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MrPopup · 07-06-2003, 09:22 PM

It looks like <a href="http://www.acaciaresearch.com/main.html">Acacia Research Group</a> is about to become one of the richest media companies on the planet. According to a story by Charles Farrar of <a href="http://www.avnonline.com">AVNOnline.com</a>, one of the Internet's larger adult website producers recently <a href="http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200307/newsarchive/news_070303_1.shtml">agreed to license</a> Acacia's controversial <a href="http://www.acaciaresearch.com/pages/partners/acgreenwich.html">Digital Media Transmission Technology</a> (DMT). For those that don't know, Acacia claims patents on just about every form of streaming broadcast on the Internet, satellite and cable. Terms and royalty agreements between Acacia and <a href="http://cecash.com/">CE Cash</a> are undisclosed but will likely "mean substantial revenue for Acacia" and sets a tide-turning precedent for the rest of the adult online industry. Acacia has already licensed DMT to <a href="http://www.audioworld.com/stat/pr/0212/20.acacia.dmt.radio.virgin.shtml">Virgin Radio</a> and the <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030513/135630_1.html">LodgeNet</a> video-on-demand hotel network. Funny how the Acacia news page <a href="http://www.acaciaresearch.com/index_pressroom.html">mentions nothing</a> about the deal.

...I tried to dumb it down for the mainstream slashdot masses but no dice. Fuck it, i gotta clean it up and resubmit....

I guess the mainstream translation of affiliate sponsor is "website producer"...thats the unclear.

KC · 07-06-2003, 09:36 PM

why would you want to advertise that CE settled with them?

I don't think it helps the fight against them to advertise that people are settling

MrPopup · 07-06-2003, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by KC
why would you want to advertise that CE settled with them?

I don't think it helps the fight against them to advertise that people are settling

Advertise? It's news. Since when is news is advertising?

baddog · 07-06-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by KC
why would you want to advertise that CE settled with them?

I don't think it helps the fight against them to advertise that people are settling

In fact, that is exactly what they say in their letters now. CE settled, you had better too.

baddog · 07-06-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Advertise? It's news. Since when is news is advertising?

are you a writer, or do you just play one on GFY?

To advertise does not necessarily mean to announce a sale, or spam, but to notify, make people aware, is also advertising.

So news is always advertising.

KC · 07-07-2003, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by baddog

In fact, that is exactly what they say in their letters now. CE settled, you had better too.

Of course they do!

With people like Mr Popup running to slashdot with it as "news", they're just going to pickup more steam with their BS scare campaign.

MrPopup · 07-07-2003, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by KC

Of course they do!

With people like Mr Popup running to slashdot with it as "news", they're just going to pickup more steam with their BS scare campaign.

"BS Scare Campaign"
"Running"

Those are some poorly chosen words.

Virgin Radio and Lodge-Net have already licensed the technology and I dont think they were "scared" into anything. Whether I disagree or agree with Acacia's patent claims is irrelevant.

The purpose of reporting the news is to inform people so they can make their own independent decision. You've already come to your conclusion and it may be right or it may be wrong... but dont ever presume you can tell me what to write or what NOT to write.

chodadog · 07-07-2003, 12:39 AM

Not exactly objective, is it?

"tide-turning precedent"

How is this a tide turning precedent? Explain.

MrPopup · 07-07-2003, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
Not exactly objective, is it?

"tide-turning precedent"

How is this a tide turning precedent? Explain.

Tide-turning....as in they are the first major affiliate player to license DMT. You dont expect others to follow?

MrPopup · 07-07-2003, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

To advertise does not necessarily mean to announce a sale, or spam, but to notify, make people aware, is also advertising.

So news is always advertising.

thanks for your wonderful definition of advertising. I'll file it under W for wonderful.

MrPopup · 07-07-2003, 12:53 AM

I'm more outraged about the fact that the Acacia site mentions nothing about the deal which is obviously going to be worth some $$$$.

Seems like more of the same of this.

Big business continuing to reap profits off of the little guys yet hiding behind giant closed corporate doors and big nasty Non-disclosure agreements....

gothweb · 07-07-2003, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

In fact, that is exactly what they say in their letters now. CE settled, you had better too.

I wonder if they can use that, unless it was part of the deal. Had I been CE, I wouldn't want them using my business name in that way.

chodadog · 07-07-2003, 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Tide-turning....as in they are the first major affiliate player to license DMT. You dont expect others to follow?

I doubt CECash signing would be the reason. I put my pants on this morning, it doesn't mean i set a tide-turning precedent across all of Australia.

baddog · 07-07-2003, 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb

I wonder if they can use that, unless it was part of the deal. Had I been CE, I wouldn't want them using my business name in that way.

trust me, in their latest letter they say that they have entered into licensing agreements with many companies like CECash/Cybererotica, LodgeNet, and Virgin Radio...

It is part of the scare campaign. Essentially if these guys did it, you had better do it too.

12clicks · 07-07-2003, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
Slashdot just rejected this story

I'm sure after your first 10,000 submissions, they just block your email address.

07-06-2003, 09:22 PM	#1
MrPopup Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: on the internet Posts: 3,783	Slashdot just rejected this story It looks like <a href="http://www.acaciaresearch.com/main.html">Acacia Research Group</a> is about to become one of the richest media companies on the planet. According to a story by Charles Farrar of <a href="http://www.avnonline.com">AVNOnline.com</a>, one of the Internet's larger adult website producers recently <a href="http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200307/newsarchive/news_070303_1.shtml">agreed to license</a> Acacia's controversial <a href="http://www.acaciaresearch.com/pages/partners/acgreenwich.html">Digital Media Transmission Technology</a> (DMT). For those that don't know, Acacia claims patents on just about every form of streaming broadcast on the Internet, satellite and cable. Terms and royalty agreements between Acacia and <a href="http://cecash.com/">CE Cash</a> are undisclosed but will likely "mean substantial revenue for Acacia" and sets a tide-turning precedent for the rest of the adult online industry. Acacia has already licensed DMT to <a href="http://www.audioworld.com/stat/pr/0212/20.acacia.dmt.radio.virgin.shtml">Virgin Radio</a> and the <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030513/135630_1.html">LodgeNet</a> video-on-demand hotel network. Funny how the Acacia news page <a href="http://www.acaciaresearch.com/index_pressroom.html">mentions nothing</a> about the deal. ...I tried to dumb it down for the mainstream slashdot masses but no dice. Fuck it, i gotta clean it up and resubmit.... I guess the mainstream translation of affiliate sponsor is "website producer"...thats the unclear. __________________ <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" bgcolor="#008000"><tr><td><font size=3>Gone</font></td></tr></table> Last edited by MrPopup; 07-06-2003 at 09:37 PM..

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chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Not exactly objective, is it? "tide-turning precedent" How is this a tide turning precedent? Explain. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

07-07-2003, 12:53 AM	#11
MrPopup Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: on the internet Posts: 3,783	I'm more outraged about the fact that the Acacia site mentions nothing about the deal which is obviously going to be worth some $$$$. Seems like more of the same of this. Big business continuing to reap profits off of the little guys yet hiding behind giant closed corporate doors and big nasty Non-disclosure agreements.... __________________ <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" bgcolor="#008000"><tr><td><font size=3>Gone</font></td></tr></table>