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Old 08-16-2003, 07:54 PM   #1
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Want Bush out of office

...then draft General Clark for President.

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Old 08-16-2003, 08:55 PM   #2
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Hey theking,

how's the back doing ?
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Old 08-16-2003, 09:07 PM   #5
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how's the back doing ?
It has been worse than normal for about a week-ten days...I have been tapping into pain killers...which I don't like to do.
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It has been worse than normal for about a week-ten days...I have been tapping into pain killers...which I don't like to do.

That sucks...


I did the letter the first time it was posted
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Old 08-16-2003, 09:21 PM   #9
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That sucks...


I did the letter the first time it was posted
I know you did.
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Nope. Don't want Bush out of office. What I want is this age old bullshit to stop.

That won't happen with changing presidents because if it did we'd not wake every day with the pungent aroma of our own asses being kicked.

No. That change starts with us.


Look in the mirror to see what's right and wrong with us and our country.

I wish him the best and hope he sees the horseshit around him and has the where-withall to step up to the plate and beat it down.

We're facing old enemies. Not what sprang up during his presidency. These old enemies are illiteracy and hate and greed and all the other negative behaviors we humans exhibit.

We should impeach ourselves for letting things get this out of hand as it is.

Terrorists didn't attack us. We had our heads up our and everyone else's asses so long so concerned with what the other guy was doing we weren't minding our own business and got caught with our knickers down.
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Nope. Don't want Bush out of office. What I want is this age old bullshit to stop.

That won't happen with changing presidents because if it did we'd not wake every day with the pungent aroma of our own asses being kicked.

No. That change starts with us.


Look in the mirror to see what's right and wrong with us and our country.

I wish him the best and hope he sees the horseshit around him and has the where-withall to step up to the plate and beat it down.

We're facing old enemies. Not what sprang up during his presidency. These old enemies are illiteracy and hate and greed and all the other negative behaviors we humans exhibit.

We should impeach ourselves for letting things get this out of hand as it is.

Terrorists didn't attack us. We had our heads up our and everyone else's asses so long so concerned with what the other guy was doing we weren't minding our own business and got caught with our knickers down.


Enemies ? I happen to get along with the Middle Easterns guys at the gas station just fine...
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Send your electronic letter...draft General Clark for President.
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First..... would it be better to have a known evil in office, or an unknown evil?

Second..... What makes a general a good president? Generals might be good at making war and knowing about other countries, but do they know anything about domestic problems?
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First..... would it be better to have a known evil in office, or an unknown evil?

Second..... What makes a general a good president? Generals might be good at making war and knowing about other countries, but do they know anything about domestic problems?
A President has very limited power in dealing with domestic issues...he has the bully pulpit but domestic issues are really in the hands of Congress. A President has more power (but still limited power) in foreign policy decisions. Did you read the Generals qualifications...and positions?
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A President has very limited power in dealing with domestic issues
Pardon me for being rude but you are an idiot. The president himself IS the entire executive branch of govt, because he appoints/controls everyone in it. So you think the entire executive branch has little influence on domestic affairs? Geez, thats just stupid. Not to mention appointing supreme court justices and having a strong influence on congress, especially when his party is in the majority. You dont have a clue.
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Second..... What makes a general a good president? Generals might be good at making war and knowing about other countries, but do they know anything about domestic problems?
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Pardon me for being rude but you are an idiot. The president himself IS the entire executive branch of govt, because he appoints/controls everyone in it. So you think the entire executive branch has little influence on domestic affairs? Geez, thats just stupid. Not to mention appointing supreme court justices and having a strong influence on congress, especially when his party is in the majority. You dont have a clue.
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The President does not appoint Supreme Court Justices he nominates and...the Congress has the final say as to the nominee being appointed. The President does not pass budgets the Congress does. The President cannot make a single law...the Congress can. "bully pulpit" equates to "influence". So who is the one that doesn't have a clue and may be the idiot?
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The President does not appoint Supreme Court Justices he nominates and...the Congress has the final say as to the nominee being appointed. The President does not pass budgets the Congress does. The President cannot make a single law...the Congress can. "bully pulpit" equates to "influence". So who is the one that doesn't have a clue and may be the idiot?
You are! Presidents have appointed (ok named, nominated, determined, or whatever semantics you want to use) every supreme court judge in history along with federal judges as well. Not to mention the chairman and the seven members of the board of governors of the federal reserve, the attorney general, the secretaries of energy, agriculture, transportation, etc. But i suppose you think none of these and many other organizations have much influence over domestic issues. And to say he makes no laws is only technically true, ever heard of executive orders? And again, if his party has a majority of congress he gets pretty much what he asks for doesnt he? You can talk about all these technicalities like how the congress has to approve etc. But the reality is that the president has enormous influence and power over domestic issues. In many ways it may be indirect, but its there nevertheless. Spin it any way you want but what you said is just foolish.
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You are! Presidents have appointed (ok named, nominated, determined, or whatever semantics you want to use) every supreme court judge in history along with federal judges as well. Not to mention the chairman and the seven members of the board of governors of the federal reserve, the attorney general, the secretaries of energy, agriculture, transportation, etc. But i suppose you think none of these and many other organizations have much influence over domestic issues. And to say he makes no laws is only technically true, ever heard of executive orders? And again, if his party has a majority of congress he gets pretty much what he asks for doesnt he? You can talk about all these technicalities like how the congress has to approve etc. But the reality is that the president has enormous influence and power over domestic issues. In many ways it may be indirect, but its there nevertheless. Spin it any way you want but what you said is just foolish.
I repeat the President nominates...the Congress has the final say as to a person being appointed to the Supreme Court (so in essence it is Congress that appoints the Supreme Court Justices). The President as well as his cabinet...have influence "the bully pulpit" and where have I ever stated any differently? I am aware that the President has the limited ability to issue executive orders...which can be over ridden by the Congress and or the Supreme Court. I will repeat...the Presidents greatest power lies in Foreign Policy and even that is limited power. Please call again when you want to be educated again.
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You said "A President has very limited power in dealing with domestic issues". Which, as i have pointed out, is simply foolish. Very foolish.
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You said "A President has very limited power in dealing with domestic issues". Which, as i have pointed out, is simply foolish. Very foolish.
His power is extremely limited other than the "bully pulpit"...which is what I have pointed out..and is a fact. So if you think that fact is foolish then so be it...you cannot be educated.
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Hmm...what do you mean by "choose"? Did you send the letter?
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Oh fickle!

I remember the "good old days" when we had a "Commander-in-Chief" who could do no wrong. Blind "patriotism" again!

I may have even offended some by saying Bush was an idiot :-)

It seems there is more awakening to the potential that the asshole is not only an idiot, but an ignorant, devious, slimy lying little scumbag that has no qualification to hold *any* office.

For old time's sake.. I'll prompt again - Bush never was a valid candidate for any election. He lied and cheated before he ever was the Governor of Texas and left that State in the same economic condition he now has the US in. He even failed in his own business career. If he did not have a "cause" in the "war on terrorism" he would be truely fucked long before now. His decline had already started before 9/11.

This time round, for the sake of the US at home and abroad, try and elect at least someone with some qualifications and experience and dump the party political bullshit - ya can't afford that luxury - that time has passed.

Anyone or anything is better than the Texas trash. At least Clark has something to offer, but sadly, because of the "democratic system", it is not always the best man who wins.

Better luck this time around - cause it is badly needed!
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