Fox loses on Franken book - GoFuckYourself.com

ThunderBalls · 08-22-2003, 08:18 PM

Funny how this story is nowhere to be found on foxnews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/news/956162.asp?0cv=CB20

NEW YORK, Aug. 22 ? A federal judge on Friday denied Fox News Channel?s request for an injunction to block humorist Al Franken?s new book, whose title mocks the Fox slogan ?fair and balanced.?

U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE Denny Chin said Fox?s claim was ?wholly without merit, both factually and legally.?

The network had argued the subtitle to Franken?s book ?Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them? could trick some consumers into believing the book is associated with Fox.

The book?s subtitle is ?A fair and balanced look at the Right.?

Fox trademarked ?fair and balanced? in 1998.

The book went on sale nationally Thursday, moved up from its September rollout date because of publicity from the lawsuit.

The publisher added 50,000 copies to the original run of 270,000 after the suit was filed.

The cover features Franken standing in front of a television monitor with screens of President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, conservative pundit Ann Coulter and Fox host Bill O?Reilly.

The word ?Lies,? in the title, appears in large print over the four screens.

The Fox lawsuit described Franken as a ?C-level political commentator? who is ?increasingly unfunny? and suggested he was ?intoxicated or deranged? when he confronted a table of Fox personalities at a correspondents? dinner in April.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:21 PM

I guess you're blind, it's right there on their front page.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:22 PM

and just in case you're vision doesn't improve, here's the link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95484,00.html

KC · 08-22-2003, 08:27 PM

Justice has been served.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:28 PM

I love foxnews, I watch it all day.
But sometimes they can be quite silly, as is the case here.

ThunderBalls · 08-22-2003, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
I guess you're blind, it's right there on their front page.

My mistake, its buried under 28 other news stories on the bottom of their front page.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2003, 08:31 PM

FOX = Conservative fuckheads on government payroll.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:32 PM

If you're questioning WHY it's so easy to find on MSNBC, and CNN, and less than easy to find on FOX, you're not too sharp ; )

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
FOX = Conservative fuckheads on government payroll.

AlienQ = moron

I'm good at math too.

hottoddy · 08-22-2003, 08:38 PM

Preliminary injunctions aren't easy to obtain in cases like this. You have to quickly prove that you would most likely succeed on the merits of the case, and then the judge balances the hardships on either side. Fox still may pursue a civil suit against that doofus Franken, if they choose.

ThunderBalls · 08-22-2003, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
If you're questioning WHY it's so easy to find on MSNBC, and CNN, and less than easy to find on FOX, you're not too sharp ; )

Don't recall questioning a thing Mr. Fox News supporter.

By the way, Frankens book is number one on Amazons best seller list, Truth Hurts doesnt it.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2003, 08:42 PM

Read first:

"The Fox cable channel is a hotbed of right-wing ideologues, including talk-show host and demagogue Bill O?Reilly (who writes for the extreme right WorldNetDaily.com), Brit Hume (a contributor to the American Spectator and Murdoch-owned Weekly Standard), David Asman (formerly of the Wall Street Journal editorial page), Tony Snow (a former speechwriter in the first Bush administration), Sean Hannity (a radio talk-show host), Fred Barnes (editor of the Weekly Standard) and numerous others."

FOX NEWS

Ya owe me a blow job bitch, rinse your mind out a little its overly washed.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:49 PM

So by you're own stupidity and logic, CNN must have been on the government payroll because they were all up sucking Clintons ass for 8 years?

One of these days, the blind stupor left over from all the nonsense you lefties allowed to be drilled into your pea-brains for so long will eventually wear off.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2003, 08:54 PM

Yeah, as the peace loving people you are, your bound to kill us sooner or later.

Lets all hope it is all done in the name of god as ya pull the trigger to justify the destiny of your soul.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 08:57 PM

FYI, I'm a democrat (technically).
And, you're probably correct.

hottoddy · 08-22-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Read first:

"The Fox cable channel is a hotbed of right-wing ideologues, including talk-show host and demagogue ...

FOX NEWS

According to an editorial by David Walsh at the World Socialist Web Site !

Carrie · 08-22-2003, 09:13 PM

He's using a trademarked phrase in the title of his book, and displays two Fox hosts on the cover.
It's obvious what he's doing - unless you happen to be a judge who has forgotten the meaning of "objective".
Or maybe he's just blind. (Physically.)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2003, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
He's using a trademarked phrase in the title of his book, and displays two Fox hosts on the cover.
It's obvious what he's doing - unless you happen to be a judge who has forgotten the meaning of "objective".
Or maybe he's just blind. (Physically.)

Umm better read the article last I heard those are political figures in the pictures and the trademark term is as old as News reporting goes. In otherwords it is invalid.

The Truth Hurts · 08-22-2003, 09:26 PM

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Mr.Fiction · 08-22-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
So by you're own stupidity and logic, CNN must have been on the government payroll because they were all up sucking Clintons ass for 8 years?

CNN attacked Clinton constantly while he was president, a lot more than they have ever done to Bush.

If you think CNN is liberal, that says a lot about you, but nothing we didn't know already.

rooster · 08-22-2003, 09:40 PM

cnn is a softball network. They dont go hard either way, or look to make waves.

abc nbc cbs, all the major papers , hollywood, new york are all liberal.

Explain to us how rather, jennings, brokaw are right wing

Mr.Fiction · 08-22-2003, 09:40 PM

Quotes from the judge:

"There are hard cases and there are easy cases. This is an easy case," said U.S. District Judge Denny Chin. "This case is wholly without merit both factually and legally."

"Parody is a form of artistic expression protected by the First Amendment. The keystone to parody is imitation. Mr. Franken is clearly mocking Fox," said Chin.

The judge said he thought it ironic that a media company that should be fighting to protect free speech would seek to undermine the First Amendment. He also said he thought the "fair and balanced" trademark is weak because the phrase is used so often.

As for the trademarked phrase itself, Chin said that it was "unlikely a valid trademark. ... The mark is a weak one as trademarks go."

During oral arguments, Chin brought up one of O'Reilly's books, "The Good, the Bad and the Completely Ridiculous in American Life" as an example of a similar play on a well-known phrase -- in this case, the title of a Clint Eastwood movie, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly."

kevinl · 08-23-2003, 12:55 AM

If all the liberal left has are Michael Moore and Al Franken then they really are hard up. Not that the right has any better representatives. Are there really no intellectual people who are liberal or conservative. I mean Shawn Hannity is no brain trust. Holy rollers who want you only to be able to watch the cartoon channel and liberals who want to redistribute all my income both scare me. What is Chris Mathews? He is really one of the few who seems to use his brain and isn't spewing some left or ideology. I guess i am a moderate.

dig420 · 08-23-2003, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

AlienQ = moron

I'm good at math too.

aren't you the one who watches Fox news all day? who's the moron?

dig420 · 08-23-2003, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
He's using a trademarked phrase in the title of his book, and displays two Fox hosts on the cover.
It's obvious what he's doing - unless you happen to be a judge who has forgotten the meaning of "objective".
Or maybe he's just blind. (Physically.)

I hope when Ashhahahahaha's stormtroopers come for you, you have something put away for the kids education. Hard to pay bills when you're in the penitentiary.

yeah Republicans luv you porn mommies.

08-22-2003, 08:18 PM	#1
ThunderBalls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mesosphere Posts: 2,926	Fox loses on Franken book Funny how this story is nowhere to be found on foxnews.com http://www.msnbc.com/news/956162.asp?0cv=CB20 NEW YORK, Aug. 22 ? A federal judge on Friday denied Fox News Channel?s request for an injunction to block humorist Al Franken?s new book, whose title mocks the Fox slogan ?fair and balanced.? U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE Denny Chin said Fox?s claim was ?wholly without merit, both factually and legally.? The network had argued the subtitle to Franken?s book ?Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them? could trick some consumers into believing the book is associated with Fox. The book?s subtitle is ?A fair and balanced look at the Right.? Fox trademarked ?fair and balanced? in 1998. The book went on sale nationally Thursday, moved up from its September rollout date because of publicity from the lawsuit. The publisher added 50,000 copies to the original run of 270,000 after the suit was filed. The cover features Franken standing in front of a television monitor with screens of President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, conservative pundit Ann Coulter and Fox host Bill O?Reilly. The word ?Lies,? in the title, appears in large print over the four screens. The Fox lawsuit described Franken as a ?C-level political commentator? who is ?increasingly unfunny? and suggested he was ?intoxicated or deranged? when he confronted a table of Fox personalities at a correspondents? dinner in April.

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08-22-2003, 08:21 PM	#2
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,305	I guess you're blind, it's right there on their front page.

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,305	and just in case you're vision doesn't improve, here's the link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95484,00.html

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,305	I love foxnews, I watch it all day. But sometimes they can be quite silly, as is the case here.

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,305	If you're questioning WHY it's so easy to find on MSNBC, and CNN, and less than easy to find on FOX, you're not too sharp ; )

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hottoddy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PacNorWest Posts: 3,048	Preliminary injunctions aren't easy to obtain in cases like this. You have to quickly prove that you would most likely succeed on the merits of the case, and then the judge balances the hardships on either side. Fox still may pursue a civil suit against that doofus Franken, if they choose.

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,305	So by you're own stupidity and logic, CNN must have been on the government payroll because they were all up sucking Clintons ass for 8 years? One of these days, the blind stupor left over from all the nonsense you lefties allowed to be drilled into your pea-brains for so long will eventually wear off.

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,305	FYI, I'm a democrat (technically). And, you're probably correct.

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Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	He's using a trademarked phrase in the title of his book, and displays two Fox hosts on the cover. It's obvious what he's doing - unless you happen to be a judge who has forgotten the meaning of "objective". Or maybe he's just blind. (Physically.)

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	cnn is a softball network. They dont go hard either way, or look to make waves. abc nbc cbs, all the major papers , hollywood, new york are all liberal. Explain to us how rather, jennings, brokaw are right wing

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Quotes from the judge: "There are hard cases and there are easy cases. This is an easy case," said U.S. District Judge Denny Chin. "This case is wholly without merit both factually and legally." "Parody is a form of artistic expression protected by the First Amendment. The keystone to parody is imitation. Mr. Franken is clearly mocking Fox," said Chin. The judge said he thought it ironic that a media company that should be fighting to protect free speech would seek to undermine the First Amendment. He also said he thought the "fair and balanced" trademark is weak because the phrase is used so often. As for the trademarked phrase itself, Chin said that it was "unlikely a valid trademark. ... The mark is a weak one as trademarks go." During oral arguments, Chin brought up one of O'Reilly's books, "The Good, the Bad and the Completely Ridiculous in American Life" as an example of a similar play on a well-known phrase -- in this case, the title of a Clint Eastwood movie, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly." __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

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kevinl Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US Posts: 261	If all the liberal left has are Michael Moore and Al Franken then they really are hard up. Not that the right has any better representatives. Are there really no intellectual people who are liberal or conservative. I mean Shawn Hannity is no brain trust. Holy rollers who want you only to be able to watch the cartoon channel and liberals who want to redistribute all my income both scare me. What is Chris Mathews? He is really one of the few who seems to use his brain and isn't spewing some left or ideology. I guess i am a moderate. __________________ kevinl