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Old 09-16-2003, 08:30 PM   #51
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:31 PM   #52
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How much are you paying the girls on ur site to get them spanked ?
really depends but 900-3000
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:33 PM   #53
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really depends but 900-3000
Dam..My hair is long enough..If I put on some lipstick can I go for an audition?
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:33 PM   #54
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0 to millions, its not just the idea its the people behind it

But like I said you will need 130K min. to get that off the ground
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:34 PM   #55
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Dam..My hair is long enough..If I put on some lipstick can I go for an audition?
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:40 PM   #56
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:42 PM   #57
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Even if you dont get a note you always have to remember that someone might come any minute into the industry you are in.

Def. try to get some write ups ion local or national publications related to what you do.

Offer a unbeatable guarantee for consumers

And spy and keep close tabs on what these new guys are upto.

Thanks & you rock!

the hard part now is the last thing you mentioned, the others were kinda on my radar...

but the spying and gathering dirt is a little harder to figure out how to get done in a new environment/situation/industry...


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Old 09-16-2003, 08:42 PM   #58
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Do you think there is a future for Premium AVS sites run by a single amateur girl? Potential to make money that way?
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:44 PM   #59
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If someone was just beginning to start an offline biz, and 'got notice' from a predatory competitor that they were coming to 'control the market' within the next 6-12 mos...

besides pricing structures, business exclusivity agreements, etc


...what other things would you do to secure your place in the market?


(besides throwing money at the marketing machine)
fuck, i can answer this even without looking at my harvard business review. you can go on the defensive strategy and protect ur customers. doing so by offering more services that will make them rebill longer.

promote more to big sites and webmasters. differentiate.

i dont know too much about the biz biz, but i know i can relate some of this stuff from my biz classes.
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:45 PM   #60
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Thanks & you rock!

the hard part now is the last thing you mentioned, the others were kinda on my radar...

but the spying and gathering dirt is a little harder to figure out how to get done in a new environment/situation/industry...


thanks again...


well I dont know the industry but in 2000 I was developing a security related service, I really needed to know what some guys that raised money where upto, an employee there gave me all info, I located him since he had his resume on monster.com (keyword i searched for was the company I was trying to get info on) called him at home told him I am looking for someone in that business and can pay him crazy amount the guy got so excited he told me everything about what they where upto.

There is a trick to everything regardless the industry
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:47 PM   #62
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Do you think there is a future for Premium AVS sites run by a single amateur girl? Potential to make money that way?
I think anything with AVS is pretty much over, only so much you can out screw surfers, and now with the FTC and DOJ getting ready to prepare to build a credit card fraud type of charge related to age verification plus the fact that organized crime was involved with so called AVS its not something I would touch regardless how its set up.
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:49 PM   #63
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What's next? Why has the net become so boring?
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I think anything with AVS is pretty much over, only so much you can out screw surfers, and now with the FTC and DOJ getting ready to prepare to build a credit card fraud type of charge related to age verification plus the fact that organized crime was involved with so called AVS its not something I would touch regardless how its set up.
Ahh shit...hadn't heard about that.

Just the owners in trouble, or webmasters promoting have a chance at anything bad happening to them?
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:50 PM   #65
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Out of all the people that post here, what do you think are the top lets say 5 ways they make money, for example, would it be 1. domain/seo techniques, paysite creation, tgp, etc.?

How do they get those massive fucking houses, I mean the dude from bang bus, DOH, of course that thing is a cash cow of the highest order, what about the majority of the larger players here, what do you think are the main channels they generate income in?
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:54 PM   #66
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broadband based applications and entertainment, net is boring because everyday more and more surfers face facts for example

Once a guy figures out that most girls in AOL chatrooms are nasty they are done with it

Once you figure out that most 3 page tours lead to the same shit you are done with that

Once you figure out that AVS = bullshit ATOZ its over

See only so much surferes can be fucked with

I think it will be back to basics where surfers get what they expect.
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:56 PM   #67
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Ahh shit...hadn't heard about that.

Just the owners in trouble, or webmasters promoting have a chance at anything bad happening to them?
The day they decide to take the rico route I will invest in the company that sells handcuffs and jail cells
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The day they decide to take the rico route I will invest in the company that sells handcuffs and jail cells
I don't exactly get that..but you scared me non-the-less.
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Out of all the people that post here, what do you think are the top lets say 5 ways they make money, for example, would it be 1. domain/seo techniques, paysite creation, tgp, etc.?

How do they get those massive fucking houses, I mean the dude from bang bus, DOH, of course that thing is a cash cow of the highest order, what about the majority of the larger players here, what do you think are the main channels they generate income in?
honest real exclusive paysites, its a shame many people here dont relize that if you promote a honest paysite with real updates and true exclusive content the recurring will build up.

I mean I am looking into a site now that is for sale I met the guy in NY today, he has it open for 22 months he did weekly updates using content he had shot, he has over 23,000 recurring members I will mostlikly beinvolved in the purchase so I will annonce it then. At 23,000 at net avg. approx 14.80 a member after affiliate and billing thats almost $350,000 a month without counting new signups.

Recurring will be king and only honest real exclusive paysites will be winners at the end of the day, thats why myself and many others here are pooring real money into it.
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Thanks Chowda & EscortBiz again!


and thanks for jogging my memory of "Social Engineering"...I need to dig into that again...it's been too long, and that' story was exactly what I needed to hear...

I know this company has either bought or bankrupted a few of their competitors in the past, so now I guess the trick is to find one of those people that were involved in those other businesses and figure a way to dig out some info...

if I can discern their predatory plan in as much detail as possible I can replicate it on them, or quash it before they layout their rope...
Pick up the book "Art of deception" by Kevin Mitnick
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There is a trick to everything regardless the industry


Thanks Chowda & EscortBiz again!


and thanks for jogging my memory of "Social Engineering"...I need to dig into that again...it's been too long, and that story was exactly what I needed to hear...

I know this company has either bought or bankrupted a few of their competitors in the past, so now I guess the trick is to find one of those people that were involved in those other businesses and figure a way to dig out some info...

if I can discern their predatory plan in as much detail as possible I can replicate it on them, or quash it before they layout their rope...
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Man, thats a lot of frigging members, what type of money would that be worth, would it be worth 6 months worth of how much it makes a month, something similar? Would it be work 1mil, or more? Just wondering, thanks for your reply
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Man, thats a lot of frigging members, what type of money would that be worth, would it be worth 6 months worth of how much it makes a month, something similar? Would it be work 1mil, or more? Just wondering, thanks for your reply
in this case 12 months gross, but its a rare case where the site is really recurring becasuse members want it to recurr.

But every paysite sale is based on different things in order to come to a figure of how much its really worth
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