V i s a to .75 of 1% !!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Resolute · 07-18-2003, 03:24 AM

Who would believe this -

Visa reduces chargeback ratios to .75 or .50 of 1%

Recurring billing is abolished

Strap youselves in for a bumpy ride .

Stay Tuned

Amputate Your Head · 07-18-2003, 03:25 AM

I hope you're hypothesizing or at least on crack or something...

funkmaster · 07-18-2003, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute
Who would believe this -

Visa reduces chargeback ratios to .75 or .50 of 1%

Recurring billing is abolished

Strap youselves in for a bumpy ride .

Stay Tuned

... by march 2004 the last ISPS will get out of buiz, mark my words.

KRL · 07-18-2003, 03:39 AM

AWW - Kevin · 07-18-2003, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... by march 2004 the last ISPS will get out of buiz, mark my words.

the end ?

The Other Steve · 07-18-2003, 03:52 AM

Where's that Doors song ....

funkmaster · 07-18-2003, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by The Other Steve
Where's that Doors song ....

there you go<EMBED SRC="http://artists.iuma.com/site-bin/streammp3.m3u?320859" WIDTH=0 HEIGHT=0 AUTOSTART=TRUE LOOP=0>

The Other Steve · 07-18-2003, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

there you go<EMBED SRC="http://artists.iuma.com/site-bin/streammp3.m3u?320859" WIDTH=0 HEIGHT=0 AUTOSTART=TRUE LOOP=0>

THAT'S THE ONE

res · 07-18-2003, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AWW - Kevin

the end ?

Each good sponsor can to buy own merchant account and to build fraud-control

=^..^= · 07-18-2003, 05:43 AM

No Fear
Jesus Dialer will save us all!..
the second coming is nigh!

chowda · 07-18-2003, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... by march 2004 the last ISPS will get out of buiz, mark my words.

oh great prophet, what will come after these processors?

jeroman · 07-18-2003, 05:50 AM

That's my limit.
Past 6 months 0.75% with ccbill but I'm from europe and
it's still 2.5% there :-))

It will be 1% chargeback ratio soon for US then
the account holder has 6 months on him to fix
so it will be lower. Thats not so hard.

Where did you get the 0,5% from ?????????

Gutterboy · 07-18-2003, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda

oh great prophet, what will come after these processors?

wizz · 07-18-2003, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by res

Each good sponsor can to buy own merchant account and to build fraud-control

Agree merchant account and fraud control !

the real magoo · 07-18-2003, 05:57 AM

It´s pretty obvious that VISA does not want to have anything to do with the awful adult webmasters. They want us to build shopping sites where people can buy lollipops and barbie dolls.

We need something new here, like mobile phone billing ?

Carrie · 07-18-2003, 07:04 AM

SMS billing is the shit - they've got it all over the place in Europe. You can even use it to get a can of soda out of a soda machine!
But do the idiots in the US approve this and let us use it? Noooo... arrghh.

ADL Colin · 07-18-2003, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the real magoo
It´s pretty obvious that VISA does not want to have anything to do with the awful adult webmasters. They want us to build shopping sites where people can buy lollipops and barbie dolls.

We need something new here, like mobile phone billing ?

Why not just ban adult sites transactions then like AMEX?

ELFugo · 07-18-2003, 07:17 AM

Mobile phone billing works quite good in poland. It's more easily to send sms than to pay with the credit card.
And, i know that poland is a completely different market.

HardProfits · 07-18-2003, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute
Who would believe this -

Visa reduces chargeback ratios to .75 or .50 of 1%

Recurring billing is abolished

Strap youselves in for a bumpy ride .

Stay Tuned

Hey Resolute

One of two things I need to say here. Either:

1) You have been downing a few too many cocktails, and you thought this was a good way to get your sig noticed, or

2) You have received information from someone you trust, but havent bothered confirming the info with people like me first.

If this is a fact (and that is a big "IF" at this stage), then I havent heard about it from my many sources.

So, b4 this thread gets out of hand, would you mind giving me a buzz sometime so I can start cross referencing your info.

I too have been sitting on some mighty info, but b4 scaring the bejesus out of everyone I try to get multiple confirmations first.

And on that point, every time I have received any billing info, I have always called you to advise you. So to be honest, I am not sure what is happening here?

And to add much more to all of that, you know I have a copy of the latest VisaNet regulalations that are coming into force on October 1, and there is no mention of chargeback rates going this low

Mate - all I am saying is that your post is very confusing, and midly unsettling. Not for what you are saying, but in how you are saying it.

Centurion · 07-18-2003, 08:57 AM

Will the last adult site closing it's doors please turn out the lights?

NETbilling · 07-18-2003, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by res

Each good sponsor can to buy own merchant account and to build fraud-control

No need to do that. Netbilling set's up the merchant account, does the scrubbing, and the customer service too.

Mitch

BRISK · 07-18-2003, 10:38 AM

The dream is over

The sky is falling

*fills out McDonald's application*

twistyneck · 07-18-2003, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ELFugo
Mobile phone billing works quite good in poland. It's more easily to send sms than to pay with the credit card.
And, i know that poland is a completely different market.

They invented screen doors for submarines, I would hardly look to Poland for a solution to anything.

Boca · 07-18-2003, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling

No need to do that. Netbilling set's up the merchant account, does the scrubbing, and the customer service too.

Mitch

CUSTOMER SERVICE?
YOU ARE A CANCELLING SERVICE COMPANY!
DO NOT FUCK WITH ME!

quiet · 07-18-2003, 12:39 PM

i'll raise a glass the day it's all over

KingK7 · 07-18-2003, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boca

CUSTOMER SERVICE?
YOU ARE A CANCELLING SERVICE COMPANY!
DO NOT FUCK WITH ME!

Left side of your keyboard, the buttons that says "Caps Lock".
Push once.

NETbilling · 07-18-2003, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boca

CUSTOMER SERVICE?
YOU ARE A CANCELLING SERVICE COMPANY!
DO NOT FUCK WITH ME!

Yes we do have a call center to handle all of your cancellations, etc...

Mitch

Resolute · 07-18-2003, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the real magoo
It´s pretty obvious that VISA does not want to have anything to do with the awful adult webmasters. They want us to build shopping sites where people can buy lollipops and barbie dolls.

We need something new here, like mobile phone billing ?

2 Funny but may be 2 True !!

Snake Doctor · 07-18-2003, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin

Why not just ban adult sites transactions then like AMEX?

Because with Visa and MC there are a lot more hands in the cookie jar than with AMEX.
With AMEX there are no banks involved, it's AMEX itself that pays you for what the cardholer charges and then collects from the cardholder.

If I'm not mistaken Discover operates pretty much the same way.

Resolute · 07-18-2003, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardProfits

Hey Resolute

One of two things I need to say here. Either:

1) You have been downing a few too many cocktails, and you thought this was a good way to get your sig noticed, or

2) You have received information from someone you trust, but havent bothered confirming the info with people like me first.

If this is a fact (and that is a big "IF" at this stage), then I havent heard about it from my many sources.

So, b4 this thread gets out of hand, would you mind giving me a buzz sometime so I can start cross referencing your info.

I too have been sitting on some mighty info, but b4 scaring the bejesus out of everyone I try to get multiple confirmations first.

And on that point, every time I have received any billing info, I have always called you to advise you. So to be honest, I am not sure what is happening here?

And to add much more to all of that, you know I have a copy of the latest VisaNet regulalations that are coming into force on October 1, and there is no mention of chargeback rates going this low

Mate - all I am saying is that your post is very confusing, and midly unsettling. Not for what you are saying, but in how you are saying it.

Thanks for you considered and detailed response. I wouldn't expect anything less from you - "Evil" Dan.

My response to your points follow -

I don't drink.

I really not at liberty to say anymore, for now. I mealy asked the question, to see if anyone else had been privy to this info and in an attempt to double confirm same. If they did via ICQ/e mail I then planned to discuss further with a couple of people, including yourself, prior to making a statement.

In the rapidly changing environment we now operate, opportunities are lost by the time you obtained Iron Clad confirmations from various sources on any particular issue. Again I draw you attention to the nature of the post - Question not Statement.

The latest tightening up of regs by Visa may just be a prelude to further tightening. That is once they have softened us up to 1% why not make it .75 or .50 of 1%- if they can get away with it ?
They seem to be doing this just fine without any significant problems. Like the old saying " Give them an inch and they will take a mile" They would not announce a lower percentage rate till they get everyone to below 1%. One step at a time. .in a very surgical plan.

I am sorry if you find my post "mildly upsetting" by to be forewarned is to be forearmed! By raising the question and to engender discussion on same is better than lying down and passively - "Taking It"

.....again it was just a question !

You're still my (Straight-ish) Aussie Mate "Evil" Dan. As I'm sure you are to many, wise webmasters that are part of Hard Profits.

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
[email protected]
ICQ 325624405

HardProfits · 07-18-2003, 11:24 PM

Hey Resolute

So I can just confirm for all the folks out there in never never land, that you are putting up thoughts and not facts rearding the reduction of the 1% chargeback rate - correct?

BTW - If you every need the inside run on what is happening in Billing, you know you can always ask me 1st. When have I ever not given you my time to shed light on the vast array of billing issues confronting us?

Dont get me wrong mate, I am not mad at you - just concerned that you would post something like that. You see I have taken a second and third look at your original post on this thread, and it really reads like a statement, not a question

Anyways, back to being Evil

Only 11 sleeps till I fly from down under to the land of great friends and significant opportunity (aka InterNext)

Resolute · 07-18-2003, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardProfits
Hey Resolute

So I can just confirm for all the folks out there in never never land, that you are putting up thoughts and not facts rearding the reduction of the 1% chargeback rate - correct?

BTW - If you every need the inside run on what is happening in Billing, you know you can always ask me 1st. When have I ever not given you my time to shed light on the vast array of billing issues confronting us?

Dont get me wrong mate, I am not mad at you - just concerned that you would post something like that. You see I have taken a second and third look at your original post on this thread, and it really reads like a statement, not a question

Anyways, back to being Evil

Only 11 sleeps till I fly from down under to the land of great friends and significant opportunity (aka InterNext)

Cross your legs Oh Evil one.
You sound excited as, I am to catch up with old Internext friends and meeting new ones !!

Remember No One does it as well as us Aussies
Straight you - Hardprofits.com
Gay/Bi and everything else me - Boybucks.net

That should get some reaction from our Yanky mates . .

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
[email protected]
ICQ 325624405

HardProfits · 07-18-2003, 11:51 PM

ya still didnt answer "the" question biatch

"So I can just confirm for all the folks out there in never never land, that you are putting up thoughts and not facts rearding the reduction of the 1% chargeback rate - correct?"

Resolute · 07-19-2003, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardProfits
ya still didnt answer "the" question biatch

"So I can just confirm for all the folks out there in never never land, that you are putting up thoughts and not facts rearding the reduction of the 1% chargeback rate - correct?"

You aun't going to weasel any more infomation out of me at this, stage "Evil" Dan . . .

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
[email protected]
ICQ 325624405

zzgundamnzz · 07-19-2003, 01:21 AM

oh well, we'll be back to using dialers again...

Resolute · 07-19-2003, 03:26 AM

Where's the music coming from ?

As long as it's not the funeral march I suppose its fine !!

HardProfits · 07-19-2003, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute

You aun't going to weasel any more infomation out of me at this, stage "Evil" Dan . . .

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
[email protected]
ICQ 325624405

Well Resolute

YOu are a bum - you are scaring all these poor folks for no reason at all

Shame on you

polish_aristocrat · 07-19-2003, 05:14 AM

we should send Tawnee Stone to the CEO of Visa...
she would make him a blowjob and record it on a camera...

pimplink · 07-19-2003, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute
Where's the music coming from ?

As long as it's not the funeral march I suppose its fine !!

Unless you can produce a URL that spells this out, I have a hard time believing you.

Resolute · 07-20-2003, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardProfits

Well Resolute

YOu are a bum - you are scaring all these poor folks for no reason at all

Shame on you

Ohhh you are speaking for all the other "Poor Folk" are you ?? How Self Righteous of you.

I have more respect for their intelligence to believe you !

This approach will not put any more pressure on me to tell you the information, I have or to divulge my source, till I get it double confirmed...

and thats - that....

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
ICQ 325624405

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardProfits
Anyways, back to being Evil

Only 11 sleeps till I fly from down under to the land of great friends and significant opportunity (aka InterNext)

OMG is it that soon really? Damn time flies!

Key West baby

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:27 AM

And no, I havent heard anything to the effect of more tightening up after October. It's a little too soon for that perhaps?

Resolute · 07-20-2003, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
And no, I havent heard anything to the effect of more tightening up after October. It's a little too soon for that perhaps?

Standby !

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
ICQ 325624405

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute

Standby !

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
ICQ 325624405

Cmon baby, you know I'm still in my cast, I can't go around standing!

Resolute · 07-20-2003, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Cmon baby, you know I'm still in my cast, I can't go around standing!

With great pins like yours you could stand for ever !!

Resolute.
www.boybucks.net
[email protected]
ICQ 325624405

HardProfits · 07-20-2003, 07:31 PM

And now only 9 sleeps - woohoo - single digits now guys

Getting very very excited

And Key West will be the blast of all blasts KK

And Resolute - you are soooo hurtful. Why oh why are you so mean to me

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 08:15 PM

We'll drown him in KW if he keeps it up Dan ;)

HardProfits · 07-20-2003, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
We'll drown him in KW if he keeps it up Dan ;)

Wow - I thought I had an Evil mind

Resolute · 07-20-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
We'll drown him in KW if he keeps it up Dan ;)

Kimmykim I have discovered a plot by you and "Evil" Dan re drowning me !! I am sure he is in coohoots with you here !!

and to you "Evil" Dan

HardProfits · 07-20-2003, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute

Kimmykim I have discovered a plot by you and "Evil" Dan re drowning me !! I am sure he is in coohoots with you here !!

and to you "Evil" Dan

Great discovery Sherlock

It was typed on the biggest board in our industry by both of us

Get your snorkel ready Resolute, and get ready to start sucking

Doh!

07-18-2003, 03:24 AM	#1
Resolute Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,143	V i s a to .75 of 1% !!!! Who would believe this - Visa reduces chargeback ratios to .75 or .50 of 1% Recurring billing is abolished Strap youselves in for a bumpy ride . Stay Tuned __________________ [email protected] ICQ 325624405

07-18-2003, 03:25 AM	#2
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07-18-2003, 05:50 AM	#12
jeroman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norway or UK or...damn, where am I Posts: 356	That's my limit. Past 6 months 0.75% with ccbill but I'm from europe and it's still 2.5% there :-)) It will be 1% chargeback ratio soon for US then the account holder has 6 months on him to fix so it will be lower. Thats not so hard. Where did you get the 0,5% from ?????????

07-18-2003, 05:57 AM	#15
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	It´s pretty obvious that VISA does not want to have anything to do with the awful adult webmasters. They want us to build shopping sites where people can buy lollipops and barbie dolls. We need something new here, like mobile phone billing ?

07-18-2003, 07:04 AM	#16
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	SMS billing is the shit - they've got it all over the place in Europe. You can even use it to get a can of soda out of a soda machine! But do the idiots in the US approve this and let us use it? Noooo... arrghh.

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ELFugo Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: other side... Posts: 6	Mobile phone billing works quite good in poland. It's more easily to send sms than to pay with the credit card. And, i know that poland is a completely different market.

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HardProfits So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BrizVegas Posts: 346	Hey Resolute So I can just confirm for all the folks out there in never never land, that you are putting up thoughts and not facts rearding the reduction of the 1% chargeback rate - correct? BTW - If you every need the inside run on what is happening in Billing, you know you can always ask me 1st. When have I ever not given you my time to shed light on the vast array of billing issues confronting us? Dont get me wrong mate, I am not mad at you - just concerned that you would post something like that. You see I have taken a second and third look at your original post on this thread, and it really reads like a statement, not a question Anyways, back to being Evil Only 11 sleeps till I fly from down under to the land of great friends and significant opportunity (aka InterNext)

07-18-2003, 11:51 PM	#33
HardProfits So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BrizVegas Posts: 346	ya still didnt answer "the" question biatch "So I can just confirm for all the folks out there in never never land, that you are putting up thoughts and not facts rearding the reduction of the 1% chargeback rate - correct?"

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Resolute Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,143	Where's the music coming from ? As long as it's not the funeral march I suppose its fine !! __________________ [email protected] ICQ 325624405

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	we should send Tawnee Stone to the CEO of Visa... she would make him a blowjob and record it on a camera... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	And no, I havent heard anything to the effect of more tightening up after October. It's a little too soon for that perhaps?

07-20-2003, 07:31 PM	#46
HardProfits So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BrizVegas Posts: 346	And now only 9 sleeps - woohoo - single digits now guys Getting very very excited And Key West will be the blast of all blasts KK And Resolute - you are soooo hurtful. Why oh why are you so mean to me

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	We'll drown him in KW if he keeps it up Dan ;)