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I Am The Walrus · 08-22-2003, 05:04 PM

Do you think that over the last two years adult webmasters have become more lazy?

I mean if a noob was to come into the industry today is it easier today than it would have been a coupleof years ago with all of the hosted gallerys, free content, hosting, traffic etc which is being made in order for them to actually 'make' more money what is the need for affiliate programs such as ARSE to offer webmasters hosted gallerys, free content and hosting?

Is the apprent upsurge in 'tools' being offered to webmasters going to be the ultimate downfall of the industry as a whole?

Would it not make sense to go back to how things were done in the 'golden days' where webmasters actually had to work to make their money rather than throwing up a html page linking nothing but hosted galleries on it and sending their traffic to their 'tgp' in the hopes that the tools they have been provided will actually make them some money? Does having all of these shiney new tools not dilute everyones collective money making abilities to the point where affiliate programs should just have their own people building free sites etc etc in order for them to make traffic or, even further still, have affiliate programs just go out and spend a few k at a traffic broker in order for them to, quite literally, own all the traffic that is made available to us as webmasters every single day?

What do you think about this? Are we being blinded with promotional tools and is this having a larger negative effect on the persons we are drawing into our business by them not having to learn the true 'value' of marketing to their surfers in order to make them retain and be of value to the paysite and affiliate program owners?

Lets discuss

bringer · 08-22-2003, 05:07 PM

GeXus · 08-22-2003, 05:13 PM

jimmyf · 08-22-2003, 05:15 PM

sorry I ain't got's any thing 2 think with.

freeadultcontent · 08-22-2003, 05:18 PM

Most of them tools are used by a bunch of tools all competiting for the same piece of crap traffic. Yes a bunch of people will use them and make a few bucks. Most of those people will eventually give up (traffic goes back into the crap pool), and a select few will learn how and why to do stuff for themselves.

The majority of those select few will be posting next year how the newbs are killing business, and other stuff keeping everyone well entertained, a smaller portion will learn even more and make in past year 2 or higher.

Rest doesnt matter.

Electric_Sin · 08-22-2003, 07:15 PM

The question is did you make more money the old way or the new way? I think that you need to stay on top of this business because so many changes happen all the time.

For example, we have been doing Flash Overlay ads for over a year and they get clicked on big time but you still do not see people using them as much because it takes longer to build them and it costs more. But at the end of the day they make you more money because they are not all over the place like everything else.

I tell you one thing, the best advancements still need to come I think.

GeXus · 08-22-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Electric_Sin
The question is did you make more money the old way or the new way? I think that you need to stay on top of this business because so many changes happen all the time.

For example, we have been doing Flash Overlay ads for over a year and they get clicked on big time but you still do not see people using them as much because it takes longer to build them and it costs more. But at the end of the day they make you more money because they are not all over the place like everything else.

I tell you one thing, the best advancements still need to come I think.

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I Am The Walrus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,000	Business question Do you think that over the last two years adult webmasters have become more lazy? I mean if a noob was to come into the industry today is it easier today than it would have been a coupleof years ago with all of the hosted gallerys, free content, hosting, traffic etc which is being made in order for them to actually 'make' more money what is the need for affiliate programs such as ARSE to offer webmasters hosted gallerys, free content and hosting? Is the apprent upsurge in 'tools' being offered to webmasters going to be the ultimate downfall of the industry as a whole? Would it not make sense to go back to how things were done in the 'golden days' where webmasters actually had to work to make their money rather than throwing up a html page linking nothing but hosted galleries on it and sending their traffic to their 'tgp' in the hopes that the tools they have been provided will actually make them some money? Does having all of these shiney new tools not dilute everyones collective money making abilities to the point where affiliate programs should just have their own people building free sites etc etc in order for them to make traffic or, even further still, have affiliate programs just go out and spend a few k at a traffic broker in order for them to, quite literally, own all the traffic that is made available to us as webmasters every single day? What do you think about this? Are we being blinded with promotional tools and is this having a larger negative effect on the persons we are drawing into our business by them not having to learn the true 'value' of marketing to their surfers in order to make them retain and be of value to the paysite and affiliate program owners? Lets discuss

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