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Old 07-25-2003, 07:30 PM   #1
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Are you willing to die for you country?

If someone offered you a gun and plane ticket to go to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere that we may have to go to fight next. Would you be willing to go right now, are you willing to fight for your country and risk your life?

I have to say, I would go, I don't think I would have to think twice about it, my country is a great place and I would be willing to pick up a weapon and fight for it to survive if I was needed.

Politics and all aside because I don't agree with the current administrations policies, I'm talking purely from a standpoint of whether you are willing to pick up arms and fight for your country if you were needed.
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Old 07-25-2003, 07:31 PM   #2
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Been there, done that.... fuck that noise. I'll leave that to you young bucks. I'm all about enjoying the fuck outta every goddamned day I got left on this Earth.
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Old 07-25-2003, 07:33 PM   #3
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The answer depends on the circumstances. If my country is involved in a conflict that I believe is worthwhile or necessary, I would be willing to risk my life for the cause. Despite all the bickering, I believe a greater good has been served in Iraq. Vietnam, however, was a bad joke. I would risk my life for my country but not for some political whim that serves no purpose I can understand.

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I wont go...you will go instead of me...im too important...;)
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Old 07-25-2003, 07:39 PM   #5
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If someone has the balls to invade the usa yea i will fight but going over to iraq or whatever country the prez decided to invade fuck that im not interested in taking over the world or telling people how to run thier biz.
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like sandman! said i would defend my country if it were invaded but fuck joining the army or whatever. you get paid worse than minimum wage for the worst job possible. and while they all think they are fighting for freedom, and in a sense they are, they are killing and dying for the decisions of politicians and businessmen who are completely detached from the situation.
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If someone offered you a gun and plane ticket to go to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere that we may have to go to fight next. Would you be willing to go right now, are you willing to fight for your country and risk your life?
NOPE! I want to see the full uncensored truth about why I should go and, maybe then I would. And.. if I was lied to, the gun would turn the other way...

Fuck all that BS partiotism!
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Old 07-25-2003, 07:52 PM   #9
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you're 20.

what could you possibly know about killin' people.
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DIE FOR A FUCKING COUNTRY? That's the most pathetic thing I can imagine.

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Old 07-25-2003, 07:55 PM   #13
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you're 20.

what could you possibly know about killin' people.
I've killed many back in my days of Wolfenstein. Was a scary yet rewarding tour, it will never be forgotten.
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Old 07-25-2003, 07:56 PM   #14
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The reality is politicians only say "Died for fighting for their country" just to make the death meaningful

99% of the time soldiers fight to stay alive and keep their buddies and other fellow soldiers alive


Remember back when they interviewed all the wounded soldiers and marines? They all said they wanted to go back their team and fight
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i would die for a pizza now

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Old 07-25-2003, 07:59 PM   #17
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DIE FOR A FUCKING COUNTRY? That's the most pathetic thing I can imagine.

He who isn't willing to defend his freedom deserves no freedom.




And if you fuckers were drafted, you'd go. Period. God-damned good thing there weren't all that many like you back in 1940 or we'd all be sprechenzie Duetche right about now. You slackers.
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like sandman! said i would defend my country if it were invaded but fuck joining the army or whatever. you get paid worse than minimum wage for the worst job possible. and while they all think they are fighting for freedom, and in a sense they are, they are killing and dying for the decisions of politicians and businessmen who are completely detached from the situation.
Interesting point of view..

One thing I note is that the leaders of countries.. the politicians & businessmen as you call them - seldom pay a price for war.

Saddam may come to mind, but even if he gets killed by the US, he's had a pretty good past 20 years running a country, I mean, he's got a fair bit of wealth & runs a country, not a bad deal for him.

Except, he should have taken the offer of exile and gone with that, he still could have lived like a king in first class luxury, just couldn't control a country
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seriously

Knock yourself out

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I would fight (and die if i had to) for my family, my friends and myself.
In my eyes that supercedes any country I may happen to be born into. Anyone on this board could have been born on some mountainside in Africa just as much as a country in the "western world". Don't see "country" as relevant.
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"Foreigners" in respect to who? I smell the usual "us" and "them" again.

I don't give a shit where someone is born - they never asked to be born there - including the US - so are all treated the same.


"Patriotism is a disease of the vicious" - Oscar Wilde.
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The local Pizza Hut store serving the 14100 ZIP code is NOT currently available for on-line internet ordering via Pizza Hut Online.

they dont like foreigners

Sorry buddy, I forgot that pizza hut can't deliver to Greece
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It means you have been brainwashed.

Too many flags, anthems and pledges of allegience.

Suckers.
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a nice quote:

"There is a comparison of this dilemma of mixed patriotism to an example of ambivalence found in family life, or more specifically within a troubled family, with regard to the relationship between a father and his son. The son represents the "Patriot" and the father represents the "Nation". This is a logical comparison since the root word of "Patriotism" is the Greek word "pater", meaning father, and the word Nation being derived from "natio" or "by birth" (natal). The son, by instinct, is loyal to his father. But let's say that the father gets drunk sometimes and beats up the son for no reason; the son hates the father's unjust violation of their relationship. He is loyal to his father, yet he hates his father's misuse of authority. This is a personal analogy of the Ambivalent Patriotism that many Americans have toward their national government. "

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It means you have been brainwashed.

Too many flags, anthems and pledges of allegience.

Suckers.

you must be a Jehova Witness
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you must be a Jehova Witness
Nope. I'm an atheist.

I'm just not prepared to be brainwashed by the man.
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Nope. I'm an atheist.

I'm just not prepared to be brainwashed by the man.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
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Any worthless retard, no matter what country you live in, saying he wouldn't get off his lazy shiftless ass to defend and fight for his country epitomizes the ultimate insult and slap in the face of every war veteran that ever took up arms on your behalf.


If you don't understand that, you are a fuckwit.
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That is simply NOT true SR!! Its cuz you have funny looking money

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Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
Go to war, fight, see your best friends die, kill a few people, come back when you have PTSD and talk to me about patriotism then (while you are preparing your morning shot of heroin)
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im native american. if we are invaded, i will pick up a gun and kill.

but im not gonna go fight a war just because some white man thinks it's a good idea.

fuck whitey
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If anyone invaded US I would join right away, but I'm too old for overseas crap and I'm not sure most scenarios in the past really fall into 'Dying for your country' category. Maybe WW2 qualified for this, maybe. Depends on which books your read, I think.
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I would never risk my life for my country

god damnit, the only reason there is war is because of 2 assholes... (takes 2 to tango, you cant clap with one hand)

Im not gonna get myself killed because they cant come up with an agreement
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Go to war, fight, see your best friends die, kill a few people, come back when you have PTSD and talk to me about patriotism then (while you are preparing your morning shot of heroin)
Your alternative is to run and hide from your country's enemies then? Dodge the draft?


Buddy, if I got the call when I was younger, they wouldn't have HAD to fucking draft me. I wouldn't have waited to be asked, I would have been there. Go study some history, maybe talk to a few vets and then come talk to me.
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im native american.

So is my old man and he wonders if you are a Chippewha squaw, or just chatter like one. Its in the genetic makeup of Native Americans to fight and fight well.
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So is my old man and he wonders if you are a Chippewha squaw, or just chatter like one. Its in the genetic makeup of Native Americans to fight and fight well.
I'm Apache and I have my principals. I wont fight for a white man.
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Any worthless retard, no matter what country you live in, saying he wouldn't get off his lazy shiftless ass to defend and fight for his country....
Unfortunately you got this usual load of "assumptions" which generalise on everyone and mean nothing.

If something is worth fighting for, I don't doubt it will get support.

Unfortunately I have not seen much lately that is worth fighting for. Only some cheap "words" of some politicans who have never been involved in *any* war.
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There is more culture/principles/basic sense in the Native American than any immature 200 year old popcorn culture of the US.
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Sounds fair BigFrog.

He just liked to fight. lol From what I read, his tribe were mercenaries to other tribes for centuries.
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Unfortunately you got this usual load of "assumptions" which generalise on everyone and mean nothing.

If something is worth fighting for, I don't doubt it will get support.

Unfortunately I have not seen much lately that is worth fighting for. Only some cheap "words" of some politicans who have never been involved in *any* war.
Those that are in the Canadian & US armed forces currently are there out of choice. That's what they do, it is their job. When the Government directs the military to go somewhere and fight, they do it. Period. In situations like Iraq and Afghanistan there was no draft, there was no "Call to arms" from the nation's leader asking the population to sign up and fight.


Part of the original question above was "Would you fight for your country" which says to me "if some foreign enemy was threatening my country, would I be willing to defend it? Would I be willing to fight to preserve my way of life and that of my family and friends??"....... To answer "no" to that is absolutely disgusting.
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Old 07-25-2003, 08:46 PM   #48
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[B]Your alternative is to run and hide from your country's enemies then? Dodge the draft?

I wrote what I would fight for above. If any of those were in danger I would give my life.

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Buddy, if I got the call when I was younger, they wouldn't have HAD to fucking draft me. I wouldn't have waited to be asked, I would have been there. Go study some history, maybe talk to a few vets and then come talk to me.
Buddy, some of us here have seen a little bit more of war than your big screen TV has shown you. You maybe would be the first one in line, but you would also be the first one to find the bullet with your name on it or to simply chciken out and run
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Old 07-25-2003, 08:47 PM   #49
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There is more culture/principles/basic sense in the Native American than any immature 200 year old popcorn culture of the US.
That was also the best joke in Gaul social circles around 60BC
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Buddy, some of us here have seen a little bit more of war than your big screen TV has shown you. You maybe would be the first one in line, but you would also be the first one to find the bullet with your name on it or to simply chciken out and run
fiddy.... and well said.
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