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The first: You started with we were attacked on 9/11. And we most definitely were. Why in the heck then didn't we go AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT ATTACKED US! It wasn't Saddam Hussein. It was Osama bin Laden and his henchmen! Somewhere along the line Bush goes "Yeah, Bin Laden attacked us..but I really hate that Saddam guy, and we KNOW where HE is, so let's blow the fuck out of his country!" And we did! But it did NOTHING..absoutely NOTHING at all to get us closer to getting the fuckers that attacked us on 9/11. It did NOTHING to make this country safer from attacks by Al-Qaeda. The second thing that's evident in your post is that you like to play the "What if" game. What IF Saddam bought a nuke from North Korea and gave it to Al-Qaeda? That's just LAME! What's to stop North Korea then from just giving it DIRECTLY to Al-Qaeda? Why use Saddam as a middle man. Not to mention Hussein and Bin Laden HATE each other! One is secular, one is not! Your whole case for attacking Iraq does NOT improve our security against terrorism and does not get us any closer to finding Osama Bin Laden. Yet all the pro-war people won't even talk about how we've all but given up the search for Bin Laden. |
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You were not alive then, so you do not know WTF you are talking about. Try limiting your discussions to things you have some knowledge of. |
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Talk about running your mouth..that's all you EVER talk about. |
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The bottom line for me is that for all the things the Pro-war group has talked about, "Hussein was a bad man", "Strategic positioning", "Hussein could have used wmds", no where do you ever definitively point out how this war knocked out the terrorist network of Osama Bin Laden and the people that attacked the United States on 9/11/01!
So until you do, please do not use the line about how much safer the United States is today from terrorism because we attacked Iraq. |
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How doest the war in Iraq have anything to do with 9/11? That was Bin Ladden and he is still alive and free... and might I point out.... NOT living in Iraq. The Iraq war was for god knows what reason.. Your Wonderful presidet keeps changing the reason for this war.... One minute it's for the 9/11 (which they had nothing to do with), the next it's because of weapons of mass destruction, (none found), then it was because Saddam was a bad man and was killing his own people... Only GWB knows the reason for this war, I can only speculate. As for him being a good president... well, he ran every busines he ever had control of into the ground, Texas has some of the poorest communities in the country.. and we elected this man president (i didn't vote for him)... how smart does that make us? Please, how anyone can support this man is beyond me... |
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And this makes 100 reasons why the war in Iraq is oh so wrong.
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Why arn't we going after N Korea? They are opening threating us? Why has the hunt for Bin Ladden become 2nd priority when HE was the cause of 9/11? Why do we keep pouring money into a country that does not want us there? Why did we elect a president who cannot run a business let alone a country? anyone? |
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maybe i'm god ? :Graucho |
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and the media only supplies half truths..... Americans are extremely lazy and greedy... shit, we use to work in this country. Examples: We cant even get up off our lazy asses to change the fucking tv channel... we have remotes for everything... shit, one came with my car stereo.... I'm sitting right there... what the fuck do I need a remote for? We use to build cars, now it's done by machine.. putting a lot of people ot of work to save a few bucks in payrol and produce more cars faster. Now, we have most of our products built overseas using slave labor... Kathy Lee Gifford, Nike just to name a few. ooops.. getting off topic... sorry. |
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Does it occur to you that you are going to complain in either case? I smell partisanship. |
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N Korea made a threat and we do nothing.. that was the point... If you are going to war on an assumption and not an acual threat.... that makes no sense. |
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What do you want the US to do? Go to war? Try diplomacy? What could the US attempt that you would be happy with? If the US bombed NK would you be happy? If the US sent troops into NK would you be happy? If the US met in North Korea multiple times to attempt to find a diplomatic solution would you be happy? IS there a solution that is a good one for you or do you plan to complain either way? |
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Why are we there? Why did we go in the first place and why have we not left? All we are doing is running our economy down to "save" people who don't want us there in the 1st place. You know, if they found WMD that would be one thing.. but it was all lies.. the real probelm that started all this has become a lower priority.. Bin Ladden is still out there and laughing at us.. while we go to war over something that may or may not happen or weapons they may or may not have... Bin Ladden Did a terrible thing and we have totally put him on hold to fight what I think is a personal war for GWB... one his daddy never finished. |
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I believe you and I were discussing your statement that GWB is inconsistent in his actions towards Iraq and North Korea. I feel pretty certain that is a partisan stance you hold and for no other reason - sort of like when all the Republicans were arguing against Clinton's policy of bombing central Iraq in 1998. I'm interested in what you have to say on that though but you've pretty much danced around the conversation. We were also discussing your anti-technology stance. ;-) |
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As fas as Clinton.. I did not like him either... but at least the economy was good, I was making a lot of money in mainstream, was real dissapointed about the fucking tobacco settlements.. that was a bunch of shit. Again, all I am saying is that you have a country that may or may not have weapons and use them against us and we go to war. You have a man who took out 3 building killing 1,000's of innocent people and he is still running free... and you have a country that has openly stated that they are building nukes and will use them on us and nothing is done.. meanwhile, who is suffering... we are. Familys that miss their loved ones, soldiers that were lied to and cannot come home as planned, an economy that is hurting 1,000's of familys... So I don't understand why ou are having a hard time understanding what I am trying to say. Are you a GWB supporter? Do you really think he is doing a good job? Do you really think we went to Iraq for anything other than personal reasons? |
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0 facts 0 logic :Graucho |
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