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Old 07-22-2003, 04:03 AM   #51
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Old 07-22-2003, 04:27 AM   #52
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No that made no sense...

And no, I/we won't buy content at your price from Russia. You are too expensive for where you are based. It will work out cheaper if I fly to Russia and hire the models myself. It's got nothing to do with how good a photographer you are but how cheap I can get content. I'd only buy from you to make a significant saving. Come up with a realistic price, and I'll buy from you instead.
How much video and photo to you it is necessary?
I can sell you 20 hours exclusive video (40 films...30 minutes in each film) for $14500 on master cassettes (MiniDV)...

You may travel in Russia and try to buy the models by itself... I am an sell to you models for shootings for $40 each (don`t paying for model work)...
The Explanation: Most Big Model Data Base only beside me!
Much producers buy models near by me (you may check this in practice)...

I am ready to co-operate and talk of prices if you will tell volume...
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Old 07-22-2003, 04:44 AM   #53
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How much video and photo to you it is necessary?
I can sell you 20 hours exclusive video (40 films...30 minutes in each film) for $14500 on master cassettes (MiniDV)...

You may travel in Russia and try to buy the models by itself... I am an sell to you models for shootings for $40 each (don`t paying for model work)...
The Explanation: Most Big Model Data Base only beside me!
Much producers buy models near by me (you may check this in practice)...

I am ready to co-operate and talk of prices if you will tell volume...
20 hours of video you've already shot is not much use mate. I'm looking for niche stuff which I guarantee you've not got. And the model stuff... She would have to be wearing one of our t-shirts in the photo ID pics to prove that you've at least shot them yourself. 20 hours for $14,500 is a joke. You're saying your stuff is worth $725 a hour? Hello... you are based in Russia. You've just stated $40 for a model but said they wouldn't work for that a few posts back. You just don't get it mate. With your location and the outlay you have to make, you could be making a tidy profit without trying to flog at western prices.

You're ready to talk prices ? Anyone who tries overcharging so much from the start, I'm not going to go any further with and discuss prices.
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20 hours of video you've already shot is not much use mate. I'm looking for niche stuff which I guarantee you've not got. And the model stuff... She would have to be wearing one of our t-shirts in the photo ID pics to prove that you've at least shot them yourself. 20 hours for $14,500 is a joke. You're saying your stuff is worth $725 a hour? Hello... you are based in Russia. You've just stated $40 for a model but said they wouldn't work for that a few posts back. You just don't get it mate. With your location and the outlay you have to make, you could be making a tidy profit without trying to flog at western prices.

You're ready to talk prices ? Anyone who tries overcharging so much from the start, I'm not going to go any further with and discuss prices.
You don`t tell volume... You may travel to Russia and shoots... no problem... ID`s and MR - no problem... You logo on each models -no problem... shoots on you scenario - no problem...

You don`t talk with me on deal - no problem!
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We buy sometimes from russia, but at the moment at a very limited level, because most of the quality from there sucks and for the rest they have prices in mind which are a "bit" to high
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I saw material of the Russian producer on your site - this junk very low quality... Possible I mistaken... show me sample please...
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You don`t tell volume... You may travel to Russia and shoots... no problem... ID`s and MR - no problem... You logo on each models -no problem... shoots on you scenario - no problem...

You don`t talk with me on deal - no problem!
Re-read my last post. You are still looking at the ONE big customer angle to make your money, which to me is a bit red alert button because it sounds like your are going to suddenly dissappear shortly afterwards. Sort your prices out and *some* wm's will deal with you. I could be looking for 10 pics or 100,000 pics - why should that make a difference to the prices you are showing on your site at present? You charge what you want, it's your business... I'm saying you are a Russian supplier who has access to cheap models and do not have the overheads of western webmasters, but you are trying to compete in an already over saturated content market at western prices.

The point was not about me coming to Russia, and if I do, I'll go through my friend's contact who's English and lives there because I don't want to be mis-placed at the bottom of a river somewhere...

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Mixphoto, anyway $3 per one hardcore photo is too much.
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Old 07-22-2003, 05:47 AM   #58
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Mixphoto, anyway $3 per one hardcore photo is too much.
I sell 1 (hardcore boy/ girl) set (100 images +bonus ~30 images)with full right for $300...
300:130=2.3-2.4...
$2.4 - high price for exclusive?!
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Old 07-22-2003, 05:59 AM   #59
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I sale no problem model moscow with to make photo receller? Quote on invoice much most dollars? 1? 59? 100? 100+?

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I sell 1 (hardcore boy/ girl) set (100 images +bonus ~30 images)with full right for $300...
300:130=2.3-2.4...
$2.4 - high price for exclusive?!
Overpriced... Have a look at a few webmaster prices or even Prostock's site. I can go there and get GOOD quality hardcore exclusive for $1.5 and that's without any discounts. You are way over priced for where you are based... if you want a figure - I'd be looking at paying around you $0.60 max for b/g exclusive. Why? because models cost fuck all where you are from, you don't have the overheads, and it would still pay you more than the average russian monthly salary. FOR example how much do cigarattes cost in your country? Here they cost around £4.65 ($7.00) per packet $42.00 ($70) per carton! Would you buy cigarettes from me at that price? Get a clue.... it's no differnt than importing cars etc....
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I sell 1 (hardcore boy/ girl) set (100 images +bonus ~30 images)with full right for $300...
300:130=2.3-2.4...
$2.4 - high price for exclusive?!
Pretty high for me... I'll buy exclusive content for $1-$1.5 per photo (hardcore sure).
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Overpriced... Have a look at a few webmaster prices or even Prostock's site. I can go there and get GOOD quality hardcore exclusive for $1.5 and that's without any discounts. You are way over priced for where you are based... if you want a figure - I'd be looking at paying around you $0.60 max for b/g exclusive. Why? because models cost fuck all where you are from, you don't have the overheads, and it would still pay you more than the average russian monthly salary. FOR example how much do cigarattes cost in your country? Here they cost around £4.65 ($7.00) per packet $42.00 ($70) per carton! Would you buy cigarettes from me at that price? Get a clue.... it's no differnt than importing cars etc....
You live in Russia?!
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Pretty high for me... I'll buy exclusive content for $1-$1.5 per photo (hardcore sure).
How much?
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errr....
1.5$ for exclusive ?

What kind of shit do You get for this money and how exclusive can it be?

If an hour is even 100$ per model and You need 2 (boy + girl) than 1 hour model time is 200$ already.

Say You got 100 pics out of that - they cant go cheaper than 2$ each right?

Not my business of course, but when it comes to GOOD or PERFECT exclusive content at USA providers and photographers it goes as high as 10$ per each photo.

In case You wonder I mean www.bestadultcontent.com for example and such quality.

When in Russia teen hardcore boy+girl comes at 3$ per photo and the quality is the same.
It just depends where You buy it and if You know correct people.
But correct people are also shoot this stuff from Russia for offline USA magazines like Penthouse for example and have their schedule booked for weeks usually.
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errr....
1.5$ for exclusive ?

What kind of shit do You get for this money and how exclusive can it be?

If an hour is even 100$ per model and You need 2 (boy + girl) than 1 hour model time is 200$ already.

Say You got 100 pics out of that - they cant go cheaper than 2$ each right?

Not my business of course, but when it comes to GOOD or PERFECT exclusive content at USA providers and photographers it goes as high as 10$ per each photo.

In case You wonder I mean www.bestadultcontent.com for example and such quality.

When in Russia teen hardcore boy+girl comes at 3$ per photo and the quality is the same.
It just depends where You buy it and if You know correct people.
But correct people are also shoot this stuff from Russia for offline USA magazines like Penthouse for example and have their schedule booked for weeks usually.

Thanks!
$1.5 per image .... possible for order more than 30000 photographies
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10 images.... I may present for you...
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Not needed I just asked
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errr....
1.5$ for exclusive ?

What kind of shit do You get for this money and how exclusive can it be?

If an hour is even 100$ per model and You need 2 (boy + girl) than 1 hour model time is 200$ already.

Say You got 100 pics out of that - they cant go cheaper than 2$ each right?

Not my business of course, but when it comes to GOOD or PERFECT exclusive content at USA providers and photographers it goes as high as 10$ per each photo.

In case You wonder I mean www.bestadultcontent.com for example and such quality.

When in Russia teen hardcore boy+girl comes at 3$ per photo and the quality is the same.
It just depends where You buy it and if You know correct people.
But correct people are also shoot this stuff from Russia for offline USA magazines like Penthouse for example and have their schedule booked for weeks usually.
So you are saying that it's more expensive in Russia for content than it is in the US? give me a break... and they do go cheaper than $2 here. How Exclusive - FULL exclusive and good enough quality for what I want it for. It doesn't cost Mixphoto $100 a hour... Look a few posts back, he was willing to let me have models at $40... which contradicted another previous statement. I know of someone in RUSSIA shooting content and he's alread told me what he pays models. US/UK prices ARE expected to be higher...but you can still find people to do it at lower price if you look around. GIVE ME A REASON to deal with a Russian content supplier who is selling at a higher price than I can already get it?

Prostock has already said he's shot content there and knows the model's rate, I know someone there shooting content at those rates... You're trying to tell me MixPhoto is paying at least 8 times more than what other people are paying?

OH and I've had an ex-playboy photographer shoot Exclusive magazine quality content for me for less than $10 a hour... each to their own, hey.

BTW http://www.content2die4.com/ from $1 guess someone can do exclusive for $1 and $1.50 for hardcore...

This is not about who shoots the best pics... it was about the best price. Hence I'm looking away from local sources to get it cheaper. I'm not interested in 'Penthouse' quality pics... besides magazines use the photos in a different way and have a total different budget - Print is more expensive... I'll stick to my current sources I think - Russians in this thread are obvisouly too fucking greedy.
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So you are saying that it's more expensive in Russia for content than it is in the US? give me a break... and they do go cheaper than $2 here. How Exclusive - FULL exclusive and good enough quality for what I want it for. It doesn't cost Mixphoto $100 a hour... Look a few posts back, he was willing to let me have models at $40... which contradicted another previous statement. I know of someone in RUSSIA shooting content and he's alread told me what he pays models. US/UK prices ARE expected to be higher...but you can still find people to do it at lower price if you look around. GIVE ME A REASON to deal with a Russian content supplier who is selling at a higher price than I can already get it?

Prostock has already said he's shot content there and knows the model's rate, I know someone there shooting content at those rates... You're trying to tell me MixPhoto is paying at least 8 times more than what other people are paying?

OH and I've had an ex-playboy photographer shoot Exclusive magazine quality content for me for less than $10 a hour... each to their own, hey.

BTW http://www.content2die4.com/ from $1 guess someone can do exclusive for $1 and $1.50 for hardcore...

This is not about who shoots the best pics... it was about the best price. Hence I'm looking away from local sources to get it cheaper. I'm not interested in 'Penthouse' quality pics... besides magazines use the photos in a different way and have a total different budget - Print is more expensive... I'll stick to my current sources I think - Russians in this thread are obvisouly too fucking greedy.

I don`t tell what pay model $40... I can give you models for $40 as Model Agency... (payments for work not inclusion !!!)...

You have photographers who shoots for $10? I can give work for him! You want have normal quality on low price? No problem! Prostock have non expensive content...

I producer and want sell my products per normal price!
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I don`t tell what pay model $40... I can give you models for $40 as Model Agency... (payments for work not inclusion !!!)...

You have photographers who shoots for $10? I can give work for him! You want have normal quality on low price? No problem! Prostock have non expensive content...

I producer and want sell my products per normal price!
The $10 per hour was fucking a fucking typo - should have been $10 per pic... That was for high quality stuff off a PROFESSIONAL photographer with many years in the biz and references to back it up. Because that's what I wanted at the time... Same as before, I can get western guys to do it cheaper than you, not worth me discussing anything further with you.

You don't understand what I've been writing.... the differences between costs. BTW your site is new isn't it?

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dude you are so fucking nutts ,

any of you that want videos from us all day freaking long we will shoot the same that he is talking about 20 videos all 50 minutes plus and all with 200 photos for 7000.00
i treally think thaat is a big dif from what you are asking there is not one person in there right fucking mind will pay you that , you are one fucked up russian
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Check out our shop and I guess you can esaily figure out which modells are from russia, ukraine etc.

Regarding the price we are paying for it. Let me say it in this way, if I will buy them blind 0.2 Cents per photo, if I can select them probably a little bit more
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Check out our shop and I guess you can esaily figure out which modells are from russia, ukraine etc.

Regarding the price we are paying for it. Let me say it in this way, if I will buy them blind 0.2 Cents per photo, if I can select them probably a little bit more


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dude you are so fucking nutts ,

any of you that want videos from us all day freaking long we will shoot the same that he is talking about 20 videos all 50 minutes plus and all with 200 photos for 7000.00
i treally think thaat is a big dif from what you are asking there is not one person in there right fucking mind will pay you that , you are one fucked up russian
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Wow looks like i can raise my prices by alot!!!!! This is great news!!!!!

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Check out our shop and I guess you can esaily figure out which modells are from russia, ukraine etc.

Regarding the price we are paying for it. Let me say it in this way, if I will buy them blind 0.2 Cents per photo, if I can select them probably a little bit more
I check your site... I don`t look content with russian models...
Send me url please...
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any of you that want videos from us all day freaking long we will shoot the same that he is talking about 20 videos all 50 minutes plus and all with 200 photos for 7000.00
i treally think thaat is a big dif from what you are asking there is not one person in there right fucking mind will pay you that , you are one fucked up russian

I know why your material do not buy!!!
You not to know how to speak of deal!
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I was under the impression it was

$50 per DAY for softcore (6 hour shoot) and $75 for hardcore.

That info came from a UK webmaster at a London meeting who has moved out there... and he's not based in Moscow. It's a shame he won't shoot content for other people...

Gimmy - what's an average yearly income there?

Prostock - I like your stuff, I'm just not working the Asian niche at present, but when I do - I'll be in touch.
$50/ a day?? Maybe some crack whore in Moscow would agree for that price, but not normal looking girls. And dont forget that Moscow is among the most expensive cities. Those prices I gave are just an approximation, but thats how much they cost. But thats in Moscow, outside the city in some small town, they are dirt cheap.

The average yearly income there is about $250 per month
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Wow looks like i can raise my prices by alot!!!!! This is great news!!!!!

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$50/ a day?? Maybe some crack whore in Moscow would agree for that price, but not normal looking girls. And dont forget that Moscow is among the most expensive cities. Those prices I gave are just an approximation, but thats how much they cost. But thats in Moscow, outside the city in some small town, they are dirt cheap.

The average yearly income there is about $250 per month
I know country where incom at month little more $3...
You can make content in these country.... this content will have very low price and very low sell ))
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$50/ a day?? Maybe some crack whore in Moscow would agree for that price, but not normal looking girls. And dont forget that Moscow is among the most expensive cities. Those prices I gave are just an approximation, but thats how much they cost. But thats in Moscow, outside the city in some small town, they are dirt cheap.

The average yearly income there is about $250 per month
Like I said mate, wasn't Moscow.... yeah I know Moscow is more expensive. He should be looking for models outside Moscow then, MUCH cheaper ;)

Now you know where I was going with the yearly/monthly income shit... IF a $250 a month is an average salary... $100 for ONE DAY is not a bad income is it...;)
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Like I said mate, wasn't Moscow.... yeah I know Moscow is more expensive. He should be looking for models outside Moscow then, MUCH cheaper ;)

Now you know where I was going with the yearly/monthly income shit... IF a $250 a month is an average salary... $100 for ONE DAY is not a bad income is it...;)
well in Moscow, the salary drastically varies with people. I mean some people make like $100 a month and some $50,000. There is a big contrast between poor and the rich, unlike in the U.S.
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DJR, my intention was not to hijack mix's thread but just to throw a comment at him that he's on the high end of the price scale.

My group only does girl solo and girl girl exclusive right now, if your interested in that hit me on email or icq..
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Like I said mate, wasn't Moscow.... yeah I know Moscow is more expensive. He should be looking for models outside Moscow then, MUCH cheaper ;)

Now you know where I was going with the yearly/monthly income shit... IF a $250 a month is an average salary... $100 for ONE DAY is not a bad income is it...;)
Need to change your incom on incom of the russian peasant...
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Need to change your incom on incom of the russian peasant...
You Agree?! Yes... No (Don`t work)... Ok
WTF U on about?

and no... it's increased since the last time I checked... was around $100 a month - still no biggy. And I'm not after slagging off Russians either, simply after making a good deal all round - not having the piss taken out of me. I reakon there will be more people in Moscow earning closer to $100 than $50,000 yes...No Dont work. You are still over charging regardless.

Russia's a big country, you trying to say only Moscow hires models?
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WTF U on about?

and no... it's increased since the last time I checked... was around $100 a month - still no biggy. And I'm not after slagging off Russians either, simply after making a good deal all round - not having the piss taken out of me. I reakon there will be more people in Moscow earning closer to $100 than $50,000 yes...No Dont work. You are still over charging regardless.

Russia's a big country, you trying to say only Moscow hires models?
You it is necessary to learn to consider their own incoms and you will be rich... I did not ask you to peer into my pocket!!!
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You it is necessary to learn to consider their own incoms and you will be rich... I did not ask you to peer into my pocket!!!
Listen mate.... you charge what you want, you could have had instant business if the price was right. There's always someone else who's more accomodating. I'm not interested in the contents of your pocket.... but I am interested in the contents of mine and I'm not paying more than I have to.
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hello everyone.. just a quick note to welcome content buyers who are interested in russian content to please check out: Russia Direct at http://www.pornlisting.net

reasonable prices, sets priced at $15

http://www.pornlisting.net





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Listen mate.... you charge what you want, you could have had instant business if the price was right. There's always someone else who's more accomodating. I'm not interested in the contents of your pocket.... but I am interested in the contents of mine and I'm not paying more than I have to.

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hello everyone.. just a quick note to welcome content buyers who are interested in russian content to please check out: Russia Direct at http://www.pornlisting.net

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thanks
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Thanks!
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