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Paul Markham · 07-13-2003, 11:26 PM

In a recent thread theking was asking for quotes about what was actually said to justify the war in Iraq. Here is what a British goverment enquiry has found

Quote:

1. "Iraq has a useable chemical and biological weapons capability which has included recent production of chemical and biological agents."

No evidence of Iraq's useable capability has been found in terms of manufacturing plants, bombs, rockets or actual chemical or biological agents, nor any sign of recent production.

A mysterious truck has been found which the CIA says is a mobile biological facility but this has not been accepted by all experts.

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2. "Saddam continues to attach great importance to the possession of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles... He is determined to retain these capabilities."

He may well have attached great importance to the possession of such weapons but none has been found. The meaning of the word "capability" is now key to this.

If the US and UK governments can show that Iraq maintained an active expertise, amounting to a "programme", they will claim their case has been made that Iraq violated UN resolutions.

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3. "Iraq can deliver chemical and biological agents using an extensive range of shells, bombs, sprayers and missiles."

Nothing major has been found so far. There was one aircraft adapted with a sprayer but its capability was small.

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4. "Iraq continues to work on developing nuclear weapons... Uranium has been sought from Africa."

The UN watchdog the IAEA said there was no evidence for this up to the start of the war and none has been found since. It is possible, though, that a case could be made from a shopping list of items needed for such a programme.

These include vacuum pumps, magnets, winding and balancing machines - all listed in the British dossier. No details about these purchasing attempts have been provided.

A claim that aluminium tubes were sought for this process was not wholly accepted by the British assessment though it was by the American and has subsequently not been proved.

The uranium claim is currently under question, though the British Government stands by its allegation.

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5. "Iraq possesses extended-range versions of the Scud ballistic missile."

No Scuds have been found. The British said Iraq might have up to 20, the CIA said up to 12.

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6. "Iraq's current military planning specifically envisages the use of chemical and biological weapons."

That may have been the case but direct evidence from serving Iraqi officers will be needed to prove it.

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7. "The Iraqi military are able to deploy these weapons (chemical and biological) within 45 minutes of a decision to do so."

The 45 minute claim is currently under question. It is said to come from "a single source" probably a defector or Iraqi officer. It has not been proven.

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8. "Iraq... is already taking steps to conceal and disperse sensitive equipment."

This is a focus of the current American and British investigation being carried out in Iraq by the Iraq Survey Group. One Iraqi scientist has come forward to say that he hid blueprints of centrifuges under his roses but that was in 1991.

If a pattern of concealment can be established, it would add to the credibility of the allegations that Iraq wanted to defy the UN.

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9. "Iraq's chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missile programme are well funded."

Evidence will be needed from serving Iraqi officials backed up by documents. Again, if a pattern of funding can be established, a case against Iraq could be made but if the actual programmes did not exist, was the funding of much use and in any case, how much was it?

President Bush and Prime Minister Blair will be meeting in Washington later this week when they will discuss their strategy to justify the claims.

But this is the most interesting part.

Quote:

Of the nine main conclusions in the British government document "Iraq's weapons of mass destruction", not one has been shown to be conclusively true.

Read the whole thing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3063361.stm

BRISK · 07-13-2003, 11:31 PM

Bush Claims 'Solid' Evidence on Iraq

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/021205/ap/d7nnp0200.html

Where is this 'solid' evidence?

Krome · 07-14-2003, 02:39 AM

The only thing Bush has ever produced that is solid is in this pants a few hours after having a kebab.

Kapitan Ivanov · 07-14-2003, 03:15 AM

So, should we make a big list about the weapons and 'capabilities' of the USA??

When will some of these pissing little countries stand up to this fucking bully of USA.

Fuck the USA, all you cvnts from there are the scum of the earth.

Ok, not all of you, but still.

scooby doo as scooby does · 07-14-2003, 03:57 AM

Facts:

1) Bush has said there are definitely WMD in Iraq.

2) Bush cant say what they are.

3) Bush cant say where they are.

4) Bush cant say how they will be delivered.

5) Bush cant say where they are built.

6) Bush cant say how they are built.

7) Bush cant say where the raw materials came from.

8) Bush cant say how they were funded.

9) Bush cant produce evidence to back his claim up after 3-4 months of UN inspections, and 3 months unrivalled and unfettered access to the country, its top military officers, policitians and scientists. And lets not forget, the complete cooperation of all Saddams enemies in Iraq and the cooperation of the Iraqi people who are so thankful they have been 'liberated' (well, according to Bush).

Current conclusion ?

Bush is a fucking liar. Period.

Paul Markham · 07-14-2003, 04:39 AM

Your all a bunch of America haters.

Probably communist as well.

Wonder where theking is, I posted this just for him.

Ross · 07-14-2003, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

Read the whole thing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3063361.stm

To be fair tho there is ahuge disagreement between the BBC and the Government in Britain. Some correspondant for the BBC claims to have proof that the documents to encourage war were fake but the Government have since proved these weren't. Its all kicking off over here!

Kapitan Ivanov · 07-14-2003, 05:07 AM

Oh Civil war in England... what would the USA do then...!?

Jump in and bomb the shit out of them? No... they'd sit back and watch.. since there's no benefit for them either way..

See you NT's.

Yes yes we're probably all communists.. you dumb shit who said that.

Webby · 07-14-2003, 05:38 AM

Shit.. somebody actually took the effort to provide theking with facts!

BUT... sure as hell they will be ingored or "discredited" or some comment like.. "I can see any facts"

gothweb · 07-14-2003, 07:23 AM

I am as much againt Bush as the next guy, but here's a thought:

Being wrong isn't the same thing as telling a lie.

theking · 07-14-2003, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Your all a bunch of America haters.

Probably communist as well.

Wonder where theking is, I posted this just for him.

Hmm...did you have a point to make? If so what is it?

theking · 07-15-2003, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

Hmm...did you have a point to make? If so what is it?

Just as I thought.

12clicks · 07-15-2003, 10:25 AM

here's a fact.

we don't care. we went into iraq because we decided to. all you snivilling sissies from snivilling countries chew on this for a while.

Thinking we care what a bunch of underachieving foriegners has to say about what we do is just dopey.

Honeyslut · 07-15-2003, 10:26 AM

When you sit and argue with theking, that means he wins..

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theking · 07-15-2003, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut
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Hiya 12clicks !

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Honeyslut · 07-15-2003, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

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theking · 07-15-2003, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

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mule · 07-15-2003, 01:54 PM

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theking · 07-15-2003, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

Hiya King,

How's your mom doing ? You seem to be in good spirits ..

I meant to tell you Jim at http://groovyadultdesign.com/
can make you a nice design at a great price..

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slackologist · 07-17-2003, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
here's a fact.

we don't care. we went into iraq because we decided to. all you snivilling sissies from snivilling countries chew on this for a while.

Thinking we care what a bunch of underachieving foriegners has to say about what we do is just dopey.

and here's another one, like any of us give a fuck what you think. you didn't decide to go to iraq, someone else decided for you. if you don't like it well fuck you don't have to read it.

but i'm sure your buttfuck of a leader couldnt be doing anything much more useful that starting a war killing lots of american soldiers and inflaming the terrorist situation even more..

- almost 4 months without cigs - does it show?

ADL Colin · 07-17-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov
So, should we make a big list about the weapons and 'capabilities' of the USA??

When will some of these pissing little countries stand up to this fucking bully of USA.

You are pointing out the blatantly obvious.

Those with the weapons make the rules. Answer this. What does every permanent member of the Security Council have in common?

seven · 07-17-2003, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin
Those with the weapons make the rules. Answer this. What does every permanent member of the Security Council have in common?

uhm.. none of their family members went to war to die for the Iraqi oil?

07-13-2003, 11:31 PM	#2
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07-14-2003, 03:15 AM	#4
Kapitan Ivanov Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Thank you for posting! You will now be taken to your post. If the administrator has selected to moderate all posts in this forum, you will be taken back to the forum and your post will be displayed presently. If you opted to post a poll, you will now Posts: 1,000	So, should we make a big list about the weapons and 'capabilities' of the USA?? When will some of these pissing little countries stand up to this fucking bully of USA. Fuck the USA, all you cvnts from there are the scum of the earth. Ok, not all of you, but still. __________________ Ivanov:Never posting again. (666)

07-14-2003, 03:57 AM	#5
scooby doo as scooby does Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: A deep dark place. Posts: 314	Facts: 1) Bush has said there are definitely WMD in Iraq. 2) Bush cant say what they are. 3) Bush cant say where they are. 4) Bush cant say how they will be delivered. 5) Bush cant say where they are built. 6) Bush cant say how they are built. 7) Bush cant say where the raw materials came from. 8) Bush cant say how they were funded. 9) Bush cant produce evidence to back his claim up after 3-4 months of UN inspections, and 3 months unrivalled and unfettered access to the country, its top military officers, policitians and scientists. And lets not forget, the complete cooperation of all Saddams enemies in Iraq and the cooperation of the Iraqi people who are so thankful they have been 'liberated' (well, according to Bush). Current conclusion ? Bush is a fucking liar. Period. __________________ In 1904, Charles Newman-Berry connected two abacus's together using specially enhanced GrapeVine thus inventing the first Internet connection. NEWMAN-BERRY CASH Paying webmaster since 1904

07-14-2003, 04:39 AM	#6
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Your all a bunch of America haters. Probably communist as well. Wonder where theking is, I posted this just for him. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

07-14-2003, 05:07 AM	#8
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07-14-2003, 02:39 AM	#3
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07-15-2003, 10:25 AM	#13
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,800	here's a fact. we don't care. we went into iraq because we decided to. all you snivilling sissies from snivilling countries chew on this for a while. Thinking we care what a bunch of underachieving foriegners has to say about what we do is just dopey. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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