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Greg B · 09-16-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by theS2O

hey.??! shit! freakin web1000 is redirecting my fuckin site... argghh.. anyone knows a web host who i can pay without a credit card.. i'm still working on the card right now.. i dont like credit cards anyways but unfortunately.. i need it!

sorry about the redirections.. not my fault.. i dont even run for a affiliate site.. damn! argh

Dude, go to nearest Rite Aid and get a CC. It's like a debit card but good for certain stuff. They have MC and VISA. You can't buy porn on the web but I'm sure you can open an account with it and it'll be in good standing as long as you put money on it. It sucks but is a temp solution

Rocky · 09-16-2003, 11:35 AM

tootie · 09-16-2003, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluecrawl
i just got 4 emails from revenue sites, thanking me for my post. they have blacklisted you guys.

I somehow doubt this VERY seriously. You ripped off designers who did great work. Shut up scammer and

theS2O · 09-16-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg B

Dude, go to nearest Rite Aid and get a CC. It's like a debit card but good for certain stuff. They have MC and VISA. You can't buy porn on the web but I'm sure you can open an account with it and it'll be in good standing as long as you put money on it. It sucks but is a temp solution

Thanks.... I'll try to fix that prob ASAP! Web1000 is somehow a deciever... Lending their services for free but redirect most of your fuckin hits with their stuff... Wow! Dirty money that is!! tsk tsk tsk..

Twe Russ · 09-16-2003, 01:33 PM

Didn?t even want to waste my breath or bump this thread anymore
then it already is, but just to let everyone know how this pathetic
shit stain got very close to fucking with me and my company, but
very successful he was.

Let me just give you a heads up on how he tried to sob about being
ripped by many companies and was very uncomfortable with giving
our company 50% up front for the design work both parties agreed
on.

So i let him slide with a 20% deposit on the work he requested. That
was a simple search engine redesign job that we gave him
the best deal to meet his budget.

Our policy is simple; we give you up to 3 mock ups with completely
new approaches and the customer is free to choose one of them with
full access to any detailed modifications to one of the mock ups.

For a hot minute i was under the impression both parties where
satisfied with this agreement and we went forward with the design,
one of our guys put together an amazing front end layout
and instead of giving us any comments/criticism or anything of
that sort, he simply said send me back my money?!

Now let?s see, my sales/marketing director Oleg/OKNY spent over 4
hours discussing the many solutions we can provide for him,
along with an unlimited amount of consulting and resource direction
for his new venture to get him going as a friendly addition.

My only question is this: WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO A
DESIGN COMPANY IF NOTHING IN THEIR PORTFOLIO CAUGHT
YOUR EYE?

For all future happenings & design service companies. Be strict
with your rules, and if you come across a shit stain like this, then
do as I did, tell him to get on all four and lean over a bit more.

Oh and i almost forgot, This one is for you brother Andrew:

Jakke PNG · 09-16-2003, 01:37 PM

I usually scam people too. Add me to the list.

adultwebexperts · 09-16-2003, 03:19 PM

We joined this message board today in defense to aligations made by user: bluecrawl. One of our clients had informed me of our company being bashed on this board, so here I am.

I'll make it short...

Here's the first site layout for bluecrawl:

http://adultwebexperts.com/bluecrawl/old/

The redesign he wanted much simpler and based on white:

http://adultwebexperts.com/bluecrawl/

The girl in the logo,which is located on both layouts, was hand drawn by my illustrator.

after getting bad remarks on both layouts we knew this was a human being that will never be satisfied, even if we gave him the world. we tried working with him on improving the existing layouts, but he was set to see a brand new layout everytime. For all we knew he was collecting all these graphical interfaces for 1 low price, something we found not amusing. Although his instructions ("blue, eye catching, simple to the point, tidy, easy navigation") where met on both interfaces we created, he still seemed unsatisfied

we drop clients like this quick. Sure the deposit is kept, designers time is money. We don't work for free buddy

Our contract even states "deposit non-refundable".

lock · 09-16-2003, 03:23 PM

well as i suspected both excellent designs

Greg B · 09-16-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adultwebexperts
We joined this message board today in defense to aligations made by user: bluecrawl.

Dude, get an attorney and straighten it out. I'm sure you had his real name and real contact data when you agreed to work on his project.

adultwebexperts · 09-16-2003, 04:52 PM

greg b - the headache of going to court for such a small project is meaningless. plus we have many clients to handle, this one was dropped like a dead fly.

exocet · 09-16-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluecrawl
In all, I have been ripped off for over $2000. So I just wanna get it out there to people looking for designers, avoid this shit-fake-rip off designers.

cyberpod · 09-16-2003, 05:09 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by theS2O
[B]

hey.??! shit! freakin web1000 is redirecting my fuckin site... argghh.. anyone knows a web host who i can pay without a credit card.. i'm still working on the card right now.. i dont like credit cards anyways but unfortunately.. i need it!

Hey there... Gimme a shout at webmaster(at)velocityhosting.com and I'll give you some options regarding paying without a credit card... I am even up for bardering content and design work for hosting...

Thanks,
Cyberpod

h2ohjosh · 09-16-2003, 05:20 PM

Perhaps a couple of the design firms should get together here and build a black list

We haven't had any problems quite as severe as this though. Generally asking for 50% up front and then delivering as promised has worked out well.

Twe Russ · 09-16-2003, 05:59 PM

Cyberpod, if you need a virtual host shoot me an ICQ maybe i can
get you some free hosting in exchange for content.

If you need a dedicated box i can get you a sick deal, and top
notch support.

Lets all forget this shit stain ever exhisted, no need to stress over
some pathetic low life like him. Plenty of other good honest people
out there.

Twe Russ · 09-16-2003, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by h2ohjosh
Perhaps a couple of the design firms should get together here and build a black list We haven't had any problems quite as severe as this though. Generally asking for 50% up front and then delivering as promised has worked out well.

Your 100% correct, we should request a sticky Bad-Webmaster
thread with people to avoid, anything from design to development.

flashfire · 09-16-2003, 06:03 PM

This is what I hate about designing...you think we should give you a refund if you dont like the design, that is no way to operate a business...if I do work I'm getting paid....bottom line.

okny · 09-16-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfire
This is what I hate about designing...you think we should give you a refund if you dont like the design, that is no way to operate a business...if I do work I'm getting paid....bottom line.

I couldnt agree with you more.

CyberSan · 09-17-2003, 12:14 AM

Bitchmedia.com Statement:

I read this thread, and i think it´s quite obvious, what is going on here. We have heard both sites of the story, to make the picture complete, I just wanted to throw a screenshot of your work into discussion here, so you can see, what he is talking about.

Design by Bitchmedia

As far as I have seen, the quality of all layouts was good - maybe he should spent more time on a good briefing, defining, what exactly he is serching for, than posting lots of parallel threads on different boards.

Cheers,
CyberSan

CyberSan · 09-17-2003, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus

Hey - that´s cool - that´s my design in the background..

Who´s this guy?

Strange,
CyberSan

Twe Russ · 09-17-2003, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfire
This is what I hate about designing...you think we should give you a refund if you dont like the design, that is no way to operate a business...if I do work I'm getting paid....bottom line.

Your more than 100% right.

Like i said, there is no reason for the customer to go and order
design work from your company if something in your portfolio
didnt get his/hers attention.

If you didnt like your first, second or even third approach then
you are totally liable for that deposit, and the offer to work
with any of the three mock ups always remains on the table.

Who here thinks i am right and who thinks i am wrong?

Twe Russ · 09-17-2003, 07:10 AM

Everyone that wants this fuck face off the boards vote here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=175512

Fletch XXX · 09-17-2003, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberSan
Bitchmedia.com Statement:

I read this thread, and i think it´s quite obvious, what is going on here. We have heard both sites of the story, to make the picture complete, I just wanted to throw a screenshot of your work into discussion here, so you can see, what he is talking about.

Design by Bitchmedia

As far as I have seen, the quality of all layouts was good - maybe he should spent more time on a good briefing, defining, what exactly he is serching for, than posting lots of parallel threads on different boards.

Cheers,
CyberSan

Just to let you know.

When Blouecrawl came to me to do this design. He showed me your design and told me you ripped him off.

Said you did that design and afterwards he never heard from you and you wasted weeks of his time. He said you and your company ripped him off.

I love hearing the truth of the matter.

This guy is complete fucking scum and should NOT be allowed to do business here.

How many designers did he fuck over this one site?

20?

Thats a lot of money if you add it all up.

As far as am concerned he is a criminal. NO different than a guy who steals a car.

Whats worst some ass who steals a car thats worth 3k or some white collar criminal who steals 15k from a bunch of designers?

Fuck this crook.

Twe Russ · 09-17-2003, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Just to let you know.

When Blouecrawl came to me to do this design. He showed me your design and told me you ripped him off.

Said you did that design and afterwards he never heard from you and you wasted weeks of his time. He said you and your company ripped him off.

I love hearing the truth of the matter.

This guy is complete fucking scum and should NOT be allowed to do business here.

How many designers did he fuck over this one site?

20?

Thats a lot of money if you add it all up.

As far as am concerned he is a criminal. NO different than a guy who steals a car.

Whats worst some ass who steals a car thats worth 3k or some white collar criminal who steals 15k from a bunch of designers?

Fuck this crook.

Straight Cheez.: fuck em. 321GFY

bluecrawl · 09-18-2003, 08:55 AM

i apologise to bitch media, we are sorting things out hopefully. sory for dissin you, you have skill in design. i was just angry at all my money loss, and all the trust.

goBigtime · 09-18-2003, 09:32 AM

What about the other companies? You don't appologize to them? Maybe you could make an equal amount of threads appologizing to them as you did bashing them.

Anyway now that you're on FletchXXX's shitlist I guess its time for a name change....

I wonder if lil2picky4u is available

xtazy · 09-19-2003, 02:51 AM

BLUE CRAWL

I KNOW ONE OF THE SITES U GAVE.. ITS MY CLIENT...

PLS. LET ME KNOW YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ESPECIALL THE NUMBER 1....

HIT ME AT MY ICQ NOW 314104580

XTASY

harvey · 09-22-2003, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluecrawl
i apologise to bitch media, we are sorting things out hopefully. sory for dissin you, you have skill in design. i was just angry at all my money loss, and all the trust.

what money loss if evrybody is telling you don't pay a dime!

harvey · 09-22-2003, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xtazy
BLUE CRAWL

I KNOW ONE OF THE SITES U GAVE.. ITS MY CLIENT...

PLS. LET ME KNOW YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ESPECIALL THE NUMBER 1....

HIT ME AT MY ICQ NOW 314104580

XTASY

no kidding... the wonder boy of spam trying to steal businesses...

TurboTrucker · 09-23-2003, 01:03 AM

All the designs I saw looked really good. Thanks for helping to showcase some good designers bluecrawl

TheViper · 09-23-2003, 01:42 AM

it happens everywhere, get used to it.

Neriah Davis · 09-23-2003, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TurboTrucker
All the designs I saw looked really good. Thanks for helping to showcase some good designers bluecrawl

Yeah...what started out ugly actually turned out real positive IMHO
It also showed the character of the companies involved...hardworking, honest people looking out for eachother...gotta love that

{fusion} · 09-23-2003, 03:20 AM

i looked at all those links and them companies all look top notch with a nice portfolio to boot.

TurboAngel · 09-23-2003, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Oh I get it now.

This is the guy who hits up designers gives them sob stories about getting ripped off, gets free work and then never talks to the designer again.

I did a free design for this guy to try and help him out and fix this mess. I turned over the design and never heard from him. Lucky it was just a screenshot and a mock up of what he already had since i was trying to fix this mess he is in.

Funny how they always knock designers but when they shit all over an honest one they dont care.

That's not cool I know you are good at what you do!

scorpy · 09-23-2003, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adultwebexperts
We joined this message board today in defense to aligations made by user: bluecrawl. One of our clients had informed me of our company being bashed on this board, so here I am.

I'll make it short...

Here's the first site layout for bluecrawl:

http://adultwebexperts.com/bluecrawl/old/

The redesign he wanted much simpler and based on white:

http://adultwebexperts.com/bluecrawl/

The girl in the logo,which is located on both layouts, was hand drawn by my illustrator.

after getting bad remarks on both layouts we knew this was a human being that will never be satisfied, even if we gave him the world. we tried working with him on improving the existing layouts, but he was set to see a brand new layout everytime. For all we knew he was collecting all these graphical interfaces for 1 low price, something we found not amusing. Although his instructions ("blue, eye catching, simple to the point, tidy, easy navigation") where met on both interfaces we created, he still seemed unsatisfied we drop clients like this quick. Sure the deposit is kept, designers time is money. We don't work for free buddy Our contract even states "deposit non-refundable".

I'm totally with you on that one. I got a client 2 weeks ago asking me for a design and asking me if i would reimburse him if he didn't like it. I don't know why i said yes but i did... i make the splash page, "excellent" is what he said and tells me to go on with the tour page and join page... which i did... suddenly, after everything being done, i get a message from him saying his partners don't like it and blah blah blah he wants his money back! who the fuck do they think we are? no brain monkeys!?

TurboAngel · 09-23-2003, 06:21 AM

I'm glad my b/f isn't doing design work now!

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Twe Russ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 3,493	Didn?t even want to waste my breath or bump this thread anymore then it already is, but just to let everyone know how this pathetic shit stain got very close to fucking with me and my company, but very successful he was. Let me just give you a heads up on how he tried to sob about being ripped by many companies and was very uncomfortable with giving our company 50% up front for the design work both parties agreed on. So i let him slide with a 20% deposit on the work he requested. That was a simple search engine redesign job that we gave him the best deal to meet his budget. Our policy is simple; we give you up to 3 mock ups with completely new approaches and the customer is free to choose one of them with full access to any detailed modifications to one of the mock ups. For a hot minute i was under the impression both parties where satisfied with this agreement and we went forward with the design, one of our guys put together an amazing front end layout and instead of giving us any comments/criticism or anything of that sort, he simply said send me back my money?! Now let?s see, my sales/marketing director Oleg/OKNY spent over 4 hours discussing the many solutions we can provide for him, along with an unlimited amount of consulting and resource direction for his new venture to get him going as a friendly addition. My only question is this: WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO TO A DESIGN COMPANY IF NOTHING IN THEIR PORTFOLIO CAUGHT YOUR EYE? For all future happenings & design service companies. Be strict with your rules, and if you come across a shit stain like this, then do as I did, tell him to get on all four and lean over a bit more. Oh and i almost forgot, This one is for you brother Andrew: __________________ Contact information - ICQ: 7.9.0.3.0.0 · AIM: no roach · E-Mail: roachito \|\| @ \|\| gmail \|\| . \|\| com [Friend Finder - Geo Targeting & Incredible Site Ratio] - [Credit Card Traffic - Make $65 Per Join]

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09-16-2003, 03:23 PM	#58
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09-16-2003, 03:19 PM	#57
adultwebexperts Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 21	We joined this message board today in defense to aligations made by user: bluecrawl. One of our clients had informed me of our company being bashed on this board, so here I am. I'll make it short... Here's the first site layout for bluecrawl: http://adultwebexperts.com/bluecrawl/old/ The redesign he wanted much simpler and based on white: http://adultwebexperts.com/bluecrawl/ The girl in the logo,which is located on both layouts, was hand drawn by my illustrator. after getting bad remarks on both layouts we knew this was a human being that will never be satisfied, even if we gave him the world. we tried working with him on improving the existing layouts, but he was set to see a brand new layout everytime. For all we knew he was collecting all these graphical interfaces for 1 low price, something we found not amusing. Although his instructions ("blue, eye catching, simple to the point, tidy, easy navigation") where met on both interfaces we created, he still seemed unsatisfied we drop clients like this quick. Sure the deposit is kept, designers time is money. We don't work for free buddy Our contract even states "deposit non-refundable".

09-16-2003, 04:52 PM	#60
adultwebexperts Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 21	greg b - the headache of going to court for such a small project is meaningless. plus we have many clients to handle, this one was dropped like a dead fly.

09-16-2003, 05:20 PM	#63
h2ohjosh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Delray Beach, FL Posts: 43	Perhaps a couple of the design firms should get together here and build a black list We haven't had any problems quite as severe as this though. Generally asking for 50% up front and then delivering as promised has worked out well. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	This is what I hate about designing...you think we should give you a refund if you dont like the design, that is no way to operate a business...if I do work I'm getting paid....bottom line.

09-17-2003, 12:14 AM	#68
CyberSan Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 360	Bitchmedia.com Statement: I read this thread, and i think it´s quite obvious, what is going on here. We have heard both sites of the story, to make the picture complete, I just wanted to throw a screenshot of your work into discussion here, so you can see, what he is talking about. Design by Bitchmedia As far as I have seen, the quality of all layouts was good - maybe he should spent more time on a good briefing, defining, what exactly he is serching for, than posting lots of parallel threads on different boards. Cheers, CyberSan

09-17-2003, 07:10 AM	#71
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09-18-2003, 08:55 AM	#74
bluecrawl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 21	i apologise to bitch media, we are sorting things out hopefully. sory for dissin you, you have skill in design. i was just angry at all my money loss, and all the trust.

09-18-2003, 09:32 AM	#75
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	What about the other companies? You don't appologize to them? Maybe you could make an equal amount of threads appologizing to them as you did bashing them. Anyway now that you're on FletchXXX's shitlist I guess its time for a name change.... I wonder if lil2picky4u is available

09-19-2003, 02:51 AM	#76
xtazy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27	BLUE CRAWL I KNOW ONE OF THE SITES U GAVE.. ITS MY CLIENT... PLS. LET ME KNOW YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ESPECIALL THE NUMBER 1.... HIT ME AT MY ICQ NOW 314104580 XTASY

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09-23-2003, 01:42 AM	#80
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09-23-2003, 03:20 AM	#82
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	i looked at all those links and them companies all look top notch with a nice portfolio to boot.

09-23-2003, 06:21 AM	#85
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	I'm glad my b/f isn't doing design work now!