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Old 08-31-2003, 06:13 AM   #201
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Old 08-31-2003, 06:53 AM   #202
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well, have you ever tried to promote a site without affiliates? Im doing it now... You start by being lised everywhere you can (TGPs)... (paid, free, etc..) You can do it another time at the same places.. and after the 3rd time.. you really see your sales dropping (saturation)
I really don?t understand?

We got to 5000 recurring members before we even started our affiliate program. We had a program of banner ads, text ads, we used Choker, Spotbrokers, paid gallery listings, free sites, feeder sites, etc. We built our site and then we sold it.

The only reason that we started an affiliate program at all was so that we were at the point where we could take more time out for ourselves. Why not?

And for those who think that things are not going to change? lol? Dream on.
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Old 08-31-2003, 10:23 AM   #203
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Fuck it, this is just too much hassle for me, I think I will stop selling traffic to paysites directly. It's just not worth all trouble.
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Old 08-31-2003, 10:50 AM   #204
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I really don?t understand?

We got to 5000 recurring members before we even started our affiliate program. We had a program of banner ads, text ads, we used Choker, Spotbrokers, paid gallery listings, free sites, feeder sites, etc. We built our site and then we sold it.

The only reason that we started an affiliate program at all was so that we were at the point where we could take more time out for ourselves. Why not?

And for those who think that things are not going to change? lol? Dream on.

and that is over what time frame?
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Old 08-31-2003, 11:13 AM   #205
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and that is over what time frame?
About 2 years.
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Old 08-31-2003, 11:55 AM   #206
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About 2 years.
ah ok... and did you experienced any saturation on the sites you advertised/listed on? Especially paid advertising...
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Old 08-31-2003, 12:03 PM   #207
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No not at all.

100% exclusive content, a total understanding of the niche, updates 365 days a year with a heavy bias towards broadband video, interaction with the members and years of experience in knowing how to sell it to surfers.
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Old 08-31-2003, 12:12 PM   #208
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Old 08-31-2003, 12:12 PM   #209
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No not at all.

100% exclusive content, a total understanding of the niche, updates 365 days a year with a heavy bias towards broadband video, interaction with the members and years of experience in knowing how to sell it to surfers.
oh common, dont tell me that you had the same amount of signups on thehun after your 8th listing (compared to your first 2)?! You'll reach a certain saturation on any site you advertise on after a short time... unless the sites gets a shitload of new visitors everyday/week... Do you know such sites?
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Old 08-31-2003, 12:39 PM   #210
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oh common, dont tell me that you had the same amount of signups on thehun after your 8th listing (compared to your first 2)?! You'll reach a certain saturation on any site you advertise on after a short time... unless the sites gets a shitload of new visitors everyday/week... Do you know such sites?
We don't use the Hun but as we shoot our own content a good percentage of it is shot for promotional purposes. If you shoot your own content how could it be over saturated? We can change our promotional content at an hour?s notice and its still 100% exclusive.

Its really not rocket science.
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Old 11-05-2003, 10:24 AM   #211
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Old 11-05-2003, 10:36 AM   #212
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:50 PM   #213
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he has great traffic to buy
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Old 11-06-2003, 04:17 PM   #214
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Choker: Amazing how so many people are missing your point..... Some say they get it... and then quickly say something that shows they don't.

I get it, you're right, yes it goes on, yes depending on a programs systems different webmaster accounts can be shaved at different rates.

Some programs have gone to a great deal of trouble to make their shaving "inteligent".

If you wanted to keep a good high productivity webmaster wouldn't you turn their shave down?

If you had a tiny webmaster not sending enough traffic to ever make any money.... Wouldn't you turn their shave up?

Watch this space, we'll be working extra hard with our new program to prove to all webmasters using us that we do not shave at all.

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Old 11-06-2003, 04:19 PM   #215
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btw.... u should be getting pre-paid by paysites... Fuck using their affiliate program when you're sending bulk.

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Old 11-06-2003, 05:12 PM   #216
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Nothing new dude, they arent very good at hiding it.
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Old 11-06-2003, 06:11 PM   #217
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I don't get it...what are you thanking him for?
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