact that sex is not only potentially dangerous, but has potentially life-long conscequences after all the education they recieve, and all the messages around them, they are stupid, plain and simple. I think the whole incident is a shame, and it shouldn't have happened in the FIRST place if the girl had had half a brain to tell him to wrap it. She could have ended up with AIDS just as easily. Sex isn't a game, these days it can be deadly.

Walk up to ONE teenager and ask them if it's a good idea to have unprotected sex.. I guarantee 99% of them will say NO! You can get AIDS! They KNOW, they're just too fucking dumb (as in young dumb) to take it seriously.
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so i guess being pro-choice but classifying what is done as a murder makes me SNAFU, so be it.... yes, quote me, i SUPPORT murder and i'm proud to say it.... even if it is obviously kinda fuct up
I think abortion is one of those issues that's dependant on the situation. If some dumb bitch gets herself knocked up because she wasn't smart enough to wrap it, in MY perfect world she'd be forced to HAVE the baby, then give it up to a family that couldn't have children of their own and really wanted one. I disagree with abortion as a form of birth control, but I can't TOTALLY diasagree with abortion. What about aborting an etopic pregnancy (a tubal pregnancy). It's a pregnancy that WILL KILL both mother AND CHILD WITHOUT FAIL. Is she a murderer if she has an abortion in that case? What about a young girl (12-13 years old) who gets pregnant from brutal rape? Is she supposed to go through pregnancy and birth to a child who is the product of brutality? Or incest (where the child has good potential for retardation or other physical problems?). Honestly, I think it's very situational. Imagine being a woman in the positions I've mentioned here (or a child, for that matter) and then tell me that you would never have an abortion.
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So God is fictional ?

Tell that to that bitch who wanted to kill her child and got owned instead.
HAHA

Grab your little dolls and dance around your tribal campfire some more.
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I think abortion is one of those issues that's dependant on the situation. If some dumb bitch gets herself knocked up because she wasn't smart enough to wrap it, in MY perfect world she'd be forced to HAVE the baby, then give it up to a family that couldn't have children of their own and really wanted one. I disagree with abortion as a form of birth control, but I can't TOTALLY diasagree with abortion. What about aborting an etopic pregnancy (a tubal pregnancy). It's a pregnancy that WILL KILL both mother AND CHILD WITHOUT FAIL. Is she a murderer if she has an abortion in that case? What about a young girl (12-13 years old) who gets pregnant from brutal rape? Is she supposed to go through pregnancy and birth to a child who is the product of brutality? Or incest (where the child has good potential for retardation or other physical problems?). Honestly, I think it's very situational. Imagine being a woman in the positions I've mentioned here (or a child, for that matter) and then tell me that you would never have an abortion.
LM you and i are in total agreement.

once you have a kid too it really does put things in perspective. my daughter is beautiful and i can't fathom losing her. i wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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you are really on a roll today with your posts today slick. keep up the good work
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Justice has been served to this murderer. She deserved it, and hopefully more of this happens in the future.
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People like you are the reason I am pro-choice.

You are an angst driven lesbian.
Your oppinion doesnt count.



To whoever posted the rape / or being poor stories:
She was not raped. And she wasnt poor. In fact, she was making good money and had a good job.
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That girl lived here in Livermore where i am, really sad some Antiabortion fuckers are walking around with signs saying that she got what she deserved, it happend to her for betraying the word of god & shit.
I hope sombody Mows those fuckers down with a delivery truck.
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she got what she deserved, it happend to her for betraying the word of god & shit.

Oh yeah, it was such just coincidence.
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I really wonder how many men would be against abortion if they were the ones actually getting pregnant and had to deal with the situation.. what i find disturbing is that she was given this drug unsupervised ...the real blame lays in the people who are subscribing this to young women in trouble...remember she was only 18 and probably scared she would end up with a baby tht some "guy" helped her make and wouldnt take his share of responsibility...

today i must say.. dark jedi
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I think abortion is one of those issues that's dependant on the situation. If some dumb bitch gets herself knocked up because she wasn't smart enough to wrap it, in MY perfect world she'd be forced to HAVE the baby, then give it up to a family that couldn't have children of their own and really wanted one. I disagree with abortion as a form of birth control, but I can't TOTALLY diasagree with abortion. What about aborting an etopic pregnancy (a tubal pregnancy). It's a pregnancy that WILL KILL both mother AND CHILD WITHOUT FAIL. Is she a murderer if she has an abortion in that case? What about a young girl (12-13 years old) who gets pregnant from brutal rape? Is she supposed to go through pregnancy and birth to a child who is the product of brutality? Or incest (where the child has good potential for retardation or other physical problems?). Honestly, I think it's very situational. Imagine being a woman in the positions I've mentioned here (or a child, for that matter) and then tell me that you would never have an abortion.
I agree with LadyM 100%

I believe it's all a matter of special situations. Abortion should be an option for rape and incest victims, pregnancies that could result in death, when detected early on etc.

LadyM is right. In this day in age, its sheer laziness and stupidity to not prevent an unwanted pregnancy. I don't think abortion should be a casual substitute to "making a mistake". It's true, some people should not have children and raise them, when they are mentally, emotionally and financially unready. They should do the right thing, face the consequences of their careless actions, bring the pregnancy to full term and give that child up for adoption. So many infertile couples out there, that would do just about anything to adopt. People say "I could never give my baby away after seeing it" ...Yeah so killing it will weigh much less on your conscience. That makes a lot of sense!

There are countless birth control methods out there now, including abstinence. I'm not saying, consenting adults should not have sex... but come on. If you don't know sex could result in pregnancy, then you shouldn't do it. That's why there's laws in place for the age of consent, to make sure people fully understand the consequences. If you can make the decision to have sex, then you must be accountable for your actions. Not all children given up for adoption, are put into the system and passed around from foster home to another. You hear more about cases like this, because it's not as common for it to happen. You rarely hear about all the good adoption stories.

If you aren't ready for a child, never want them or simply don't plan on being with the person you are having sex with, long term... then simply prevent it. You wouldn't want to contract a long term STD, why would you want to contract a long term responsibility of another life? Sure accidents do happen, but it's both man and woman's job to take responsibility as far as birth control.

And for all you people that don't believe there's a God or a soul... don't celebrate Christmas or Easter
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I agree with LadyM 100%

Shit chick, do you realize hell just froze over!?? Hot damn good one! lol
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and for the ignorants... the RU-486 pill is given in early pregnancy (within 49 days of a woman's last menstrual period) to destroy the embryo!


Is the embryo (not even a foetus yet) a human being? Is a fertilized egg all of sudden a human being? Nope!

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Shit chick, do you realize hell just froze over!?? Hot damn good one! lol
Hahaha... actually I think you are very intelligent and have a lot of common sense

Just not when it comes to my beloved President!!
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Some of the people that are anti abortion should perhaps rethink before they post and see that this is a double loss of life 2 babies dying. There is no punch line here nothing to laugh over. Some of the comments posted here make you appear heartless therefore do nothing for your anti abortion aguements.
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I really wonder how many men would be against abortion if they were the ones actually getting pregnant and had to deal with the situation..
There are hundreds of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but if you are stupid and don't know about a damn rubber - it's your problem.
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Jedi all of my respect for you just flew out the window after reading your ignorant fucking post.

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"She was like an angel to me," he said, fighting back tears. "She was working, earning money, planning to go to college. She turned 18 on August 29. She had a new car, a red Honda Civic which now sits in the driveway."
You heartless piece of shit. Die.

P.S. For the record, I am Pro-choice.. nobody has the right to tell a grown woman what they can or cannot do to something that they must be commited to for 18 years and 9 months of their life. An embryo is not a child, it is a fertilized egg.
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There are hundreds of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but if you are stupid and don't know about a damn rubber - it's your problem.
when i heard of people getting abortions throughout my life i always thought to myself, "stupid whores, if they feel the need to open their legs then they should be ready to deal with the consequences"... rubbers can break...

i was in a situation where i was pretty sure mine did once, and i was fuckin paranoid till her next period, and i remember tellin her "um, you're gettin an abortion if theres a kid brewin in there" lol. it was a scary fuckin thought.


i don't believe whores, who continually have unprotected sex, should be able to have an abortion.. they need a fuckin wake up call, or atleast an STD or two to stop being such sluts lol.. but for those of us who had a condom break, i see it acceptable. not about to start workin my ass and not follow through w/ my dreams for some unwanted kid.
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Hahaha... actually I think you are very intelligent and have a lot of common sense

Just not when it comes to my beloved President!!
Lol well thanks! You're pretty smart too (except where it comes to your beloved president). However, I think we've agreed to disagree on Bush lol!!
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Old 09-20-2003, 10:14 AM   #91
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There are hundreds of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but if you are stupid and don't know about a damn rubber - it's your problem.
I fully agree.. Sometimes circumstances are beyond the female's control, as in the circumstances I've mentioned, and others. But making a "mistake" is an unacceptable reason for ending a life. There IS no excuse for stupidity.
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There are hundreds of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but if you are stupid and don't know about a damn rubber - it's your problem.
there are ways to prevent pregnancy.. and the rubber seems to be the only way a man has to deal with it.. but of course the girls are usually the ones that supply that too.... the real thing is improper education our young folks are recieving about birth control . I cant even begin to count how many times i have had condoms break,leak,fall off during intercourse....the only full proof was is absitnence.. but of course all the guys would be bitching about that too. It's both partys responsibility...takes two to make a child (unless its a test tube baby)...why you would laugh at a young girl who is obviously uneducated and made a bad decision to actually sleep with some moron and died trying to abort a fetus because supposedly trained officials told her it was safe is beyond me..grow the fuck up moron
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You heartless piece of shit. Die.

P.S. For the record, I am Pro-choice.. nobody has the right to tell a grown woman what they can or cannot do to something that they must be commited to for 18 years and 9 months of their life. An embryo is not a child, it is a fertilized egg.
There are MILLIONS of people in the world who would do ANYTHING to have a child. Adoption is always an option too. I'm pro-choice as well.. Within reason. Do you HONESTLY believe that abortion is an acceptable form of birth control? I personally know three or four girls who've had 3 or more abortions. What's their excuse?

"Oh, I'm too fucking stupid to use a rubber, so I'm going to let the government pay for all kinds of abortions so I don't have to deal with my "oops". And believe me, someone always pays in the end. Do these dumb bitches HAVE an excuse at this point? No.
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P.S. For the record, I am Pro-choice.. nobody has the right to tell a grown woman what they can or cannot do to something that they must be commited to for 18 years and 9 months of their life. An embryo is not a child, it is a fertilized egg.

Pro-choice? The choice was already made when that grown woman CHOSE to have sex. She knew that having sex could make her pregnant, she chose to use birth control, not to use birth control or not to have sex period. The choice was already made. You can say "I didn't choose to become pregnant". Yeah ya did... if you didn't use protection you did. Rape cases don't pertain to any of the above, that's a whole different story and act of violence that no choice is given for.
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there are ways to prevent pregnancy.. and the rubber seems to be the only way a man has to deal with it.. but of course the girls are usually the ones that supply that too.... the real thing is improper education our young folks are recieving about birth control . I cant even begin to count how many times i have had condoms break,leak,fall off during intercourse....the only full proof was is absitnence.. but of course all the guys would be bitching about that too. It's both partys responsibility...takes two to make a child (unless its a test tube baby)...why you would laugh at a young girl who is obviously uneducated and made a bad decision to actually sleep with some moron and died trying to abort a fetus because supposedly trained officials told her it was safe is beyond me..grow the fuck up moron
Part of the problem is the fact that kids these days don't THINK before they do. If more girls had to deal with reality checks, maybe the whole scenario COULD be prevented more often. Education is important, but the information is available to anyone who seeks it. Even some who don't. Just because a girl doesn't use a rubber doesn't mean she's uneducated. I know several girls who's had useless abortions and were FULLY aware of the implications of unprotected sex. They just let their pussies do the thinking and didn't think later. This is the same reason why more and more teenagers today are getting AIDS. Not because they DON'T know, but because they DON'T CARE! They aren't forced to deal with the consequences of their actions, because there ARE so many quick fixes available. It's a TOUGH call. But if by 18 they don't know a rubber is a rule, they honestly can't make excuses anymore. What happened to this girl is EXTREMELY unfortunate, I don't think she DESERVED to die, but maybe it will act as an eye-opener to OTHER girls to use their fucking heads for once.
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Pro-choice? The choice was already made when that grown woman CHOSE to have sex. She knew that having sex could make her pregnant, she chose to use birth control, not to use birth control or not to have sex period. The choice was already made. You can say "I didn't choose to become pregnant". Yeah ya did... if you didn't use protection you did. Rape cases don't pertain to any of the above, that's a whole different story and act of violence that no choice is given for.
Exactly.. Like I've said already in this thread, you ask ANY kid (and I can guarantee, even 12-14 year olds would answer the same almost unanimously) and they will tell you unprotected sex is bad.. They can even most likely rattle off different forms of contraception. But how many of them will USE it? More than less, we all hope.
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There are MILLIONS of people in the world who would do ANYTHING to have a child. Adoption is always an option too. I'm pro-choice as well.. Within reason. Do you HONESTLY believe that abortion is an acceptable form of birth control? I personally know three or four girls who've had 3 or more abortions. What's their excuse?

"Oh, I'm too fucking stupid to use a rubber, so I'm going to let the government pay for all kinds of abortions so I don't have to deal with my "oops". And believe me, someone always pays in the end. Do these dumb bitches HAVE an excuse at this point? No.
LadyM.. this isnt a pro-choice/pro-life debate.. to answer your inquiry, no I dont think abortion should be used as a form of birth control.. But I dont think anyone should be happy that this 18 year old girl died from it!

Same to you Furious_Female.. pro-choice/pro-life debate isnt something i care to get into.. that wasnt the intent of my post.. simply to point out how much of a fucking heartless bitch DarkJedi and anyone that supports his statements of Hate are.
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Pro-choice? The choice was already made when that grown woman CHOSE to have sex. She knew that having sex could make her pregnant, she chose to use birth control, not to use birth control or not to have sex period. The choice was already made. You can say "I didn't choose to become pregnant". Yeah ya did... if you didn't use protection you did. Rape cases don't pertain to any of the above, that's a whole different story and act of violence that no choice is given for.

uh.. condoms break... pills dont work at 100%...

oh btw, when the condom breaks, is the second day pill considered killing the baby... since the egg was fertilized...?
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"She was like an angel to me," he said, fighting back tears. "She was working, earning money, planning to go to college. She turned 18 on August 29. She had a new car, a red Honda Civic which now sits in the driveway."

Too bad he didn't mention she was a murderer too.
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Exactly.. Like I've said already in this thread, you ask ANY kid (and I can guarantee, even 12-14 year olds would answer the same almost unanimously) and they will tell you unprotected sex is bad.. They can even most likely rattle off different forms of contraception. But how many of them will USE it? More than less, we all hope.
so what happens if you take the precautions yet they still fail, or lets say a rape victim becomes pregnant. is it supposed to be wrong for that person to have an abortion? u cant just say only those kinds of people can or the majority of women who want an abortion may lie and say they were raped, u cant have it both ways. abortion should always be allowed in our society under certain situtations, and someone shouldnt die based on a choice they made when they are 18 years old. god does not look down with hate and anger at these kind of people. he looks to them with forgiveness.
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