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Adolph Hitler |
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90 | 35.29% |
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35 | 13.73% |
George Bush |
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81 | 31.76% |
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49 | 19.22% |
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george bush owns you all. hes the greatest president. end of story.
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This kind of reasoning excludes all of them for being evil. Neither Stalin or Saddam killed all these million people with their own hands, they just ordered.
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Actually Stalin killed more people than Hitler and Bush put together
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During the campaign he got the question how many deathsentences had he confirmed while he was governor. He was unable to give the correct number. ![]()
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We in the west tend to think of the western tyrants. How about
Mao Zedong? Same category as Hitler and Stalin though more geographically limited. Just as brutal and a mindnumbing number of deaths at his hands though.
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i think hitler believed what he was doing was right ( he was insane, not evil). evil things were done, but that's not the question.
stalin was also thought to be insanely paranoidat times, ( i dont know enough about him( i know he had great visions for russia but little or no regard for human life and millions died under his rule) bush is sane(from what i can tell, though history may show a different picture) i think bush is the only person of the three capable of being called evil, if you consider any of his deeds to be evil. |
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Anyone want to suggest some books on the subject?
While Stalin starved his people and Hitler killed anyone that didn't fit the "supreme race" description... Bush doesn't even rank with them ![]()
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Keegan's book on WW II is a good read. His book "A History of Warfare" is very good too.
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Is the state of education in the world so poor that kids today are not being taught that 50 million people died during World War II or that 20 million people died at the hands of Stalin? World War II was the pivotal event of the twentieth century and Stalin and Hitler were two of it's most important figures if not the most important. I'm not just talking about five decades old history either. Millions of people have died in more recent bloodbaths in Korea, China, Zaire, Cambodia, Aghanistan (Russo/Civil War, not US), Iran/Iraq, Rwanda. That's a shortened list of a much larger list. The world is in conflict and it's been in conflict. George Bush is not the first to drop bombs in the world. He's not even on the radar screen of world leaders in the past century to do so.
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Sure he has his faults, all leaders do...but I truly believe it annoys the public hehe... Any more reccommendations on any type of educational books would be awesome...I have lots o time
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Bernard Lewis' books. "Crisis of Islam" and "What went wrong?" are good for short punctuated histories of Islam.
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I'm interested in it all... World Leaders, World Crisis and everything in between. Damn, that didn't narrow it huh ![]()
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Anyone not voting for Hitler here is just making a bad analogy.
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And believe me in no way do I think the US is better or worse than any other country. But when you're told you are just a peon, well ppl take that to heart...
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Maybe it's just because I'm not from a country where we call foreign powers "evil doers" like some fucked up roger ramjet cartoon. but I've always thought of those most infamous leaders as being insane, hence my point. I have a good understanding of what ww2 was like secondhand and I have family that experienced some of the worst of it first hand so don't think I don't know just how unbelievably terrible life if you were lucky enough to have it at all was like. |
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Can't we all, just get along ![]() It'll all go away once ppl realize that there is no reason to act like they are better than others. Someday the my dick is bigger than your's fights will be over...haha yeah...keep dreaming edit: off to the library
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While there are credible reason to dislike Bush, compairing him to Hitler, or Stalin destroys any credibility of the people making arguements against Bush or his policies.
It proves they are either IGNORANT, or inflamatory, and thus should be ignored and laughed at!! |
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What about Mao Tse-Tung? By far, Mao and Stalin have been the most evil leaders of the last 100 years. What the Nazi's did almost seems minor compared to what those two were responsible for.
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I don't think Bush is like Hitler, but you can easily compare any two historical figures on at least some levels.
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The main this is the culling of the russian people. I've heard estimates as high as 40 million killed. |
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See if you can make Abraham Lincoln look like Adolf Hitler. Pretty easy really. Didn't finish school, excellent public speaker, suspended civil rights (habeas corpus), invaded a neighbor (the South). I'm sure you can add to the list.
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The only evil one from the bunch would be Stalin.
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It looks to me like the US wants to take over the world . Here's the plan Project for a New American Century . Bush is just the current manager in charge of implementing it .World domination is world domination - I think that puts Bush in at least the same league as Hitler .
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in Europe, u're considered under-educated if you dont know at least a second language
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It is no different than a country like France that attempts to use the UN and the EU in order to increase it's power in the world. It was just last year that France was speaking of becoming a world power again someday. Should everyone be frightened that France wants to be a world power again? Seems to me that is a completely normal objective for a nation such as France. Is Chirac then in the same league as Hitler? China wants to become a world-power. Their entire private and public policy is geared towards that aim. They are growing at 7% per year and plan to pass Japan and become the world's second largest economy in about 50 years. Is Hu Jintao then another Hitler?
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He got his gas bill in the mail.
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I voted for VISA
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the Russian people loved Stalin even though he was killign them , fucking amazin!
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Well my girlfriend has bene here two years now and her grandparents and grand uncles and aunts loved him, and would die for him. Thats how she described it to me. Are you russian also?
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This is like asking someone which one of their children they love the best.
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I was born in Romania and one popular saying after the war was: "It was hard with Der, Die, Das, but harder with Davai Ceas" Davai ceas was the russian soldier greeting to all romanian citizens and it means, loosely translated: "Give me your watch" In some cases russian officers would be sent ahead of the regular troops to warn all local people to stay indoors and not show their faces to avoid pillageing and raping by the russian troops.
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When the panzers rolled across Western Russian, many Russians celebrated thinking they had been liberated. Hitler could have played that whole liberated angle. It's an old one. He didn't.
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It's amazing how people are obsessed with George W. Bush. I was living in Europe shortly after he won the presidency. The media was demonizing him from day one. This is coming from a guy that didn't vote for him: You guys are obsessed with him in an unhealthy way. To compare him to two genocidal maniacs is a joke.
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Here is a different question for you. Who currently has the potential to do the most damage to the world? Visa and one other person on the list. Maybe if the world media had the power they do today and had been really down on Hitler and Stalin they wouldn't have been able to get away with what they did. It's not a bad thing when the media is critical of government. In fact, many people believe that the media in a free society is part of the system of checks and balances. Regardless of what the European media might be doing, the right leaning U.S. media has been kissing Bush's ass and defending him since he was elected. Only in the last month have we started to see a tiny bit of objectivity in their coverage of Bush. If the U.S. media treated Bush like they treated Clinton, the guy would have been impeached or resigned by now. |
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Is quantifying someone's capacity for "evil" supposed to let them off the hook if he doesn't emerge as the most evil?
Since of the list, George Bush is the only living individual, is he evil? He has ordered the deaths of others and made decisions that caused the deaths of his own citizens, all for narrow commercial interests. I doubt if he was concerned that there is very little prospect of a broader outcome that might somehow balance those sacrifices. He lied - I believe knowingly - to deceive his own citizens into supporting an agenda quite different from his own. But evil? I think such an extreme term needs to be reserved for far worse than GW. |
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