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prostock · 09-15-2003, 12:05 PM

man i been talkng to a few people on opt emails , and before we paid for any thing we wanted to do a test , gee if this is for real and it a real opt list and is so good i would think they would do it , i even said , look do this sign up for our 50 50 program and do the test there and if it is so good you will get paid back and then i will see it and buy .
First it is a FLAT OUT we do nothing for free , and then it was have to talk to the boss ...

then i talked to another guy at the same time and he is more then welling to do it , and i will be the first to say if his stuff is true and good i will post it for all to see .

Man we done paid out 5k on a opt in and was all shit , and i know i am not the olny to have this , so why is it so hard for these guys to be willing to work with people to prove they are not like the rest , shit i ever told him sign up to the 5050 program and if it shows i will for sure buy and he just doesnt get it !

and one last thing why will they not even give a person any kind of REFs to talk to , to see they are for real ?

detoxed · 09-15-2003, 12:06 PM

You know how many people ask for free tests from everyone offering emails and never buy a single list?

prostock · 09-15-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
You know how many people ask for free tests from everyone offering emails and never buy a single list?

Detoxed , i do and can fully understand that trust me , this is why i said look for the test do 1000k and then told the guy i ment 1k ether way i told him to sign up for our 50 50 program and send that small amount and if i not get nailed from spam cop or see people are going to the site we will get . So i think that is more then far , we own the sites so we can say a yes or no to the emails going there .
So i do not think we was tring to fuck any one , we have been fucked many times just as many others here have , and again this is why i said sign up to the program and we both can track the stuff being sent .

And trust me i have the wire info for the ones that did fuck us to show we buy what we say ! They just didnt give what they say !
If i see him here selling again i will let people know what he really sells

detoxed · 09-15-2003, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by prostock

Detoxed , i do and can fully understand that trust me , this is why i said look for the test do 1000k and then told the guy i ment 1k ether way i told him to sign up for our 50 50 program and send that small amount and if i not get nailed from spam cop or see people are going to the site we will get . So i think that is more then far , we own the sites so we can say a yes or no to the emails going there .
So i do not think we was tring to fuck any one , we have been fucked many times just as many others here have , and again this is why i said sign up to the program and we both can track the stuff being sent .

Yeah, but people selling quality email lists dont have to do it on your terms. The people selling quality lists sell them on their terms.

Rich · 09-15-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
You know how many people ask for free tests from everyone offering emails and never buy a single list?

Exactly. You're bitching because people won't give you a mailing for free or send traffic to your 50/50 program? lol, this is the stupidest thread ever. Good opt in mailers have people lined up around the block to buy their traffic/email lists, what the fuck makes you think they should go out of their way for you?

Retard.

detoxed · 09-15-2003, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

Exactly. You're bitching because people won't give you a mailing for free or send traffic to your 50/50 program? lol, this is the stupidest thread ever. Good opt in mailers have people lined up around the block to buy their traffic/email lists, what the fuck makes you think they should go out of their way for you?

Retard.

You dont usually agree with me

prostock · 09-15-2003, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

Exactly. You're bitching because people won't give you a mailing for free or send traffic to your 50/50 program? lol, this is the stupidest thread ever. Good opt in mailers have people lined up around the block to buy their traffic/email lists, what the fuck makes you think they should go out of their way for you?

Retard.

well gee RICH then you just hit the fucking nail on the head LOL and you said it not me THE GUY JUST HAS one person that has bought from him
SO NOW WHO IS THE RETARD ! and i would think that any one that has them at the door lined up wouldnt need to ICQ ME TO SELL TO ME for they have so much they not need any more sales , and if i ask do you have a REF to se this is real they give it !
and again what said it is good or bad , and again jack ass i said to send a small amount and if it is real and itsnt shit we will buy so reread TARD !

and it has nothing to do with to do with going out of there way ,
what it has to do with is over getting fucked , and that is buy people that say there shit is so good or opt or there trafic so again lets not go there , more and more people here are getting fucked by these guys we all know it !

Tytan · 09-15-2003, 12:46 PM

People who sell opt-in lists have at least 2/3 people who buy constantly. I know someone in here who makes $250k yearly selling opt-in lists. This guy doesn't pay any tax what-so-ever & gets cash daily.

Most of the big players in the industry will invest money buying opt-in lists, trust me I know.

detoxed · 09-15-2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by prostock

well gee RICH then you just hit the fucking nail on the head LOL and you said it not me THE GUY JUST HAS one person that has bought from him
SO NOW WHO IS THE RETARD ! and i would think that any one that has them at the door lined up wouldnt need to ICQ ME TO SELL TO ME for they have so much they not need any more sales , and if i ask do you have a REF to se this is real they give it !
and again what said it is good or bad , and again jack ass i said to send a small amount and if it is real and itsnt shit we will buy so reread TARD !

beemk · 09-15-2003, 12:50 PM

if you dont like it dont do business with them

Daymare · 09-15-2003, 12:51 PM

prostock · 09-15-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Tytan
People who sell opt-in lists have at least 2/3 people who buy constantly. I know someone in here who makes $250k yearly selling opt-in lists. This guy doesn't pay any tax what-so-ever & gets cash daily.

Most of the big players in the industry will invest money buying opt-in lists, trust me I know.

I am sure of it and dont dout it , tho when a person icq me over it , and I ask to do a test and they FLAT so no and then I ask ok so then you have a ref they say they just sell to one person , and i did find out it is from a dating site a adult one , and I myself am not to sure that is good or bad , so then I said ok so then you are so sure of it to be so great then if it is shit I get a rufund LOL like that would ever happen he had nothing to say .
Maybe I wouldnt be this way but the last person we spent 5k with and it was all shit , and wasnt a OPT as they said 40% of them raised hell to the host or the spam cop !
So this is why I am that way

detoxed · 09-15-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by prostock

I am sure of it and dont dout it , tho when a person icq me over it , and I ask to do a test and they FLAT so no and then I ask ok so then you have a ref they say they just sell to one person , and i did find out it is from a dating site a adult one , and I myself am not to sure that is good or bad , so then I said ok so then you are so sure of it to be so great then if it is shit I get a rufund LOL like that would ever happen he had nothing to say .
Maybe I wouldnt be this way but the last person we spent 5k with and it was all shit , and wasnt a OPT as they said 40% of them raised hell to the host or the spam cop !
So this is why I am that way

I'm sure you arent leaving any important information out

qwe · 09-15-2003, 01:03 PM

First of all there are VERY little quantity of people who sell decent lists, those people are not stupid and they rather send it themselves then to sell it, including me, there's no way to sell it for $2k if you can pull $5-10k in few mailings. Many people claim they got opt-in but almost 99% of them bullshit. Just my

Also it's not a true opt-in if you don't know the niche it's for.. You can buy awsome list (opt-in) but you send it to webcam program and will have shitty ratio compare to sending it to paysites with specific niche..

prostock · 09-15-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by qwe
First of all there are VERY little quantity of people who sell decent lists, those people are not stupid and they rather send it themselves then to sell it, including me, there's no way to sell it for $2k if you can pull $5-10k in few mailings. Many people claim they got opt-in but almost 99% of them bullshit. Just my

Also it's not a true opt-in if you don't know the niche it's for.. You can buy awsome list (opt-in) but you send it to webcam program and will have shitty ratio compare to sending it to paysites with specific niche..

great things there said , and this is what I was getting at , and no Refs well that is why I was this way .
Ether way I have a guy that will do a test , seems to be good guy to talk to and has it for the areas I need it from . So I will keep all posted thanks
Jim

tootie · 09-15-2003, 01:30 PM

I paid for an opt in mailing once and got NO sales from it. It cost me something like $279 and I made no money at all. I sent the traffic to a site that I KNOW does EXTREMELY well with mailers traffic (consistently) yet I got no signups and I didn't even see any increase in hits. I had to ask the guy if the mailing ever even went out and he CLAIMED it did, but I doubt it. If it did, it was the shittiest list EVER.

I will never buy mailer traffic again without some sort of proof of quality, and that's just the way it is. If they aren't willing to provide me with a test or if I haven't been referred to them by someone I trust, then I will never buy again. It's just not worth the hassle. They may be legit, and it may be my loss, but it's just not worth taking the risk.

prostock · 09-15-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
I paid for an opt in mailing once and got NO sales from it. It cost me something like $279 and I made no money at all. I sent the traffic to a site that I KNOW does EXTREMELY well with mailers traffic (consistently) yet I got no signups and I didn't even see any increase in hits. I had to ask the guy if the mailing ever even went out and he CLAIMED it did, but I doubt it. If it did, it was the shittiest list EVER.

I will never buy mailer traffic again without some sort of proof of quality, and that's just the way it is. If they aren't willing to provide me with a test or if I haven't been referred to them by someone I trust, then I will never buy again. It's just not worth the hassle. They may be legit, and it may be my loss, but it's just not worth taking the risk.

this was 100% my point and the same shit happen to me
and again this is why we ask to send to the 50 50 program , so that if it was good , he will even get some cash back for his time for the test then i will know it is good and we will buy , , i mean really it not like i would have got rich off of the 1k he sends but i damn sure see if any hits came or was at all worth tring to be a large amount to try, I to am over people selling shit and giving cash away !

09-15-2003, 12:05 PM	#1
prostock On probation Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: not telling you , the exwife might find me Posts: 4,160	why are most , not all but most jack ass when it come to them selling opt mailing man i been talkng to a few people on opt emails , and before we paid for any thing we wanted to do a test , gee if this is for real and it a real opt list and is so good i would think they would do it , i even said , look do this sign up for our 50 50 program and do the test there and if it is so good you will get paid back and then i will see it and buy . First it is a FLAT OUT we do nothing for free , and then it was have to talk to the boss ... then i talked to another guy at the same time and he is more then welling to do it , and i will be the first to say if his stuff is true and good i will post it for all to see . Man we done paid out 5k on a opt in and was all shit , and i know i am not the olny to have this , so why is it so hard for these guys to be willing to work with people to prove they are not like the rest , shit i ever told him sign up to the 5050 program and if it shows i will for sure buy and he just doesnt get it ! and one last thing why will they not even give a person any kind of REFs to talk to , to see they are for real ? __________________ ICQ # :158519717

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qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	First of all there are VERY little quantity of people who sell decent lists, those people are not stupid and they rather send it themselves then to sell it, including me, there's no way to sell it for $2k if you can pull $5-10k in few mailings. Many people claim they got opt-in but almost 99% of them bullshit. Just my Also it's not a true opt-in if you don't know the niche it's for.. You can buy awsome list (opt-in) but you send it to webcam program and will have shitty ratio compare to sending it to paysites with specific niche.. Last edited by qwe; 09-15-2003 at 01:09 PM..

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tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	I paid for an opt in mailing once and got NO sales from it. It cost me something like $279 and I made no money at all. I sent the traffic to a site that I KNOW does EXTREMELY well with mailers traffic (consistently) yet I got no signups and I didn't even see any increase in hits. I had to ask the guy if the mailing ever even went out and he CLAIMED it did, but I doubt it. If it did, it was the shittiest list EVER. I will never buy mailer traffic again without some sort of proof of quality, and that's just the way it is. If they aren't willing to provide me with a test or if I haven't been referred to them by someone I trust, then I will never buy again. It's just not worth the hassle. They may be legit, and it may be my loss, but it's just not worth taking the risk. __________________

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