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BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 07:17 PM

Says he sends 180 million emails a day and makes $40k a month.

No doubt, he is doing something very wrong, only making $40k off that volume!

ProperBo · 08-01-2003, 07:19 PM

Hes making $40k a month & pissing the world off, now I would love to do that.

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Says he sends 180 million emails a day and makes $40k a month.

No doubt, he is doing something very wrong, only making $40k off that volume!

It's not often I agree with you Brad, but this time, I agree....unless it's a 10 year old AOL email database

sweetcuties · 08-01-2003, 07:24 PM

Yea, I just saw it

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 07:24 PM

40k off 180 million emails a day, he is doing a VERY poor job of email marketing. Lists must either be old, or he is using shotgun method and not learning and adapting.

bigdog · 08-01-2003, 07:27 PM

The guy was useing sendsafe.What top mailer uses sendsafe these days

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 07:27 PM

Lets also not forget that idiot was using fake return emails, like [email protected]. Same thing Microsoft is suing people for., including a few adult companies.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/...pam030801.html

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
The guy was useing sendsafe.What top mailer uses sendsafe these days

bwhahahahaah, no wondering that's all he was making off that volume...I doubt he was doing that volume though....possible, but unlikely...

Gemini · 08-01-2003, 07:31 PM

Did you notice the one screenshot with Mikes Apartment etc on it?!

BlackCrayon · 08-01-2003, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
40k off 180 million emails a day, he is doing a VERY poor job of email marketing. Lists must either be old, or he is using shotgun method and not learning and adapting.

of he is still making 40k a month, i doubt he cares. sure you could make more but you can't complain with 40k/month.

SKULL · 08-01-2003, 07:32 PM

40k wow

Ice · 08-01-2003, 07:36 PM

FUCK SPAMMERS

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by BlackCrayon

of he is still making 40k a month, i doubt he cares. sure you could make more but you can't complain with 40k/month.

I guess it is the businessman in me, hate to see people leave $ on the table. Seriously though, there is no reason to send out so much junk mail. Targeted mailing is the future, not harvesting aol emails.

I thought the story overall was weak. No mention of all the new state spam laws, lawsuits, etc. I sent 20/20 a note and a few links.

dij · 08-01-2003, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

bwhahahahaah, no wondering that's all he was making off that volume...I doubt he was doing that volume though....possible, but unlikely...

He said it

Servers can send out that volume..

joseph4829 · 08-01-2003, 07:37 PM

What was his name?

01SCdZ06 · 08-01-2003, 07:38 PM

40k a month was mentioned but they also mentioned that he filed for bankruptcy recently... Legal problems perhaps..

BlackCrayon · 08-01-2003, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

I guess it is the businessman in me, hate to see people leave $ on the table. Seriously though, there is no reason to send out so much junk mail. Targeted mailing is the future, not harvesting aol emails.

I thought the story overall was weak. No mention of all the new state spam laws, lawsuits, etc. I sent 20/20 a note and a few links.

i wish i would of caught it, i had no idea 20/20 was doing a piece on spammers. oh well, you are right tho, he should maximize his profits, i doubt he'll get away with spamming like that forever.

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Seriously though, there is no reason to send out so much junk mail. Targeted mailing is the future, not harvesting aol emails.

fucker, stop making me agree with you (especially twice in the same thread) ;-)))

I for one, love the new spam laws as they say "go ahead and spam, but here's what you have to do" thanks for the roadmap guys! ;-)

and it'll de-fang spamcop and spamhaus.....

beemk · 08-01-2003, 07:41 PM

yeah those numbers just dont add up

affiliatecash · 08-01-2003, 07:46 PM

Yep absolutely agree, he is doing some thing majorly wrong or just full of shit

detoxed · 08-01-2003, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Says he sends 180 million emails a day and makes $40k a month.

No doubt, he is doing something very wrong, only making $40k off that volume!

He bought the CD with 600 million emails for $500

bigdog · 08-01-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Did you notice the one screenshot with Mikes Apartment etc on it?!

yeah i saw that

cash69 · 08-01-2003, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Lets also not forget that idiot was using fake return emails, like [email protected]. Same thing Microsoft is suing people for., including a few adult companies.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/...pam030801.html

quote from aol

"Leonsis said, "I have a 10-year-old daughter, and she clicked on the wrong e-mail and she came downstairs and she asked me, 'daddy, do I need a bigger penis?'""

that has got to be the fakest shit i have ever herd

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by 01SCdZ06
40k a month was mentioned but they also mentioned that he filed for bankruptcy recently... Legal problems perhaps..

Nah, if he's sending that much mail, he's not exactly hosting it on one of those $4.95 per month plans.

Also, if he made the money fairly quickly, he probably spent it just as quickly. When guys run into money like that (especially if it was his first time making that kind of money) they often live on credit...and then the bills come in...

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by cash69

quote from aol

"Leonsis said, "I have a 10-year-old daughter, and she clicked on the wrong e-mail and she came downstairs and she asked me, 'daddy, do I need a bigger penis?'""

that has got to be the fakest shit i have ever herd

yeah, pure bullshit....it's funny, but I doubt it's authenticity....

sandman! · 08-01-2003, 07:58 PM

Most people would whore out thier own mother for 40k a month.

BradShaw · 08-01-2003, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by sandman!
Most people would whore out thier own mother for 40k a month.

Most, but not all. $40k a month is not worth going to jail over, or being sued by aol/microsoft... But then again, he claimed to grow up in a trailer park.

siccmade · 08-01-2003, 08:03 PM

Where can I find information on the new spam laws?

cash69 · 08-01-2003, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

yeah, pure bullshit....it's funny, but I doubt it's authenticity....

if it is true.. he should be put in jail for letting his 10 year old daughter on a computer unsupervised without any kind of blocks or filters.. he knows all of the porn that goes on.. he said they block 2 billion messages a day for tha type of stuff.. he knows what goes on and still let's his 10 year old daughter see it.. it's different then parents that don't know what goes on becuase they have never even been on a computer... let alone know how to sign on the internet

SomeCreep · 08-01-2003, 08:06 PM

Every spammer I've ever known is either dumb as fuck or newbie as fuck. Again proven correct with this guy. The stupidest thing he could've done is go on TV and says he spams millions of people a day.

jimmyf · 08-01-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Most, but not all. $40k a month is not worth going to jail over, or being sued by aol/microsoft... But then again, he claimed to grow up in a trailer park.

he's a spammer do you really think he is telling the truth. I think he's stupid for going on that TV show or any TV show and tell the world look a stupid spammer

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I think he's stupid for going on that TV show or any TV show and tell the world look a stupid spammer

hahaha, no shit...tomorrow this board will be filled with people asking for a cracked version of sendsafe, BP hosting and 50 million email addresses...

Theo · 08-01-2003, 08:09 PM

he lies, the resources he needs to send 180mil emails/day is that huge his roi would be a joke if he only made $40k/month

cash69 · 08-01-2003, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
he lies, the resources he needs to send 180mil emails/day is that huge his roi would be a joke if he only made $40k/month

he prolly just buys a tun of win2k box's and loads up send-safe and calls himself a spammer

AllisonWonderland · 08-01-2003, 08:14 PM

There's some asshole ex-cop here in Dayton (he and his skank wife were cops who got busted selling drugs) who's a spammer, a black guy who calls his company gold-something or something-gold. The CD -for-$500 thing sounds familiar, was the guy on 20/20 black?

EscortBiz · 08-01-2003, 08:17 PM

well maybe hes just a spammer for others and the people pay him a fee to send the mail, they are making the real money

I just cant see how you earn just 40K off 180mil a day

tootie · 08-01-2003, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Most, but not all. $40k a month is not worth going to jail over, or being sued by aol/microsoft... But then again, he claimed to grow up in a trailer park.

I grew up in a trailer park. I wish I could make $40k a month. But I'm not going to jail over it, I've got kids to care for. *sigh*

drunkdollars · 08-01-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
well maybe hes just a spammer for others and the people pay him a fee to send the mail, they are making the real money

I just cant see how you earn just 40K off 180mil a day

Sending 180 million and haveing 180 million get rreceived are two very different things.

Spunky · 08-01-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by sandman!
Most people would whore out thier own mother for 40k a month.

No 50 k after all its Mom

EscortBiz · 08-01-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by drunkdollars

Sending 180 million and haveing 180 million get rreceived are two very different things.

thats true too young lady

sandman! · 08-01-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1

No 50 k after all its Mom

LOL

PrivateEye · 08-01-2003, 08:29 PM

Probaly that dumb son of bitch that sent me the ronald regan hat offer for $20 bucks

TheJimmy · 08-01-2003, 10:36 PM

of course another biased and boring representation of what goes on...

maxjohan · 08-01-2003, 11:00 PM

Why spam? That's like telling everyone that you like to eat shit..

RockDaddy · 08-01-2003, 11:10 PM

What kind of spammer would they have been able to find to do their show? What did they do, look him up in the yellow pages under "spammers"?

SykkBoy · 08-01-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
Why spam? That's like telling everyone that you like to eat shit..

Actually, most of the good spammers I know eat lobster and filet mignon...but the terrible ones? yeah, probably a nugget here and there of the brown stuff........

Zappu · 08-02-2003, 10:47 AM

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180 million emails a day

of course he can do this, to the mail accounts of his own intranet. And then sign on with your own CC and via your own telephone line calling your own numbers

Anthony_A · 08-02-2003, 12:22 PM

Let's just do the math.

Sendsafe on a good day will send 15,000 an hour. That's 360k a day for one box.

That's 500 boxes to send out 180million.

I'm not even going to go into cost of the machines and bandwidth, sounds like someone is just full of shit.

08-01-2003, 07:17 PM	#1
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08-01-2003, 07:24 PM	#5
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	40k off 180 million emails a day, he is doing a VERY poor job of email marketing. Lists must either be old, or he is using shotgun method and not learning and adapting. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

08-01-2003, 07:27 PM	#7
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08-01-2003, 08:14 PM	#35
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08-02-2003, 12:22 PM	#48
Anthony_A Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,219	Let's just do the math. Sendsafe on a good day will send 15,000 an hour. That's 360k a day for one box. That's 500 boxes to send out 180million. I'm not even going to go into cost of the machines and bandwidth, sounds like someone is just full of shit.