Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004 is out! - GoFuckYourself.com

dnsmonster · 09-15-2003, 08:34 PM

I am actually excited. Writing PHP and XML/XLT code has just gotten even easier.

Dreamweaver MX 2004

Theo · 09-15-2003, 08:37 PM

great,where's the crack please?

4Pics · 09-15-2003, 08:38 PM

sounds good

Madball · 09-15-2003, 08:39 PM

You need the fixed crack from Paradox. The first crack doesn't work, produces stupid JS errors.

dnsmonster · 09-15-2003, 08:41 PM

A bunch of theving motherfuckers.

Theo · 09-15-2003, 08:43 PM

i second that

Juicy D. Links · 09-15-2003, 08:44 PM

whats different than mx, i dont want to get it if its just minimal changes

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 08:46 PM

I'm amazed by the number of people that use Dreamweaver. Being in this business, HTML should be a REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE. You people get more and more lazy I swear.

beemk · 09-15-2003, 08:47 PM

someone hook me up with the warez

beemk · 09-15-2003, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I'm amazed by the number of people that use Dreamweaver. Being in this business, HTML should be a REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE. You people get more and more lazy I swear.

yeah im gonna spend all that time typing shit out in notepad when i can save time by clicking buttons. have you heard of something called efficiency?

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by beemk

yeah im gonna spend all that time typing shit out in notepad when i can save time by clicking buttons. have you heard of something called efficiency?

Effeciency is writing code that can be used over and over..

the indigo · 09-15-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I'm amazed by the number of people that use Dreamweaver. Being in this business, HTML should be a REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE. You people get more and more lazy I swear.

Wtf, the interesting shit are the RESULTS. Not the fucking way you build your pages.

dnsmonster · 09-15-2003, 09:02 PM

I use DW mostly to write code by hand, it has a quality code editor. I do use various CSS wizards whenever possible, why type the exact shit that DW can type for you?

dirtyone · 09-15-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I'm amazed by the number of people that use Dreamweaver. Being in this business, HTML should be a REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE. You people get more and more lazy I swear.

REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE?

What are you the HTML Police?

Halcyon · 09-15-2003, 09:04 PM

Since when does using an editor mean you don't know markup?

But, I'll admit, Dreamweaver has made me a little lazy.

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by dirtyone

REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE?

What are you the HTML Police?

Maybe I should be.

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo

Wtf, the interesting shit are the RESULTS. Not the fucking way you build your pages.

So a jumbled up blob of HTML that works in 1 browser is what you call results?

Matt_WildCash · 09-15-2003, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I'm amazed by the number of people that use Dreamweaver. Being in this business, HTML should be a REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE. You people get more and more lazy I swear.

Eh you can go make your websites using notepad and html and in the time you spend making yours i'll make 5 sites in dreamweaver. I really don't see any use for fully coded html pages unless its for a highly complicated site with complicated tables and other stuff. Dreamweaver can handle everything else.

Can't wait to get my hands on the new version & yes I do know markup as well just haven't needed it much lately, but it always does come in handy.

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Driven

Eh you can go make your websites using notepad and html and in the time you spend making yours i'll make 5 sites in dreamweaver. I really don't see any use for fully coded html pages unless its for a highly complicated site with complicated tables and other stuff. Dreamweaver can handle everything else.

Can't wait to get my hands on the new version

I don't know.. I can type pretty fast

Theo · 09-15-2003, 09:10 PM

hahahaha

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 09:12 PM

Sorry guys, i'm a programmer and I really can't stand the CRAP that dreamweaver spits out. Someone here uses it

foolio · 09-15-2003, 09:12 PM

whats new in it? Anythign worthwhile?

Matt_WildCash · 09-15-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt

I don't know.. I can type pretty fast

LOL

dirtyone · 09-15-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
Sorry guys, i'm a programmer and I really can't stand the CRAP that dreamweaver spits out. Someone here uses it

It's ok.. most programers I know are a little anal anyway.

NBDesign · 09-15-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Sorry guys, i'm a programmer and I really can't stand the CRAP that dreamweaver spits out. Someone here uses it

Yea... so... I'm a programmer too and Dreamweaver works very well with my programs...

Try again.

Hooper · 09-15-2003, 09:35 PM

Yeah, i program too. Dreamweaver spits out nicely formatted w3c compliant html/xhtml/xml. Hand coding is great if it's what you like, but dont bag on people who like wysiwyg tools.

After all...If I am using VC++ i dont open up the resource files and define buttons just cause i *can*.. I use the graphical tools provided to me because it makes my life easier and spits out code that is equally functional but in less time.

I find it phenomenally difficult to believe that you could do nested tables with varying borders, cell paddings and widths, some with multiple colspans at the same speed that I could do the same thing graphically in dw.

And pay for it you pathetic fucks. Jeez.

JDog · 09-15-2003, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I'm amazed by the number of people that use Dreamweaver. Being in this business, HTML should be a REQUIRED KNOWLEDGE. You people get more and more lazy I swear.

Dude, why would I wanna handwrite HTML, I already handwrite PHP, I don't really feel like doing HTML too! Common, that's just a waste of time

jDoG

lEricPl · 09-15-2003, 09:44 PM

I have been using the 30 day trial since MX 2004 was released.

It's very bloated IMHO....Slower than Regular Dreamweaver MX...not that many added features that I would use often AND it crashed the last time I had it open.

I stopped using it tonight.

Regular Dreamweaver MX is lightening fast compared to MX 2004.

I'm not upgrading.

Oh, STFU about the hand coding shit. This isn't the 90's ya know.

galleryseek · 09-15-2003, 09:50 PM

handcoding from scratch is indeed a waste of time. i use DW to make the rough draft, and revise the html and incorperate css... writing it from scratch takes quite a bit longer.

JSA Matt · 09-15-2003, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign

Yea... so... I'm a programmer too and Dreamweaver works very well with my programs...

Try again.

Why am I laughing

besterman · 09-15-2003, 10:23 PM

does anybody know if you have to uninstall mx 6.0 to install mx 2004 or it overwrites it? Seems I've ended up with 2 copies!

Ice · 09-15-2003, 10:48 PM

Nothing wrong with knowing html code inside and out. I have used Homesite for years now...and still use it for 90% of what I do. I use Dreamweaver for the other 10%. Nothing beats knowing the basics of html..... should be standard for webmasters.

OriginalBucksDave · 09-15-2003, 11:01 PM

If you hate WYSIWYG html editors cause of all the extra crap they add to the page (me too), but you'd like the convenience of clicking on a button to add HTML code, check out this program:

http://www.notetab.com/

I hire professional web designers to do my sites, but when I want to edit the HTML code to make minor changes, I use Note Tab Pro.

It makes it easy to "hand code" your web pages without the bloat added by the WYSIWYG programs.

lEricPl · 09-15-2003, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by iceicebaby
Nothing wrong with knowing html code inside and out. I have used Homesite for years now...and still use it for 90% of what I do. I use Dreamweaver for the other 10%. Nothing beats knowing the basics of html..... should be standard for webmasters.

Using Dreamweaver does not mean that you don't know HTML.

HTML is not hard to learn.

Dreamweaver is for speed.

Mr.Fiction · 09-15-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by lEricPl
I have been using the 30 day trial since MX 2004 was released.

It's very bloated IMHO....Slower than Regular Dreamweaver MX...not that many added features that I would use often AND it crashed the last time I had it open.

I stopped using it tonight.

Regular Dreamweaver MX is lightening fast compared to MX 2004.

I'm not upgrading.

Oh, STFU about the hand coding shit. This isn't the 90's ya know.

Thanks for making the one post worth reading on this thread.

Anyone else have anything to say about the program?

09-15-2003, 08:34 PM	#1
dnsmonster Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A warm place. Posts: 634	Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004 is out! I am actually excited. Writing PHP and XML/XLT code has just gotten even easier. Dreamweaver MX 2004 __________________ I couldn't possibly know what I'm talking about, I'm completely, absolutely and definitively out of my fucking mind.

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dnsmonster Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A warm place. Posts: 634	A bunch of theving motherfuckers. __________________ I couldn't possibly know what I'm talking about, I'm completely, absolutely and definitively out of my fucking mind.

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dnsmonster Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A warm place. Posts: 634	I use DW mostly to write code by hand, it has a quality code editor. I do use various CSS wizards whenever possible, why type the exact shit that DW can type for you? __________________ I couldn't possibly know what I'm talking about, I'm completely, absolutely and definitively out of my fucking mind.

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	great,where's the crack please?

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4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	sounds good

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Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	You need the fixed crack from Paradox. The first crack doesn't work, produces stupid JS errors.

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i second that

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	whats different than mx, i dont want to get it if its just minimal changes

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	hahahaha

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JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Sorry guys, i'm a programmer and I really can't stand the CRAP that dreamweaver spits out. Someone here uses it

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09-15-2003, 09:35 PM	#26
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	Yeah, i program too. Dreamweaver spits out nicely formatted w3c compliant html/xhtml/xml. Hand coding is great if it's what you like, but dont bag on people who like wysiwyg tools. After all...If I am using VC++ i dont open up the resource files and define buttons just cause i can.. I use the graphical tools provided to me because it makes my life easier and spits out code that is equally functional but in less time. I find it phenomenally difficult to believe that you could do nested tables with varying borders, cell paddings and widths, some with multiple colspans at the same speed that I could do the same thing graphically in dw. And pay for it you pathetic fucks. Jeez. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

09-15-2003, 09:44 PM	#28
lEricPl Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,062	I have been using the 30 day trial since MX 2004 was released. It's very bloated IMHO....Slower than Regular Dreamweaver MX...not that many added features that I would use often AND it crashed the last time I had it open. I stopped using it tonight. Regular Dreamweaver MX is lightening fast compared to MX 2004. I'm not upgrading. Oh, STFU about the hand coding shit. This isn't the 90's ya know.

09-15-2003, 09:50 PM	#29
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	handcoding from scratch is indeed a waste of time. i use DW to make the rough draft, and revise the html and incorperate css... writing it from scratch takes quite a bit longer.

09-15-2003, 10:23 PM	#31
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	does anybody know if you have to uninstall mx 6.0 to install mx 2004 or it overwrites it? Seems I've ended up with 2 copies!

09-15-2003, 10:48 PM	#32
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	Nothing wrong with knowing html code inside and out. I have used Homesite for years now...and still use it for 90% of what I do. I use Dreamweaver for the other 10%. Nothing beats knowing the basics of html..... should be standard for webmasters. __________________ icq 1904905

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