WSB... Down the toilet..... Is ibill next? - GoFuckYourself.com

necoeds · 05-22-2003, 07:24 PM

I can't help but think.... Is ibill next?

I know lensman has repeatedly said that they are fine... but i'm starting to wonder....

I remember how all the trouble started with WSB... trouble with banks and such.... and now ibill is having trouble is their eu banks.....

eRock · 05-22-2003, 07:25 PM

I think WSB was just spending all our money. I mean, where did all that money go?

scoreman · 05-22-2003, 07:26 PM

No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

gruffy · 05-22-2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by necoeds
I can't help but think.... Is ibill next?

Hopefully. I hate those fuckers.

m0rph3us · 05-22-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

why?

SleazyDream · 05-22-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by m0rph3us

why?

I'll second that -WHY?

iroc409 · 05-22-2003, 07:57 PM

*stir*

dmv69 · 05-22-2003, 08:57 PM

i hope ibill doesnt go down yet. at least they can go down once i convince the paysite owner to change cc processors. i cant sell bukkake if it dont pay me my money...

in other news, i havent received my ibill check yet for last month... all output and no input will ruin me i tell ya.

yall · 05-22-2003, 09:01 PM

I hope iBill dies. Fucking fraud bastards.

woodman · 05-22-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by yall
I hope iBill dies. Fucking fraud bastards.

be very careful what you wish for

tony286 · 05-22-2003, 09:10 PM

ibill isnt going anywhere, you got remember out of all the third party processors , they are the only one ran by a big company. That company reported for the first quarter a profit of 65.2 million dollars (even after the MC fine) up 62.4% from first quarter 2002 40.2 million. Money isnt a problem, they are big now thats why you dont see their CEO on the board. They are cleaning things up, getting rid of problem webmasters, now it costs $15 dollars for a cb and they upped the percentage. They are working on making ibll profitable. This isnt Mom/ Pop which is good and bad. The bad is no personal service like ccbill and epoch, the good is they have lots of cash. My checks come like clock work and cash everytime.

ajthegreat · 05-22-2003, 09:11 PM

I hope those lying bastards go under too. For 2 months they lied to me that the wire was sent, then they just flat ass refused to pay. Really wish I had recorded the conversation when the premiums department told me my wire had already went out.

PostWhore · 05-22-2003, 09:11 PM

funny how Lensman protects iBill...

KRL · 05-22-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
ibill isnt going anywhere, you got remember out of all the third party processors , they are the only one ran by a big company. That company reported for the first quarter a profit of 65.2 million dollars (even after the MC fine) up 62.4% from first quarter 2002 40.2 million. Money isnt a problem, they are big now thats why you dont see their CEO on the board. They are cleaning things up, getting rid of problem webmasters, now it costs $15 dollars for a cb and they upped the percentage. They are working on making ibll profitable. This isnt Mom/ Pop which is good and bad. The bad is no personal service like ccbill and epoch, the good is they have lots of cash. My checks come like clock work and cash everytime.

Tony where you been the past three years? Big companies can go flipity dipity too. American Airlines just narrowly missed going belly up and the situation is still fluid.

Things can change overnight in this industry. Companies with huge followings have come and gone and I'md sure we haven't seen the last of it.

The only thing you can reliably bank on is change. So prepare for it and diversify so you have hedged bets all over. Whatever you do, don't put all your eggs with one sponsor, or one processor, or one whatever. Spread and protect.

tony286 · 05-22-2003, 09:21 PM

Thats why I signed up for Stormpay baby

Also the first check that doesnt come I will have a new processor the next day and incentives for my members to move.Homey dont play lol.

Theo · 05-22-2003, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

well?

DatingGold · 05-22-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Thats why I signed up for Stormpay baby Also the first check that doesnt come I will have a new processor the next day and incentives for my members to move.Homey dont play lol.

how well do incentives to move work?

Dax · 05-22-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

Well.... talk.. why do you say that.. I know you defend ibill till death do you appart.. but why take a shot at jettis?

tony286 · 05-22-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by DatingGold

how well do incentives to move work?

Who knows but it would be worth a try as opposed to losing them all . lol

sweetcuties · 05-22-2003, 09:29 PM

Bottom line, save and bank your $$... there's no guarantee about tomorrow. I spent 100k last yr on dumb shit and I don't have that much to show... BANK, BANK, BANK!!!!

ajthegreat · 05-22-2003, 09:30 PM

I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools

HardProfits · 05-22-2003, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Tony where you been the past three years? Big companies can go flipity dipity too. American Airlines just narrowly missed going belly up and the situation is still fluid.

Things can change overnight in this industry. Companies with huge followings have come and gone and I'md sure we haven't seen the last of it.

The only thing you can reliably bank on is change. So prepare for it and diversify so you have hedged bets all over. Whatever you do, don't put all your eggs with one sponsor, or one processor, or one whatever. Spread and protect.

Hey KRL _ I will have to call you out here

The BIG difference between iBill and American Airlines is that iBill is owned by InterCept that keeps making good profits (including this last year).

You really cannot compare the two buddy

My 2 Cents: I think that Visa and MasterCard are going to reduce the number of IPSP's in the market place and only deal with the stronger companies that attempt to work within their guidleines (or some more major lawsuits).

4Pics · 05-22-2003, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by ajthegreat
I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools

Epoch is no better then these 2 companies...

PbG · 07-12-2003, 06:38 PM

Oh lawd not DMR . . . Bitch betta have mah money!!

Quote:

Originally posted by ajthegreat
I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools

Kevin2 · 07-12-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

scoreman are you going to repsond to everyone here that have asked WHY? I would like to know because I am planning on using jettis in the future.

Brent · 07-12-2003, 07:41 PM

ibills customer service needs to improve drastically.

DTK · 07-12-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

OK, I'll be the sixth person to ask you to clarify

Nosmo King · 07-12-2003, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by DTK

OK, I'll be the sixth person to ask you to clarify

Maybe he was referring to the fact that Jettis, like iBill and Epoch is one of the processors that received a hefty credit card fine.

There is also another thread on Jettis concerns here:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=152148

Filter · 07-12-2003, 10:04 PM

vapewiz · 07-12-2003, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Brent
ibills customer service needs to improve drastically.

That's no joke ibill has the absolute WORST support and PR i have ever had to deal with and seen in this biz.

Also i remember when i was a newbie and epoch took months to send me my checks... anyone remember this? Was like 2-3 years ago and now everyone seems to love them... why do you handle you own payouts with them or they finally send checks out on time?

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dmv69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: canada Posts: 452	i hope ibill doesnt go down yet. at least they can go down once i convince the paysite owner to change cc processors. i cant sell bukkake if it dont pay me my money... in other news, i havent received my ibill check yet for last month... all output and no input will ruin me i tell ya. __________________ <img border="0" src="http://www.angelfire.com/home/kilgore20/images/marge.gif" width="110" height="76">

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yall Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 175	I hope iBill dies. Fucking fraud bastards.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	ibill isnt going anywhere, you got remember out of all the third party processors , they are the only one ran by a big company. That company reported for the first quarter a profit of 65.2 million dollars (even after the MC fine) up 62.4% from first quarter 2002 40.2 million. Money isnt a problem, they are big now thats why you dont see their CEO on the board. They are cleaning things up, getting rid of problem webmasters, now it costs $15 dollars for a cb and they upped the percentage. They are working on making ibll profitable. This isnt Mom/ Pop which is good and bad. The bad is no personal service like ccbill and epoch, the good is they have lots of cash. My checks come like clock work and cash everytime.

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ajthegreat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 61	I hope those lying bastards go under too. For 2 months they lied to me that the wire was sent, then they just flat ass refused to pay. Really wish I had recorded the conversation when the premiums department told me my wire had already went out.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Thats why I signed up for Stormpay baby Also the first check that doesnt come I will have a new processor the next day and incentives for my members to move.Homey dont play lol.

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ajthegreat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 61	I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools

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