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Old 07-24-2003, 01:14 PM   #1
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xagraphics.com scam alert, using Non Licensed images in design, everyone read this

BHicks (8:18 AM) :
My Partner Reak says you have some sites for sale, so lets see them and then we can talk. I have a few thousand to play with, but Im not a newb so lets see what you have
BHicks (8:21 AM) :
My Partner Reak says you have some sites for sale, so lets see them and then we can talk. I have a few thousand to play with, but Im not a newb so lets see what you have

XA (8:25 AM) :
hey.
BHicks (8:26 AM) :
show me the sites for sale
BHicks (8:27 AM) :
http://xagraphics.com/portfolio/lisaswetdreams/

is this the only one?
XA (8:28 AM) :
i have two designs for sale for now.
one of them is affiliate program website: http://www.xagraphics.com/portfolio/affiliatedesign
one of them is a teen paysite design: http://www.xagraphics.com/portfolio/lisaswetdreams
BHicks (8:29 AM) :
how much for both
XA (8:29 AM) :
150$
XA (8:30 AM) :
but maybe i can do it a bit more cheaper for you because of reakwon .
XA (8:30 AM) :
but if you think to buy now!
BHicks (8:30 AM) :
heh I own reakwon heh
BHicks (8:31 AM) :
well... I dont need the affiliate part, its not really yanking my chain, how much for the paysite design
XA (8:31 AM) :
hehcool.
XA (8:31 AM) :
75$ with it - paypal
BHicks (8:31 AM) :
eh whats paypal address
BHicks (8:32 AM) :
I will need the full psds with it
XA (8:32 AM) :
ok. np.
but i can give u the paypal info in a few hours.
because my partner is not online at the moment
XA (8:32 AM) :
can u send it with WU charging the fees from 75$?
BHicks (8:33 AM) :
heh you told reakwon $50 for it eh?
BHicks (8:33 AM) :
heh heh
XA (8:33 AM) :
no.i wanted the same pricefrom him too. you can ask
XA (8:34 AM) :
i am always selling it forvery cheap man. why don't u trust me.
i just need money and don't use it for now. and i want to sell it for very cheap because of that reason. that's all
XA (8:34 AM) :
normally i am charging about 600$ for a full paysite design like the one i sold u.
BHicks (8:35 AM) :
http://www.xxxemailxxx.com/donk/thumb.htm
http://www.xxxemailxxx.com/boat.jpg
BHicks (8:35 AM) :
heh Im a designer too 8))
XA (8:35 AM) :
good
XA (8:36 AM) :
flad to meet with you.
BHicks (8:36 AM) :
okay well for $75 throw down an email address then since Ill be paying for it
BHicks (8:37 AM) :
Ill need full psd files sent to edited including all model livenses or what have you, psd, and html
XA (8:37 AM) :
hmm. is it possible to download them on my site after sending payment?
BHicks (8:38 AM) :
yes, do you have any info on the 2257 for the photographer who took the content
XA (8:38 AM) :
no.
but i think, it won't get any problem to you in the future.
BHicks (8:39 AM) :
well... heh do you know who the photographer was?
XA (8:39 AM) :
anyway, the other reakwon can (my friend ) change some of the pics if you have some licenced teen pics.
XA (8:39 AM) :
i really dunno.
sorry
XA (8:42 AM) :
btw: is it possible for you to send the payment with WU? it will be really very good for me.
i also agree you to charge the WU fees from me
BHicks (8:42 AM) :
eh what?
BHicks (8:42 AM) :
western union?
XA (8:43 AM) :
yes
BHicks (8:44 AM) :
heh why dont you use paypal
BHicks (8:44 AM) :

BHicks (8:44 AM) :
im lazy, you want me to honestly drive the 30 minutes to a western union to send you a wu?
XA (8:45 AM) :
can't u do it online on westernunion.com ?
XA (8:47 AM) :
?
BHicks (8:48 AM) :
the domain is already taken, theres no way i can take illegal images from paul markham and have them used in the design, so to me the design with the female images is worthless to me.

Ill buy the layout template for $30 and not a penny more. No webmaster who is legit will touch that design
XA (8:49 AM) :
ok. you know.bye.

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Old 07-24-2003, 01:23 PM   #2
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I edited it to try and change the topic header so more people would read this, apparently it didnt work
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Old 07-24-2003, 01:28 PM   #4
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I edited it to try and change the topic header so more people would read this, apparently it didnt work
i knew something was up with that guy. thanks for confirming my suspicions and not going any further then an icq message!
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$75??? damn he realy is in need of money
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that's what happens with most of these "template" sites. Until now, all of those I asked about that "little copyright thingy" failed to give an explanation. That's why some days ago somebody sold a premade tour at 1200 but with full copyright. No problem, kaboom, 1200 in the pocket.

What do 99% of people in this board need to learn?

THERE'S NO FREE MEALS IN HERE!

You're warned, then don't come crying when those galleries at 5 bucks were just another scam, or the tours costs 75 but the licenses for the content costs 1000 (or 200 or 300 or whatever). Of course, there will be always newbies and those trying to make 1 million dollars investing 50.

For the record: I think these XA guys are good designers, just need to get out of these crap 75 deals

Another question for the "premade tour" fans: are you aware that you'll have EXACTLY THE SAME SITE as maybe hundreds of people? What makes you think that if somebody saw your tour somewhere else and didn't signed will do it just because they're seeing it at your domain?
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Another question for the "premade tour" fans: are you aware that you'll have EXACTLY THE SAME SITE as maybe hundreds of people? What makes you think that if somebody saw your tour somewhere else and didn't signed will do it just because they're seeing it at your domain?
Agreed, thats why they should be sold exclusively to that person and not to anyone else.
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Old 07-24-2003, 02:41 PM   #8
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I think we as xatemplates.com have to mention that we have no partnership with xagraphics.com . So many people get confuses about us having the name xa in front of our domains but we are completely different companies.

And I can confirm that we have no ( I mean no) stolen images in our templates.

We bought the domain adultwebtemplates.com and we will be moving our site to that domain soon.
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I think we as xatemplates.com have to mention that we have no partnership with xagraphics.com . So many people get confuses about us having the name xa in front of our domains but we are completely different companies.

And I can confirm that we have no ( I mean no) stolen images in our templates.

We bought the domain adultwebtemplates.com and we will be moving our site to that domain soon.
I always thought you were one and the same company
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nope..Just once he designed 15 templates for us with our own content...

but we in no way are partners. xatemplates.com belongs to Vipiu Ltd.
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Please check our templates, you will not find any stolen images in our templates. you can contact the content providers directly as we give you the links that we used the contents from..

And from now on we will not let xagraphics to get our name bad anymore..

we will just move our site under adultwebtemplates.com .
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that's what happens with most of these "template" sites. Until now, all of those I asked about that "little copyright thingy" failed to give an explanation. That's why some days ago somebody sold a premade tour at 1200 but with full copyright. No problem, kaboom, 1200 in the pocket.

What do 99% of people in this board need to learn?

THERE'S NO FREE MEALS IN HERE!

You're warned, then don't come crying when those galleries at 5 bucks were just another scam, or the tours costs 75 but the licenses for the content costs 1000 (or 200 or 300 or whatever). Of course, there will be always newbies and those trying to make 1 million dollars investing 50.

For the record: I think these XA guys are good designers, just need to get out of these crap 75 deals

Another question for the "premade tour" fans: are you aware that you'll have EXACTLY THE SAME SITE as maybe hundreds of people? What makes you think that if somebody saw your tour somewhere else and didn't signed will do it just because they're seeing it at your domain?

As I told, we in no way have to do anything with xagraphics.com. You should be more carefull when posting a message like that as you may get sued of that.

Please check the content providers links in the template descriptions. we are all open to our customers. we give th direct link to the content providers site. you can send an email to the content providers diretly asking about the images..

Having similar names do not make us theaves, does it????

You can send me a direct email at: [email protected] or ICQ: 45147309 if you already bought a template from us. I can send you all the image licenses that we used in the templates.
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fuck! it's my own paysite design. cum and contact me directly to see the licences!

someone is really bullshit on this board!
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Ok.I decided to explain everything real.

i agree that i tried to sell a paysite design for very cheap. I wanted to sell it because of needing some money asap for paying my university fees. I know maybe 75$ or 750$ is nothing for an university fee but, money is really very needed thing for me now. Maybe most of you don't trust me, it's normal. But i say everything real here for this time. These are maybe my last words. It's really very hard for me to say but you most of my friends won...i couldn't play this game well.

after staying online for 4 years, i am leaving from the biz soon....

good luck to everybody.
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BenThomson, are you the guy from Xascripts.com ?
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Hi Richard.. Yes I am..

we own the following sites:

xatemplates.com
xascripts.com
wmtemplates.com

I am also the author of the scripts in the site.
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And he says that he has got the licenses for all images...

So what is all this shit about ????????????
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And he says that he has got the licenses for all images...

So what is all this shit about ????????????
Is it a transferable license, or a license that allows for it to be sold in such a manner?

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VidoeVoyeur is a fucking retard!

someone should lock this thread. he is just trying to fuck with someone else cause hes pissed he has to buy content which he cant afford to go with his $75 design that he got cause he is too broke and retarded to pay full price. which shows through his anger from having to buy his own content.

get a fucking clue V.v.!
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Yeah most content providers require you to have special transferrable licenses if you are creating the designs for sale (I know xatemplates is legit, but I don't know this other guy. BenThompson is good people though) Actually I know Paul's licensing is fairly strict, so unless you are allowed to transfer those images to a new owner, legally, Mr. XaGraphics, you cannot transfer the content with the design. You should probably consult with Paul first.
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Just haters with nothing else better to do than post ICQ messages. I have had an extensive relationship with Ben from xascripts.com and he is top notch! Be advised that these are two seperate companies even though their domains are similar.
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VidoeVoyeur is a fucking retard!

someone should lock this thread. he is just trying to fuck with someone else cause hes pissed he has to buy content which he cant afford to go with his $75 design that he got cause he is too broke and retarded to pay full price. which shows through his anger from having to buy his own content.

get a fucking clue V.v.!
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VidoeVoyeur is a fucking retard!

someone should lock this thread. he is just trying to fuck with someone else cause hes pissed he has to buy content which he cant afford to go with his $75 design that he got cause he is too broke and retarded to pay full price. which shows through his anger from having to buy his own content.

get a fucking clue V.v.!
Well dispite your little diatribe, he IS correct.. most content is NON-TRANSFERRABLE. He would be legally liable to Paul Markham and any other content providers if he took the content with the design unless the original owner has a special license.
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We have had no problems with xagraphics.com at all. They are a good company.

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fuck! it's my own paysite design. cum and contact me directly to see the licences!

someone is really bullshit on this board!

Erm man, dont try to bullshit, you got popped, i would have bought it, but you said you didnt have the rights to the images used in the design and that you had traded them from someone you did design work for.

I asked you who took the images what photographer and you didnt even know, and i asked for the licenses to be able to use them and you couldnt supply them.



Then to top it off you want $75 via western union for the design on a domain thats already owned.



2+2+2+2+2= too many reasons to not buy shit from you.


If you had had the licenses to be able to use the images in the design, I would have bought it IF and only IF the license came as a transferable one.
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VidoeVoyeur is a fucking retard!

someone should lock this thread. he is just trying to fuck with someone else cause hes pissed he has to buy content which he cant afford to go with his $75 design that he got cause he is too broke and retarded to pay full price. which shows through his anger from having to buy his own content.

get a fucking clue V.v.!
hey Shitforbrains, I've made more then enough inn the last day to buy 3 full designs from him. He approched my partner trying to sell that site for $75.

So if you dont know shit, dont even try to step to me fag.
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And he says that he has got the licenses for all images...

So what is all this shit about ????????????

Thats what I asked him for and he said he didnt have it.


Some of you guys are pretty funny, you buy illegal shit and then say its legal, heh I guess thats what seperates a newb from someone who does shit legit.
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That's the reason I like imageauction.com so much... you can buy the semi exclusive sets with reseller rights, IDs and can sell it with the design, see the avs design with banners and tgp template for sale in my sig.
And you can find stunning Asian and celeb sets shot by Mike Legge Studios, amateur, whatever you need and even can post your order or request on their board.
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As I told, we in no way have to do anything with xagraphics.com. You should be more carefull when posting a message like that as you may get sued of that.

Please check the content providers links in the template descriptions. we are all open to our customers. we give th direct link to the content providers site. you can send an email to the content providers diretly asking about the images..

Having similar names do not make us theaves, does it????

You can send me a direct email at: [email protected] or ICQ: 45147309 if you already bought a template from us. I can send you all the image licenses that we used in the templates.
Who is talking about your sites? Where do I mention any site at all? If you say people is confusing you with another people, why are you confusing people when I didn't? Plus, what is wrong with what I told, even assuming for a second that I was talking about you? The only thing I say is there's no way a designer can offer a template at 75 including copyrighted content, much less if it's Paul Markham's. That tour uses at least 10 different sets, just do the maths, even with an special arrange of 20% of the real value the price doesn't close

And you should be more careful when reading, or if you feel like sueing someone, maybe start for the one using a similar name to yours, huh?
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Yeah most content providers require you to have special transferrable licenses if you are creating the designs for sale (I know xatemplates is legit, but I don't know this other guy. BenThompson is good people though) Actually I know Paul's licensing is fairly strict, so unless you are allowed to transfer those images to a new owner, legally, Mr. XaGraphics, you cannot transfer the content with the design. You should probably consult with Paul first.
Thanks LM, yes you are right the license on Paul Markham Content Store is very strict. This is premium content and the webmasters who buy it do not want it on every tour. The signature site is a little loser. But on both content sites we expect the set to be inside the site.
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