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Adolph Hitler |
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90 | 35.29% |
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35 | 13.73% |
George Bush |
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81 | 31.76% |
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49 | 19.22% |
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Well don't think that America is the only country with plans for World domination..I have also found Canadian documents that outline in detail the plans for the Takeover and re-organisation of the USA and eventually the rest of the world..
http://www.standonguard.com/cart2.html http://www.standonguard.com/cart4.html http://www.standonguard.com/cart3.html And of course this horrifying, but some how logical document http://www.standonguard.com/top10.html I was absolutely shocked when I found these!! Shocked I say, SHOCKED! Quote:
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It is as if people forget that Hitler and Stalin were not just symbols of tyranny thery are symbols of genocide. over 75,000,000 were murdered between the two of them.... the comparison is unfortunately a sad reflection of our education system today |
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Notice even the question says "is/was". The only answer if you ask yourself who "IS" the most evil is Visa or Bush. If you say who "was", then you have two other choices. It's like when they ask who the greatest president is/was. Many people always answer with Clinton and/or Reagan. Why? Because those two guys are the ones who have directly (not indirectly) affected the lives of the people being asked the question. This has little to do with education and everything to do with human nature. |
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much higher body count than Hitler... he was more efficient I guess...
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Ahhh the morons of GFY.....
To compare an elected leader to a dictator is just retarded and stupid. Stalin killed millions of his own people, and Hilter exterminated 6 million Jews. Bush will be out of office next year, so how anyone can say that he will be or is evil is plain stupid and completely assinine!! |
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2. just because bush will be out of office next year in some round about way specifically means he's not evil? 3. what's wrong with comparing an elected leader to a dictator? tell us why it's "retarded and stupid" ( very insightful comments by the way.) |
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In truth, how far back in history do you want to look? There were far worse than Hitler and Stalin in this world I'm sure.
The mongolians enjoyed catapulting dead bodies into castles they were besieging and that's just touching the surface. Others improved on this technique and catapulted plague infested bodies into castles. You've all heard of Vlad the Impaler I'm sure. He would impale all captured prisoners in front of the advancing turkish armies presenting a forest of impaled soldiers complete with the ravens and vultures picking at the sometimes still alive victims, poison all wells (with plague, mind you) and send lepers into the turkish camps at night, disguised as whores. Gory to say the least. The aztecs kept an 'independent' county in the middle of their empire so they could raid them for sacrificial victims - usually removing their hearts at sunrise..while still alive. But ultimately evil is still a matter of perspective, as the human mind can rationalize any act.
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I think Bush is killed (and will kill) much more people. The death of a few Americans must be worldwide tragedy, the death of Iraq mothers and children, assassinated in a bus is just a mistake....
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Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Vlad, Ghengis and not forgetting Pol Pot were evil bastards. Bush is just a simpleton and can't and shouldn't be compared to these guys. |
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I would say because the people considered the most evil in history are considered such not only because of their temperment but because of their deeds and context. Would Hitler have been JUST as evil if he had been killed during World War I? One not only has to have a certain temperament but to act on it. Otherwise no one could know to what extent you are ?evil?. Evil thoughts, it seems to me, are not the same as evil deeds.
Of course, evil is in the eyes of the beholder. Osama is evil to some and the embodiment of good to others. I don?t really like the word ?evil?. Too many religious connotations and it?s vague. I would say if I were to call a world leader evil though, they would have to have committed inhumane acts on a grand scale and be viewed as in opposition to my world-view and political position. I only added George Bush as a joke. I didn?t think anyone would choose him. I never thought anyone would rank the small-scale wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on the same scale as extermination and systematic genocide of tens of millions of people. There is a recency factor as Mr. Fiction pointed out. That?s a great point. World War II is becoming ancient history. It?s veterans are dying off. But still, it seems like every other show on the History Channel is about Hitler and the bookstores seem to have their own Third Reich section. Fifty years from the now every other show on the History Channel is not going to be about George Bush?s Reich like every other show is about Hitler now. There is the difference. George Bush will have been just another president on the list. Hitler and Stalin were the pivotal figures of the twentieth century.
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are so few and far between that they are later celebrated as heroes (Schindler). If offered a choice between survival and changing one's world-view most people find their world-views are more malleable than they once thought. There was nothing wrong with the German people. They were an exceptionally talented and advanced society. Their reaction to the events around them were the normal ones. I don't think we'd be much different in similar circumstances.
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I am so amused by Pleasurepays' signature and the picture of that bomber. They just seem to go together so well.
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After seeing the results of the poll and some of the posts in this thread I'm no longer suprised by the level of stupidity on GFY sometimes. All makes sense now....
Stalin was by far the biggest butcher and it is very hard to imagine what would happen if he was in Hitlers position (strong economy and military power) in the pre-WW II time and in the beggining of the war. Hitler was a monster too, no doubt, but Stalin was one of a kind. Hitler is percieved as the biggest monster just because Stalin was lucky enough to be at the winning side when war ended. Same case as USA after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing.. Imagine that Mussolini used the nukes - guess who would be the biggest monster then? Some of you ppl should try to see the big picture (and i dont mean the picture on TV by that) every once in a while.
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It's a rational point, and I agree. However, irritating and annoying our allied nations will not do. For example, the past policy was to allow Europe, Japan and other nations to use our space satellite technology. This was to prevent other nations from building it themselves. With the current rift between the Bush admin, the Europeans are now planning to build their own sattelite tech(named Galileo, IIRC, google it for more info). Next thing you know, they'll be another arms race. However, instead of the U.S. versus the USSR, it's more like the U.S. versus the world. ![]() |
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The only thing I would add is that people should also look for information about the attacks on Desden - horrible attrocity, that very few people now about! |
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I mean..come on..yes, the bombing of Dresden did result in a lot of loss of civilian life. But that was also where the war plants were located. Hate to use the term "collateral damage", but that unfortunately was what it was. The U.S. was not bombing for the pure thrill of killing innocent civilians. So I'm not ready to put that campaign on par with what Hitler & Stalin did! |
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Stalin by far,
all the idiots on here who are lied to by the media will pick Hitler, Stalin is never talked about as bad because he helped to crush the worlds "evil" at the time Hitler by his army defeating the Germans in the harsh Russian winters, Stalin killed millions by starving them of their own food, many people fail to realize he was much more of a butcher than Hitler because of the Jewish media, why do u think war stories always win Oscars!? |
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you should add "Pleasure Labs" to the poll
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![]() I doubt there will be much free trade between the Americas - many of these countries who would have traded with the US are already negotiating dealing with other regions as well as the US - ie Europe and Asia. They then have a choice of who to sleep with. Predications are that Europe will strenghen it's arms, but not to the extent of the US - tis just not viable or needed. (US spends the equivalent in "defense" of the next top 20 countries combined - that says much). This year, for the first time since WWII, there is a drop in "brand loyality" in US manufactured products worldwide. This ranges from Big Macs to Nike - only exception was an increase in the Ford brand - but the rest wiped out the Ford increase and it is now a fair deficit. These stats are only recently published and it is predicted the next set will show more substantial losing of US brand loyalty. By the way one of the main reasons for Galileo is the EU does not want to rely on the US for this, - basically they are not trusted - yet more revenue lost. I doubt anyone seriously has any ambitions on having a WWIII - tho you can't predict a clown in Washington. The first sway to "power" in regions comes strong economies - the rest follows on... military hardware being a bi- product which is "supposed" to be "power" - but in real life, only goes a third of the way. Who is/was more evil? Gotta be Stalin with the others *almost* equal... Bush has a length to run yet - wait for this to change ![]() |
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All these euphemisms are a joke... "Friendly fire"... shit I can't imagine what is "friendly" about some ass firing at me - temptation is to puy a bullet in his brain! It ain't much comfort to know I was killed by the "good guys". "Pre-emptive attack" ... Goes like this.. I tell the world my neighbor is gonna harm me. How do I know that? Because I supplied him with the means. The cops search his house and find nothing. But I don't like my neighbors attitude anyway, so I hop next door and bomb him and his family. All inventive to keep the truth at bay ![]() |
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hitler definitely was the most evil man in history
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Wow. There be idiots in this thread.
Let's see now. Hitler killed 35 million and achieved nothing. Stalin killed 30 million and achieved nothing. Bush killed 10,000 (well actually these people died as a fault of the relevent dictator they lived under) but saved millions of others and has two former dictatorships on the way to democracy. You don't have to like the guy, but to compare him to Hitler and Stalin is brain dead. |
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Hmm...I wonder why Mao and his Red Guard have not been mentioned as some have estimated that the Red Guard may have exterminated up to 10 million during the days of the purge.
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How many died under Stalin is still quite contentious.. some estimates say between 8 to 20 million... Also 20 million Russians died in the second world war, who do you attribute those deaths to? Hitler for attacking?
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If you were against Stalin in any way, he either killed you with a gun, or sent you to Siberia. Which was a slow death.
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Bush and Hitler running neck and neck....Bush wins in the recount tho
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