crt v. lcd questions! - GoFuckYourself.com

sltr · 08-11-2003, 04:39 AM

the new lcd screens are starting to reach performance levels ~= crt monitors.

but which type works better at a higher screen frequency?
also, how do i coordinate my graphics card and the frequency rate set at the monitor?

i want to run at the absolute highest screen frequency possible.

advice?

thx

Mutt · 08-11-2003, 05:22 AM

you're very welcome! glad I could help

AdultNex · 08-11-2003, 06:02 AM

Well, you can configure the frequency rate in the Control Panel, it's not hard at all.

As for the LCD, what's your budget?

sltr · 08-11-2003, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Well, you can configure the frequency rate in the Control Panel, it's not hard at all.

As for the LCD, what's your budget?

i'd like to stay under $1k

LeeNoga · 08-11-2003, 06:29 AM

Sign up for one month at Consumer reports, and read.

Validus · 08-11-2003, 06:31 AM

I just bought the 17 Inch Sony flat panel and am very happy with it. I paid about 600 Euro for it.

sltr · 08-11-2003, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Sign up for one month at Consumer reports, and read.

yes, i've had a subscription to the mag for years,
but my questions are not addressed there or at cnet,
where i also try to gather info.

i have a specific need to run at a very high screen frequency

sltr · 08-11-2003, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Sign up for one month at Consumer reports, and read.

yes, i've had a subscription to the mag for years,
but my questions are not addressed there or at cnet,
where i also try to gather info.

i have a specific need to run at a very high screen frequency

bigdog · 08-11-2003, 07:11 AM

get two of these bad boys
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...9&sku=320-4105

rabbit · 08-11-2003, 07:33 AM

if you spend a LOT of time in front of your screen, fuck the price and go for LCD. CRT will eventually make you blind. with LCD, you'll get a few extra years ;)
carbon

ThePornGuy · 08-11-2003, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sltr
the new lcd screens are starting to reach performance levels ~= crt monitors.

but which type works better at a higher screen frequency?
also, how do i coordinate my graphics card and the frequency rate set at the monitor?

i want to run at the absolute highest screen frequency possible.

advice?

thx

Are you talking about resolution or refresh rate?

Phil21 · 08-11-2003, 07:39 AM

If you need to run at REALLY high resolution, CRT is still the way to go. LCD can't compare yet.

That dell I'm not positive on. They don't have shit for specs listed, namely native resolution. Max resolution doesn't mean shit for LCD's, as you can only run them in native mode w/ any kind of decent video quality.

The leader in LCD tech now is Samsung. If 1280x1024 is good enough for you, than by ALL means pick up a 191t for rather cheap these days (great monitor), or it's predecessor (model # escapes me) for probably around $800. Fucking awesome panels, the best you can buy.

Remember, don't look at max res. Native resolution is what you'll be running at, and in native mode, a high-end LCD will beat any CRT hands down in terms of video quality imo.

Stay away from Sony too. Their CRT's rock, but their LCD's are pretty much shit. Samsung all the way (most Dell's are actually regbadged samsungs of various flavors)

peace,

-Phil

Phil21 · 08-11-2003, 07:45 AM

Hrm, maybe I misread..

If you're talking refresh rate I wouldn't worry much. LCD and CRT refresh rate are not comparable.

For example I run this 191T @ 60htz here, and it looks perfect. I finally don't get headaches.

But, when I ran CRT's I HAD to be at 80htz+ or I could "see" the refreshes taking place, and it would drive me up a wall with the worst headaches imagineable. Working on others computers at their houses would make me want to rip my hair out, it's amazing the shitty monitors out there!

So.. I'm very refresh rate sensitive.. Which is another reason I went with LCD.

Or.. you could mean response time (i.e. how long it takes one pixel to change all the way from say white to full black), which is something else entirely..

What exactly are you trying to do with it? Gaming?

-Phil

PM2 · 08-11-2003, 07:47 AM

best monitor ever (especially on a cold winter night)

PornDaddy · 08-11-2003, 07:47 AM

I have 2 Samsungs. The 191T is by far the best monitor I have seen. You can get these for under $700

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...samsun g+191t

Fabuleux · 08-11-2003, 08:46 AM

Samsung SyncMaster 191T for me to. Go buy it!

sltr · 08-11-2003, 09:16 AM

hey,here's the deal-

we are doing some very hq printing and from what i've read with ps7, we can extract even higher quality if the monitor refreshes at a higher frequency.

KRL · 08-11-2003, 09:21 AM

Samsung's monitors are the best I've seen, though I'm still on CRTs but have been seriously considering hopping over to LCDs.

AdultNex · 08-11-2003, 09:33 AM

Yeah, ONLY go with Samsung or Sony LCD's.

Lane · 08-11-2003, 10:24 AM

is there any LCD that has a pixel response rate comparable to crt? i'm not planning on getting one until they get to that level. i don't like seeing the trail of the mouse pointer, or pictures going on top of eachother on movies.

Phil21 · 08-11-2003, 10:52 AM

Lane -

191T is what you're looking for.. I watch movies all the time, and play games as well. I don't notice a difference in response time.

The 191T actually was breakthrough in this regard...

I would suggest if you're worried about it, to go pick one up from best buy. It's more expensive by like $200 or so, but if you don't like it you can return it.

I did this, and paid $850 at the local store. Might be cheaper now.

-Phil

iroc409 · 08-11-2003, 11:02 AM

i agree with samsung, they make fucking top-notch products. my dad's got a couple older samsung lcd's, they fucking rock. i've got a samsung crt, and it's nuts.

although i have been looking at the professional series 20" lcd by veiwsonic. one of the few out there that will run 1600x1280 in native res. i'm pretty much spoiled to use that, so imma probably do one of those. they're $2000+ tho, so until i'm interested in spending that on a new lcd, my crt stays.

or, see if samsung comes out with something new sometime soon..

08-11-2003, 04:39 AM	#1
sltr Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,191	crt v. lcd questions! the new lcd screens are starting to reach performance levels ~= crt monitors. but which type works better at a higher screen frequency? also, how do i coordinate my graphics card and the frequency rate set at the monitor? i want to run at the absolute highest screen frequency possible. advice? thx

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Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	If you need to run at REALLY high resolution, CRT is still the way to go. LCD can't compare yet. That dell I'm not positive on. They don't have shit for specs listed, namely native resolution. Max resolution doesn't mean shit for LCD's, as you can only run them in native mode w/ any kind of decent video quality. The leader in LCD tech now is Samsung. If 1280x1024 is good enough for you, than by ALL means pick up a 191t for rather cheap these days (great monitor), or it's predecessor (model # escapes me) for probably around $800. Fucking awesome panels, the best you can buy. Remember, don't look at max res. Native resolution is what you'll be running at, and in native mode, a high-end LCD will beat any CRT hands down in terms of video quality imo. Stay away from Sony too. Their CRT's rock, but their LCD's are pretty much shit. Samsung all the way (most Dell's are actually regbadged samsungs of various flavors) peace, -Phil __________________ Quality affordable hosting.

08-11-2003, 07:45 AM	#13
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Hrm, maybe I misread.. If you're talking refresh rate I wouldn't worry much. LCD and CRT refresh rate are not comparable. For example I run this 191T @ 60htz here, and it looks perfect. I finally don't get headaches. But, when I ran CRT's I HAD to be at 80htz+ or I could "see" the refreshes taking place, and it would drive me up a wall with the worst headaches imagineable. Working on others computers at their houses would make me want to rip my hair out, it's amazing the shitty monitors out there! So.. I'm very refresh rate sensitive.. Which is another reason I went with LCD. Or.. you could mean response time (i.e. how long it takes one pixel to change all the way from say white to full black), which is something else entirely.. What exactly are you trying to do with it? Gaming? -Phil __________________ Quality affordable hosting.

08-11-2003, 06:02 AM	#3
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Well, you can configure the frequency rate in the Control Panel, it's not hard at all. As for the LCD, what's your budget?

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LeeNoga Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Egg & Sperm Mutation Posts: 3,043	Sign up for one month at Consumer reports, and read.

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Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	I just bought the 17 Inch Sony flat panel and am very happy with it. I paid about 600 Euro for it.

08-11-2003, 07:11 AM	#9
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	get two of these bad boys http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...9&sku=320-4105

08-11-2003, 07:47 AM	#14
PM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 504	best monitor ever (especially on a cold winter night)

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PornDaddy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 354	I have 2 Samsungs. The 191T is by far the best monitor I have seen. You can get these for under $700 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...samsun g+191t

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Fabuleux Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,543	Samsung SyncMaster 191T for me to. Go buy it! __________________

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sltr Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,191	hey,here's the deal- we are doing some very hq printing and from what i've read with ps7, we can extract even higher quality if the monitor refreshes at a higher frequency.

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AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Yeah, ONLY go with Samsung or Sony LCD's.

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Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	is there any LCD that has a pixel response rate comparable to crt? i'm not planning on getting one until they get to that level. i don't like seeing the trail of the mouse pointer, or pictures going on top of eachother on movies. __________________

08-11-2003, 10:52 AM	#21
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Lane - 191T is what you're looking for.. I watch movies all the time, and play games as well. I don't notice a difference in response time. The 191T actually was breakthrough in this regard... I would suggest if you're worried about it, to go pick one up from best buy. It's more expensive by like $200 or so, but if you don't like it you can return it. I did this, and paid $850 at the local store. Might be cheaper now. -Phil __________________ Quality affordable hosting.

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