Too bad they didn't.

The good ol' US of A...

Damned if you do...

Damned if you don't!

It all kind of reminds me of college kids...

oh yeah off spending mom's and dad's money...

ignoring their parents' wishes and shit until they need to do laundry or pay for tuition...

making a phone call only when its in their own best interest...

and then their brothers and sisters bitch when they hear mom and dad sent extra money...

Mostly I think they simply don't want to give Quebec the satisfaction. But virtually every Canadian I've ever met and/or talked to can't stand Quebec or it's people. Mostly they'd just like you to either shut the fuck up or get it over with, secede already, and be gone.

Been to Quebec plenty myself, and I can't say I blame them. Absurdly arrogant and unfriendly people.... and even more so toward other Canadians that aren't from Quebec.

I've been all over Canada, and Quebec is the only place I'm damn sure I won't ever be going back to. The rest of Canada was great.

F IRAQ _ So GLAD to hear Saddams sons ar enow dead, hopefully they capture his ass and Bin Laden's ass put them both in a cage in the middle of NYC, and charge $5 bucks to piss on them. I would be the first on line!

IRAN YOUR NEXT!:ak47: :BangBang: :mad: :feels-hot :warning

Layoff Iran idiot...

their college students will probably take care of their present government within the next 1-5 years...

edit: Summer time, no school, i can't fuckin' spell!

I will lay off Iran no problem :) but if you call me an idiot next time spell it correctly ;):BangBang:

note taken will do:1orglaugh :thumbsup

One good thing about your poost is that you won't ever be going back to. :321GFY

Why not?

If the reasoning is that all these people (Including and especially the Iraqi's) are ungreatful bastards, why should we stay in a country where we're not liked, not wanted, and shot at?

Pretty damn hypocritical to say on one hand that we're NOT the world's policeman, but yet keep 140,000 troops in a country that offers no threat to our security.

You can't have it both ways. We don't give a fuck about them really do we? Isn't this survival of the "fittest" and nature's way of "thinning the herd"? Then get the troops out and let the mofos kill off each other instead of American soldiers.

I'm just backing up your "We're not the world's policeman" reasoning to the hilt!

oh don't get me wrong... I fully agree. We SHOULD pull out of there and let them destroy themselves. It'd probly only take a few weeks for them to completely annihilate each other anyway. But the ensuing crying from countries like France would be unbearable. If you listen carefully, you can almost hear the sniffling mounting...

Agreed :glugglug

You're so thoughtful not to upset the French that way.

Now go back and eat your freedom fries!:winkwink:

fuck france... I couldn't care less about those assholes. I'm just sick and tired of everyone whining everytime we do something.... so, obviously the best policy is to do nothing. Fuck it. Let these shitass countries fend for themselves.

Screw all that shit!

Nobody can rely on the US for one Freedom Fry!

Can you name one thing that US has done this century so far that has done any good to either the US population or any benefit to any other nation???

So far all they managed to do is fuck up Afghanistan and same with Iraq.

Yet.. at the same time we have some on this thread who consider the US is doing the world a favor??? DUH?? :1orglaugh

What about the women in Afghanistan that NOW have the freedom to show their faces? Isn't that one good thing? Oh, being able to see doctors, HELLO!!

The U.S. has helped to contain communist invasions all over the world, what more can the world ask for??

"Can you name one thing that US has done this century so far that has done any good to either the US population or any benefit to any other nation???"


The Internet.
Single handedly the best Invasionary weapon there is, a weapon that shows people what freedom of thought is about.

the USA is heaven, and george bush is god. GB4L

The internet itself isn't very much without the world wide web (WWW).

DUH??? Is that why 1000's ended up dead, the country now left in a worse condition than it was originally and is now governed, half by a puppet US leadership and half by "warlords" who are still backed by the US and now run a business producing about 75% of the world's heroin?

Sorry... but nice to see a reduction in the Taliban, but the "benefits" of US adventures don't quite square up with those who live there.

Any other good things the US has done "sucessfully"??

Is that what it was doing?? :1orglaugh Communist invasions eh?

One again the question is... Can you name one thing that US has done this century so far that has done any good to either the US population or any benefit to any other nation???

Three years is a pretty narrow window to give when you're expecting great changes... don't you think?

People have freedom of thought... that has been around a long time before anyone heard of the US or the Internet... :1orglaugh

No.. considering the damage that has been done , the 1000's of deaths, upheaval and billions in money dissipated in these three years... it is not unfair to think that there should be *some* benefit??

No, people do not have freedom of thought, especially us Americans. You have argued that point many, many times. Remember? We're sheep.

DUH? You don't have freedom of thought either? The rest of the world does. I don't know if you are a "sheep" or not - that all depends on your choice to use your freedom of thought.

And... No.. I have not argued any such crap about "Americans have no freedom of thought". Everyone does unless they, for example, choose to rely on CNN :1orglaugh

The original question was... Can you name one thing that US has done this century so far that has done any good to either the US population or any benefit to any other nation???

OK.. I'll assume it has actually done nothing so far till *anyone* can think of something valid.

In the meantime, all the BS about how great the US is and the sun shines outta its ass is meaningless. If I did that amount of "boasting" about my country of citizenship, they'd think I was mad.

Credit for one thing.. "some" US people got a tax rebate - thanks to Bush... suppose you could say that is something! :winkwink:

Sounds like a severe case of penis envy, Webby

Na I gave up the my-dick-is-bigger centuries ago! :winkwink:
I realised there was more to the world than dick size and envy - and I sure don't envy much in the US!

Looks like you can't think of much the US has done to benefit it's citizens or any other nation either?

Umm..umm..well..let me think..oh yeah..I know a couple of things!!
Someone got rid of Jimmy Hoffa!
'course the mob probably did that so the gov can't take credit for that.


oh..geez..there must be something..
I know.....MTV!! Where any child entering puberty can learn all the facts of life from one station!

Let's see the French top that!!:1orglaugh

Oh hell.. this is getting bad! :winkwink:

So nobody so far can come up with one single thing that US has done this century so far that has done any good to either the US population or any benefit to any other nation??? :1orglaugh

Sheesh!

your question is absurd and I can only imagine you haven't gotten a serious reply due to the sheer idiocy of it.

Being serious now, and I think this was crucial, especially at the beginning of the cold war.

And I'm talking about the Berlin Blockade back in 1948. Now I wasn't around then, but from everything I've read, it was perhaps the defining point in the cold war of how the U.S. would not be intimidated by the Ruskies.

In addition, we fed VERY hungry people in what was then West Berlin. PLUS, we kept West Berlin (and West Germany) out of the Ruskie hands.

EVERYONE benefited from that..except the Ruskies.

There is tons of stuff, but for some reason, this one popped into my head and I decided to go with it.

I think having JFK in the White House in the October 1962 Cuban Missile crisis was also a blessing. I SHUDDER to think of what some idiot like G.W. would have done had he been prez then!

And godbless Bobby Kennedy! (I'll save any specifics on that one till another time. grin)

Of course it would be absurd... that is the standard method of defence - attack the basis. :1orglaugh

So still no answer to *anything* the US has done this century to benefit US citizens or anyone else?

The question is *very* simple - since there are many "claims", but bottom like is - what exactly have the US Admin done???

Ok..here's something that WASN'T political, and that was the eradication of small pox world wide!

Now the irony is that we're afraid of this disease being used against us!

Centurion:

OK! Don't have to be political! Anything will do! :winkwink:

But how did the US eradicate smallpox world wide? :)

And if they can lay claim to that, tis worth half point cos that did not happen this century!

So far we got:

1. Tax cut to some US citizens.
2. Maybe some claim to eradication of smallpox....??

"we"
"us"
"them"

this is the sort of shit that keeps us killing each other at the command of others. bad bad bad.

"We" are "good"... "Us" are "superior"... "them" are the demons from "shit countries" who need to be nuked.

And yup! Bad! :thumbsup

Webby,

Too easy!

The US has spearheaded a worldwide campaign against terrorism which has caused a disruption of terrorist operations and lead to the seizing of funds and arrest of many of the top al Qaeda operatives.

The US is involved is in and leading anti-terrorism measures all over the globe including having formed joint anti-terrorism working groups with many governments including Pakistan and Russia. I?m sure if you do a little research you will find more and note the tremendous resources the US government is putting into the disruption of terrorism and especially terrorist organizations.

The US Department of State publishes an annual terrorism report. Last year's report shows that terrorist attacks worldwide decreased more than 40% last year and
there were less terrorist attacks worldwide than since 1979.

You have to be a pretty twisted fella to try and twist this great good around but I'm sure you will try. What will it be? The report is unreliable? It's only 2003, wait a few years? Less terrorism is not good for the world?

Colin:

OK!! That's a good start.. the best yet! :thumbsup

There are obviously good elements to that - the slight problem with it is:

(a) it involved the killing of many thousands of innocent people - many thousands more than the 9/11 casualties.

(b) it caused, and is still causing, great hardship to 1000's more.

(c) it totally screwed any international standing of the US.

(d) it cost the US billions of taxpayers money.

(e) it killed US troops and still does, - decimating their families.

(f) it was based on .. most likely lies, but certainly half truths.

(g) it destroyed the countries involved and left a void for far greater problems than those that existed in the first instance.

Na.. could go on! Back to the bottom line. There have been successes for sure! However, because a few idiots.. call em "terrorists" are active, does that justify all the deaths and damage??? Al-Queda is not "terminated" - never will be unless their is some mindbending. The Taliban gone? The Iraqi people like this "liberation"? It is becoming clearer each day they were better off under Saddam.

It is also not that hard to see there are other motives involved in this "war against terrorism" - I doubt it would get the support if there was not a "hoped" monitory benefit in the end.

BUT... yep.. in the middle of this, there have been good elements... so gotta be worth a point!

1. Tax cut to some US citizens.
2. Maybe some claim to eradication of smallpox....??????
3. For the actual successes against terrorism, but maybe 50 points lost for the damage this has caused globally.