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Old 09-15-2003, 06:45 AM   #1
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paysites that rebill at 49.95

hey what paysites are still rebilling at $49.95?
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:24 AM   #2
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Im not sure, but no paysite is worth 49.99 to begin with much less rebilling.
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:43 AM   #3
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$49.99, rebills, no problem.
Getting $49.99 rebills to stay around for 11 months, wonderful.
Losing your account on the basis of a 27% CB rate, priceless!!
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:46 AM   #4
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$49.99 is just asking for chargebacks... why do you want to know anyway?
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:49 AM   #5
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$49.99 is just asking for chargebacks... why do you want to know anyway?
and what about $39.99?

isn't that what lightspeed charge?

retention? I doubt it ...
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:50 AM   #6
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:02 AM   #7
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goodluck scoring a signup with them...
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:18 AM   #8
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All of Fantasyman's sites rebill at 49.95 a month.

In my experience the trial conversions are just plain horrible.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:18 AM   #9
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It would work if EVERYONE increased their prices. Surfers would have no choice. They'd still buy.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:20 AM   #10
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:48 AM   #11
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It would work if EVERYONE increased their prices. Surfers would have no choice. They'd still buy.
... u wish man

ever heard of OPEC? ever seen how much each say they'll produce and how much they actually will produce?

if everyone did raise it to 50bux a pop, 2 things will happen

1)increase in kazaa and other free porn related items
2)ppl would offer it lower just to saturate the market, just to make another option.


learn the economics of it man.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:48 AM   #12
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goodluck scoring a signup with them...
i used to use them a while back they converted ok
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:49 AM   #13
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$49.99, rebills, no problem.
Getting $49.99 rebills to stay around for 11 months, wonderful.
Losing your account on the basis of a 27% CB rate, priceless!!
lol
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:59 AM   #14
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if everyone did raise it to 50bux a pop, 2 things will happen
1)increase in kazaa and other free porn related items
2)ppl would offer it lower just to saturate the market, just to make another option.
Totally Disagree with your Point #1 - There is already so much free stuff available - just look around - and surfers STILL buy memberships. That is a fact. Free stuff available or not. I've started my pay sites back in 97 at $14.95 and increased it along with the majority of the other sites. Currently, at $34.95 and going stronger than ever. (Even though there is more free stuff available than before.)

Point 2 is not relevant because I said " IF EVERYONE DID"
(I even capitalized the word)
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:11 AM   #15
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surfers only buy their selected porn site because they cant get it for free right?

how long do you think it will take before surfers get educated and learn that there are free sites with no rebills that cater to his needs? and file sharing programs like kazaa.. you think thats likely going to decrease? maybe if they shut it down. but u know very well that another will take its place.

and #2, everybody? very utopian. so unless u can create, manager a cartel with anyone who owns a paysite... its not likely going to happen.
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:16 AM   #16
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Yes, it is a utopion type thought. Didn't say it "would" happen.
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:19 AM   #17
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surfers only buy their selected porn site because they cant get it for free right?

how long do you think it will take before surfers get educated and learn that there are free sites with no rebills that cater to his needs? and file sharing programs like kazaa.. you think thats likely going to decrease? maybe if they shut it down. but u know very well that another will take its place.

and #2, everybody? very utopian. so unless u can create, manager a cartel with anyone who owns a paysite... its not likely going to happen.
100% exclusive content is where it's at.

Generic porn is so last year.
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:21 AM   #18
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100% exclusive content is where it's at.

Generic porn is so last year.
yeah.. but it comes a point.. small point.

like brunob. his stuff is on kazaa now..

but at that point, youve made hundreds of thousands of bills.
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:25 AM   #19
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yeah.. but it comes a point.. small point.

like brunob. his stuff is on kazaa now..

but at that point, youve made hundreds of thousands of bills.
constant updates are important of course

and kazaa only has a small proportion of the porn in a site

a lot of people just want convenience of access - not downloading videos at 2kbs

As an example - there's about 200MB of videos from ideepthroat.com on kazaa

but the site itself probably has at least 2GB.
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:35 AM   #20
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well personally. i would have bought a pass from deluxepass already if it wasnt for sites like xxxmoviemart and kazaaa p2p.
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:41 AM   #21
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i notice a typo, for the Japer Teens site
theirs a
3 day trial
1 week trial
1 year trial

But if you read the fine print it says:
The 3 day trial and 2 week trial renew at our monthly rate of 49.95 unless you cancel befor the end of the trial peorod.
BLA BLA BLA

I dont see no sign up forf any 2 week trials: just
3 day trial
1 week trial
1 year trial

Customers do read this shit. So always proof read befor you go live with any pay site you may have...

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Old 09-15-2003, 09:51 AM   #22
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This site is absolutely discusting, but it rebills at 49.95 and it converts quite well. What is astonishing: the content is of real bad quality!
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:52 AM   #23
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This site is absolutely discusting, but it rebills at 49.95 and it converts quite well. What is astonishing: the content is of real bad quality!
do a search for that site here

a lot of comments are not positive at all
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Old 09-15-2003, 10:25 AM   #24
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I may be wrong, but my understanding is visa is not happy with 39.99 rebills and are looking to get everyone to 29.95 or under -


We only charge 19.95 for several gigs of totally unique content and we add about 100mbs a week -

Although our rebills match the best sites out there, there is absolutely no way you can stop surfers who join by trial, and then cancel BEFORE they enter the members area -

A conversation with a leading programme owner two days ago confirmed this early cancellation figure is easilly 50% -

This figure is very high - Probably a result of joining for X and finding Z on the credit card - I don't know - Just my theory.

Even tho we have a few each week write and say they made a mistake in cancelling and would like rebilling instead - It still shows that we, as an industry, have a lot to get right.
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