Cookie sales vs. instant sales. - GoFuckYourself.com

Sly_RJ · 07-20-2003, 08:47 PM

Another thread brought up programs like Evidence Eliminator and how the program is designed to erase cookies on the users computer. Someone went on to question whether or not this would have an impact on sales.

As affiliates, how many of your sales are directly from cookies? I know that I get a few "bookmark" sales, not quite sure if that's the same as a cookie sale.

Any thoughts?

Manga1 · 07-20-2003, 08:49 PM

Doesn't Evidence Eliminator track affiliate sales with cookies?

Sly_RJ · 07-20-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Manga1
Doesn't Evidence Eliminator track affiliate sales with cookies?

Sure, but you need to run the program first before it will clear cookies.

besterman · 07-20-2003, 08:51 PM

Yes it would, I estimate up to 25%. Also depends how you do the sales funnel. Obviously if it's just a redirect, without a cookie, the ccbill code for example will not credit your sale. That's why many programs I've seen are starting to use server-side cookies.

Manga1 · 07-20-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Sure, but you need to run the program first before it will clear cookies.

Yea, maybe it's just me, but I still find it kinda funny.

Matt 26z · 07-20-2003, 09:00 PM

I think the real issue here is which sponsors rely only on cookies, and which ones use cookie and variable tracking?

If a surfer clicks on whatever.com?id=myid and it bookmarks that actual addy, then you get credit if he signs up a month later no matter what spyware removal tools he used.

But if he clicks on a link pointing to whatever.com?id=myid, and the sponsor redirects to whatever.com and then begins tracking via cookies... that means when bookmarked, it shows up as whatever.com WITHOUT the tracking id.

This is of course a problem if a) the cookie was set to expire or b) the cookie got deleted in one of the many increasing ways.

stevo · 07-20-2003, 09:03 PM

And thats why its best to use sponsors with server side includes or whatever, as long as they keep the affiliate id in the url throughout the tour!

BrettJ · 07-20-2003, 09:08 PM

unless of the course the surfer is a dick... like i used to be ...and back out any fancy code .... like things after ? marks ...

Adult Site Traffic · 07-20-2003, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Manga1
Doesn't Evidence Eliminator track affiliate sales with cookies?

That's about the deal there

Webmasters selling cookie killers and paysites from the same page , hmmm.

I had a sponsor one time that was actually exiting pay site traffic to one ;)

Get the sale while they're there, or forget it..

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Sausage · 07-20-2003, 09:15 PM

In most cases bookmark traffic will still be credited to you unless you use one of the sponsors which drops a cookie on the surfers pc, and then redirects to a 'clean' tour page. I have promoted evidence eraser for some time now, and haven't noticed any difference in sales.

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Manga1 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Malakiaville Posts: 952	Doesn't Evidence Eliminator track affiliate sales with cookies?

07-20-2003, 08:51 PM	#4
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	Yes it would, I estimate up to 25%. Also depends how you do the sales funnel. Obviously if it's just a redirect, without a cookie, the ccbill code for example will not credit your sale. That's why many programs I've seen are starting to use server-side cookies.

07-20-2003, 09:00 PM	#6
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I think the real issue here is which sponsors rely only on cookies, and which ones use cookie and variable tracking? If a surfer clicks on whatever.com?id=myid and it bookmarks that actual addy, then you get credit if he signs up a month later no matter what spyware removal tools he used. But if he clicks on a link pointing to whatever.com?id=myid, and the sponsor redirects to whatever.com and then begins tracking via cookies... that means when bookmarked, it shows up as whatever.com WITHOUT the tracking id. This is of course a problem if a) the cookie was set to expire or b) the cookie got deleted in one of the many increasing ways.

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stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	And thats why its best to use sponsors with server side includes or whatever, as long as they keep the affiliate id in the url throughout the tour!

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BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	unless of the course the surfer is a dick... like i used to be ...and back out any fancy code .... like things after ? marks ...