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Bobby Vicious 07-23-2003 09:07 AM

A very humorous and revealing story is told about a group of white people who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined together and wished themselves away. They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a twilight zone where there is an America without black people.

At first these white people breathe a sigh of relief. At last, they say, no more crime, drugs, violence and welfare. All of the blacks have gone!!
Then suddenly, reality sets in. The "NEW AMERICA" is not America at all-only a barren land. There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was built on a slave-supported system.

There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander Mils, a black man, invented the elevator, and without it one finds great difficulty reaching high floors.

There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man, invented the automatic gear shift, and Garrett A. Morgan invented the traffic signals.

Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its precursor was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man, Elbert R. Robinson.

Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit
system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper.

There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purvis invented the fountain pen, Lee Burridge invented the Type Writing Machine and W. A. Lovette invented the Advanced Printing Press. They were all, you guessed it, black.

Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books,
they would not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking and Cancelling Machine, William Purvis invented the Hand Stamp and Phillip Downing invented the Letter Drop.

The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower.

When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly
ventilated and poorly heated. You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air Conditioner and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace. Their homes were also dim. But of course, Lewis Latimer invented the Electric Lamp, Michael Harvey invented the Lantern and Granville T. Woods invented the Automatic Cut off Switch.

Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Steward invented the Mop and Lloyd P. Ray, the Dust Pan.

Their children met them at the door-barefooted, shabby, motley and unkempt. But what could one expect? Jan E. Matzelinger invented the Shoe Lasting Machine, Walter Sammons invented the Comb, Sarah Boone invented the Ironing Board and George T. Samon invented the Clothes Dryer.

Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of
this turmoil. But here again, the food had spoiled because another black man, John Standard invented the refrigerator.

Now, isn't that something? What would this world be like without
the contributions of Black folks? Black history includes more than just slavery, Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey and Dubois.

Don't forget George Washington Carver, a black American who invented the gretest invention of all time, peanut butter
Flame on.

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy

While we're on this subject, answer me one more question: Why do you think American afro-centrist "scholars" have tried so desperately to appropriate Egyptian culture & history as their own?

Why does any civilization identify with the "winners" of the past? Why are there so many statues of Christopher Columbus in the Americas? Why do so many buildings in Washington DC look like Roman knock-offs? Why does the Washington Monument look like an Egyption obelisk?

Why do people use the word "we" when referring to people and groups of people with significant achievements in the past that died long before they were born?

Gutterboy 07-23-2003 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
Different cultures can be ahead or behind others technologically/culturally at different times without it saying anything about the people themselves.
Thats a bit of a straw man. Cultures come and go, but thats not what I'm talking about. Anthropologists use 3 categories to define people: caucasiod, mongoloid, negroid. Most of the societies you've mentioned -- the romans, greeks, and arabs -- are caucasiod. One, the Chinese, is mongoloid.

There have been temporary shifts in technological advancement, but, and this is the important bit, they have ALL occoured EXCLUSIVELY within the caucasoid and mongoloid races.

The only group that has been universally left behind, without even the werewithal to create a written language, for the whole of history, is the negroid. The sub-saharan African.

Jesus, look at Liberia and S. Africa. They have both had all the advantages that the white man could have possibly bestowed upon them. We gave them a government, billions of dollars a year in aid, an infrastructure, and democracy. And what has happened? The same thing thats been going on in sub-saharan Africa for at least the last 7,000 years: a feral, tribal, anarchic society devoid of culture, a viable political system, and everything else which makes civilization civilized.

History provides the record, modern IQ tests provide the justification.

Odin88 07-23-2003 09:19 AM

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A very humorous and revealing story is ...
*looks to Europe* - *realises that Europe did not have black help* - *looks to Australia* - *realises Australia did it without black help* - *wonders*



:glugglug

Gutterboy 07-23-2003 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Bobby Vicious
A very humorous and revealing story is told about a group of white people who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined together and wished themselves away.
Bahahahahaha.

All of those "inventions" occured within the context of a white culture. Africans managed to invent some things only after being transported (against their will) to a white culture, educated in a white culture, given the advantages of white culture, and all the other benefits that come from being born in the United States.

Do you really think that some white guy wouldn't have put together a lawn sprinkler or peanut butter given the time?

:1orglaugh

Christ, stop fooling yourself.

As I said earlier, when a negro is given all the benefits that white liberals can give him, one or two of them may do something worthwhile. And thats if, and only if, you consider peanut butter and lawn sprinklers to be major technological advancements.. lol.

The rest would be.. uh.. as they pretty much are today.

Bobby Vicious 07-23-2003 09:27 AM

I just did a copy and paste just to fire up the tempest in a teapot. I can't vouch for the validity of them but thought it was interesting. Honestly I don't give a fuck who invented what. I am sure the comb was around long before some black guy invented it.:)

BRISK 07-23-2003 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


*looks to Europe* - *realises that Europe did not have black help* - *looks to Australia* - *realises Australia did it without black help* - *wonders*



:glugglug

Europeans had black slaves, especially Britain.

Australians (British/Irish immigrants) did horrible things to the aboriginals that were there. Even until as early as 35 years ago.

Nanda 07-23-2003 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


And what were the contributions in Germany or England during the times of Plato and Aristotle?

The Chinese would have thought the same thing of Europeans in the 1300s. The Europeans caught up.

Different cultures can be ahead or behind others technologically/culturally at different times without it saying anything about the people themselves.

This is so true, just like the Indians in central and South America, they had wealth, roads, they were so advanced until the europeans came over, raped their women, killed their men, and stole their gold! Every nation has it's ups and downs, it's glorious moment...

Bobby Vicious 07-23-2003 09:46 AM

There have been many great men and women throughout history what is important is to look at a persons acheivements and not their colour or ethnicity.

You should be proud of who you are and tolerant of all others.

Slavery was not invented by white men but by the ancestors of all men (and women). Prejudice was not created by white men but is present in all men.

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Troels
[B]
Mixing religion and rule will halt progress.B]
Spain did quite well. Very religious. Last I knew almost everyone on this side of the globe speaks Spanish.

jimmyf 07-23-2003 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Isn't that what the UN is for? The US is about war, not peace. Don't call us. Call the Almighty UN.

The US is the UN, without us NO UN. I wish we'd get out of the UN screw'em, let the bastards kill each other.

Bobby Vicious 07-23-2003 09:51 AM

BTW nice backshot Gutterboy :thumbsup

BRISK 07-23-2003 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
The US is the UN, without us NO UN.
Arrogance

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy


Thats a bit of a straw man. Cultures come and go, but thats not what I'm talking about. Anthropologists use 3 categories to define people: caucasiod, mongoloid, negroid. Most of the societies you've mentioned -- the romans, greeks, and arabs -- are caucasiod. One, the Chinese, is mongoloid.

My point is that those cultures flourished, succeeded, retreated, and perished regardless of the race or ethnicity of the people.

Which of those three "categories" is a native Australian by the way?

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK


Arrogance

I understand the thinking of many Americans on the UN issue. The US does not need the UN as much as say France in order to have influence on world events.

The UN is completely rigged in favor of the US though. Why would anyone would to back out of an organization that can only pass resolutions with the approval of their country? Think about it. The Security Council CANNOT pass a resolution that the US disagrees with. This organization is completely to the benefit of the permanent security council members.

BRISK 07-23-2003 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


I understand the thinking of many Americans on the UN issue. The US does not need the UN as much as say France in order to have influence on world events.

The UN is completely rigged in favor of the US though. Why would anyone would to back out of an organization that can only pass resolutions with the approval of their country? Think about it. The Security Council CANNOT pass a resolution that the US disagrees with. This organization is completely to the benefit of the permanent security council members.

France is a permanent member of the UN Security council, so is Russia, UK, and China.

http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/unsc_members.html

Troels 07-23-2003 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


Spain did quite well. Very religious. Last I knew almost everyone on this side of the globe speaks Spanish.

Did is the keyword here. I'm talking about today. And so were you.
Every country has had its religious period. Some outgrew it and flourish today. Some didn't.

The biggest muslim school in Denmark teaches children that the world is flat. I guess because the Koran says so...

Let's see if I can find the article. It's hilarious reading.

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK


France is a permanent member of the UN Security council, so is Russia, UK, and China.

http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/unsc_members.html

I know who the permanent security council members are.

I said "I understand the thinking of many Americans on the UN issue. The US does not need the UN as much as say France in order to have influence on world events."

I'd say that's true. The US does not need the security council as much as France does. In spite of that, the benefit to the US is still great. The UN gives the US more influence in the world than it would have otherwise, not less.

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Troels


Did is the keyword here. I'm talking about today. And so were you.

If you want to make a generalization that religious cultures cannot succeed because of the presence of religion, then it should also be true in the past too. Many religious cultures have been quite successful.

You would not have made that statement in the sixteenth century because it would have been true. Religion can have both positive and negative effects on the success of a culture.

BRISK 07-23-2003 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


I know who the permanent security council members are.

I said "I understand the thinking of many Americans on the UN issue. The US does not need the UN as much as say France in order to have influence on world events."

I'd say that's true. The US does not need the security council as much as France does. In spite of that, the benefit to the US is still great. The UN gives the US more influence in the world than it would have otherwise, not less.

Which is one of the reasons why the European Union was created. To have a collective influence on world politics instead of acting as individuals all the time.

Troels 07-23-2003 10:23 AM

Correction, it doesn't say its the largest muslim school in Denmark.

Can't find online translation of danish webpage, but headline is;
Islamic 'free'school teaches children that the earth is flat.
http://www.bt.dk/Soeg.pl?&aid=144766

Super follow-up article quoting Muslim Imam:
Earth Might Be Flat
http://www.bt.dk/Nyheder.pl?c=left&aid=144752

I know, it's amazing Arab countries are still throwing rocks with educational guidelines like these.

Imagine the Arab world without oil...

stevecore 07-23-2003 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Webby


Oh hell.. this is getting bad! :winkwink:

So nobody so far can come up with one single thing that US has done this century so far that has done any good to either the US population or any benefit to any other nation??? :1orglaugh

Sheesh!

i can.... we've been nice enough to only drop two nukes.

jimmyf 07-23-2003 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy

Quick, name your favorite African philosopher!

I didn't think so.

Now you know why.

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Why 07-23-2003 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by pheal


Pfff.. Gutterboy, every time you post here you show the world how stupid you are. STFU and go burn in hell you son of a bitch.

and you just go and have to show us how THIN your skin is. youd burn faster then he would....

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Troels

Imagine the Arab world without oil...

.. and terrorists.

Even with it they have small economies. GM's annual sales are greater than the annual GDP of Saudi Arabia.

jimmyf 07-23-2003 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK


Arrogance

you better fucking believe it.

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Troels

Super follow-up article quoting Muslim Imam:
Earth Might Be Flat
http://www.bt.dk/Nyheder.pl?c=left&aid=144752


Is that Danish? I can't read that ;-)

Troels 07-23-2003 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


If you want to make a generalization that religious cultures cannot succeed because of the presence of religion, then it should also be true in the past too. Many religious cultures have been quite successful.

You would not have made that statement in the sixteenth century because it would have been true. Religion can have both positive and negative effects on the success of a culture.

Ofcourse religious societies can evolve, but religion hinders free thought because it usually clashes with many religious thruths. As a consequence progress slows down considerably.

BRISK 07-23-2003 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


.. and terrorists.

Even with it they have small economies. GM's annual sales are greater than the annual GDP of Saudi Arabia.

GM = $187 billion

Saudi Arabia = $241 Billion

Troels 07-23-2003 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Colin



Is that Danish? I can't read that ;-)

Heh, I know. Too small a language to have any online translation services I'm afraid.
Ofcourse I know this is probably a very conservative school, and that not all muslim schools operate in this retarded way.

But as the article says, science today has proven things which clash on so many fronts with the Koran that it comes as a surprise why people can vouch for this.

And that goes for any religion I'm sure.

Religious 'hope' is fine. But this is 2003.
How can you go the step further and 'believe' in religion, and base your way of life, or even country, around it?

pornJester 07-23-2003 10:53 AM

15:glugglug

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK


GM = $187 billion

Saudi Arabia = $241 Billion

We used different definitions of GDP. You used Purchasing Power Parity (GDP) and I did not. Purchasing Power Parity is excellent for comparing standard of living indexes but not as good for comparing ability to purchase and sell goods (weapons?) and services.

To each their own.

Here?s the data from the Institute for Policy Studies paper on the world?s 100 largest economic entities.

http://www.ips-dc.org/downloads/Top_200.pdf

This data is a few years old (1999).

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Troels


How can you go the step further and 'believe' in religion, and base your way of life, or even country, around it?

It's an interesting question. I am a devout atheist myself. ;-)

Webby 07-23-2003 12:51 PM

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Dear impotent, the US is not interested in the dopey things YOU are interested in.
We don't give a fuck about the people of Afghanistan OR Iraq, we just mouth the words to make the silly little countries you live in go along with what we want.
We decided for our own defense, that it was time to conquer both countries. Mission accomplished.
sorry you don't like it but no one gives a fuck what you like.
kinda like the rest of your life.
I never realised that you actually represented the US as a spokesman on what others are interested in.

Nor did I realise it matters what I like, that you feel the need to comment on this.

If you were not so such a dumb aborted fetus maybe you could "try" and get this into your peabrain.

(a) I am actually... I hate to use the words, "with you" - these are not intended to imply you personally - but with the US and do not like the damage being caused to the country or to others.

(b) Your idiot opinion "we don't give a fuck about the people of Afghanistan OR Iraq" may be your opinion - it is not that of the vast majority within the US or other parts of the world.

(c) Another sign of your popcorn brain is that it may be news to your that it takes more than your stupid mouth "to make the silly little countries you live in go along with what we want." A lesson in geography and culture (that's a joke with you!!) would be beneficial since there is no such thing as a "silly little country" - just your lack of sight and *any* experience.

(d) There is a little more to your simplifed-2-second-retention-spam ability if you consider the "mission accomplished". News update for you - it's not accomplished!

You are irrelevant to any discussion on this subject - just an embarassment to your own country. People in many third world countries have an education exceeding your comprehension. You just don't matter!

Stuff your idiot comments up your ass and go :321GFY

Webby 07-23-2003 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88

Yes, as I hope it will prove a good example for the West. Perhaps those in Europe can learn from South Africa's example, and realise that Black's cannot manage a first world country! Upon realising, perhaps Europeans will secure their own future by restricting immigration.

If blacks, arabs, and hispanics take rule of the West (which is predicted to happen within 100 years - 50 years in America and Britian) it will be the end of Western Civilisation as we know it. You have to ask yourself; do you think it is a good idea for Europeans to become a minority in Europe? I don't!
Who breeds these animals.. na hell, that is derogatory to animals!

What's with this "European" stuff?? Look at who is managing the alledged top "first world country".

Na.. no comment.. just yet another aborted fetus! :1orglaugh

Bobby Vicious 07-23-2003 01:27 PM

:helpme

MI Jenny 07-23-2003 02:49 PM

Isn't Liberia a country made of US slaves ?
If it is, you might wanna help out some....

You can't relase a pet into the real world, it will die if
you don't teach it how to survive. So, go help the poor
people and teach them.

USA is the world Police and since US is the nice guys
that is just fine, someone needs to do it - if you didn't
we would have alot of shit in this world and that would
have affected US also.

Centurion 07-23-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88

Perhaps those in Europe can learn from South Africa's example, and realise that Black's cannot manage a first world country!

If blacks, arabs, and hispanics take rule of the West (which is predicted to happen within 100 years - 50 years in America and Britian) it will be the end of Western Civilisation as we know it.

You have to ask yourself; do you think it is a good idea for Europeans to become a minority in Europe? I don't!

For starters..you contradict yourself.

1)If black's cannot manage a first world country, how the heck are they going to take over Western Civilization then??

2)You are using your values to judge another country's setup and government to determine whether or not they are successful. It's that same tunnel vision that has gotten us into the Iraqi mess: And that is that EVERY country, no matter what it's culture or history, MUST have a democractic government to be deemed "legitimate" and "successful."

Sometimes even a "benign despot" works. If not..why does the U.S. support the governments of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kuwait, etc etc?

Kel 07-23-2003 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
maybe the UN should have sent tanks into flordia when there was a conflict about the polls there on the last presidential election.....
I'm all for this. I'm tired of the US (more specifically my tax dollars)
contributing to something it no longer benefits from.

-Kel

ADL Colin 07-23-2003 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MI Jenny
Isn't Liberia a country made of US slaves ?
If it is, you might wanna help out some....

No, all the US slaves are dead.


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