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Mesman · 06-21-2003, 01:16 PM

Just curious - maybe I suck - I'm new, that much I'll admit, but for the last week I have submitted a gallery a day for each website Triple X Cash has to offer and I have recieved a total ratio of 1 to 1000 - and that one signup was for $3.98!!

I know 1 : 2 - 3 hundred is what I'm after, so this is obviously BAD.

This is my latest design - how much does it suck?!?!?!

http://www.smuttnstuff.com/rr/ep13/index.html

Any words of advice from the GFY clan would be much appreciated!!! This gallery was made simple on PURPOSE - don't trip on my skills, cuz graphic wise I KILL... I contacted Triple X after finally recieving a reply from Evil Chris through GFY and after breaking it down to him ala ICQ, I have not heard a word since!!!

Anybody working for them?? Anybody working for Gloryhole?!?!?!?

I ain't stopping till I figure this shit out - I know the industry sucks compared to pre 2000 (If I was only around from '96!!!) but I'm just looking to make $500/week - how fuckin hard is that?!?!?!?! I don't have any time for dumb asses so after you read this, either help or Go FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!!

Mesman

One more ? - Getting about 100 click-thrus to X's sites with this design to about 10,000 uniques from the TGPs - that sucks!!! What do I need to do?!?!?!

Lane · 06-21-2003, 01:17 PM

desperate are we?

detoxed · 06-21-2003, 01:19 PM

Instead of making the link ENTER HERE, make it that whole line.. and add more text to it.. tell them what they get when they enter here.. i know you did that up above but you gotta TELL them what to do and why.

Mesman · 06-21-2003, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
desperate are we?

Yoda are you?!?!?!?!

GFY

Mesman

amph · 06-21-2003, 01:24 PM

Hit me up on ICQ and i show you what will convert better

maxjohan · 06-21-2003, 01:27 PM

how many clicks did you get..from that gallery?

MadCap · 06-21-2003, 01:28 PM

First dont really ever expect more than 1 or 2% click through on your galleries

http://www.newbiewebmasters.com/show...&threadid=6624

read here good shit for you there

Reak · 06-21-2003, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadCap
First dont really ever expect more than 1 or 2% click through on your galleries

http://www.newbiewebmasters.com/show...&threadid=6624

read here good shit for you there

thats right yes, maby you should edite your ENTER HERE

into a line with some flash and put it on more places, just to let people know this is a paysite i looks like a free site tough

hope you got more luck in the future

RedShoe · 06-21-2003, 01:52 PM

Wow.. I'm using my prescious 5999th post for this. I really wanted to something bigger, but son I see you need help. And so... here I am.

Newbies take note, this goes out to all of you.

Lesson #1. That gallery has got to go. If it doesn't sell, dump it. That's just straight trial and error.

Lesson #2. What is your source of traffic? Did you only send 1000 hits to the gallery and expect a sale? Ratios are averages, they're not guides.

Lesson #3. Don't worry about other people. If Juicylinks, or Boneprone comes in here bragging about 1:200 (or better) on TGP it's because these guys are at the top of their game. They know every little trick in the book. They know exactly how and where to put a link to increase sales. Everyone starts somewhere. You WILL do better. Just hang in there.

Lesson #4. Design: I don't know what it is about your gallery, but it just doesn't flow. Maybe it's because the black table BG doesn't run all the way down the page it stops after every set of thumbs, and so do my eyes. My eyes stop. It's like slowly sliding down stairs. Clunk, pause, Clunk, pause, Cluck, pause.

Also, the text doesn't really flow because you have a block of text, then some images, then you seem to reference the first block of text. Surfers don't wanna remember shit, and in a gallery they don't wanna read shit. Your goal is to get them to US as FAST AS YOU CAN. Let us sell 'em.

More on gallery design: Now this doesn't hold true for every gallery, but try this. Try choosing a similar color scheme as our tour. It helps to transition the surfer. Too much color change will send some surfers into a epileptic fit. You don't want to have a bad ass gallery that's all moody and sexy, with silky colors, and beautiful girls and then send the surfer to the Ringling Brothers circus page. You'd kill his wood faster than his ol' lady can.

Send them to us ASAP and as SMOOTHLY as possible.

I'm a believer in the "less is more" in gallery design so take what I've given you and make me proud. Rectal Rooter is a very good site, and it converts well with the RIGHT TRAFFIC.

And.. dump the ENTER HERE, instead go for a "View more movies" or Click here for more anal pounding movies".
"Enter Here" is like the 468x60 banner of the late 90's
(No one clicks them anymore)

Lesson #5. Traffic: Don't rely entirly on TGP traffic. We have enough content for you to crank out many free sites. Build up free sites, and build up your own TGP's, and get them into link lists, and search engines. Then start linking your free sites together. Best place to start, is the same sites you used to surf while looking for porn. LOL

Lesson #6. In closing. Every surfer is a potential sale! Remember the whole goal is to SELL!! Adult webmasters are salesmen (and women)... Ok, you area "salesPERSON", so learn your trade. Read as many articles as you can, they are there to help you. Work smarter, not harder.

I hope this helps. Now go get 'em tiger.

Mesman · 06-21-2003, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe
Wow.. I'm using my prescious 5999th post for this. I really wanted to something bigger, but son I see you need help. And so... here I am.

Newbies take note, this goes out to all of you.

Lesson #1. That gallery has got to go. If it doesn't sell, dump it. That's just straight trial and error.

Lesson #2. What is your source of traffic? Did you only send 1000 hits to the gallery and expect a sale? Ratios are averages, they're not guides.

Lesson #3. Don't worry about other people. If Juicylinks, or Boneprone comes in here bragging about 1:200 (or better) on TGP it's because these guys are at the top of their game. They know every little trick in the book. They know exactly how and where to put a link to increase sales. Everyone starts somewhere. You WILL do better. Just hang in there.

Lesson #4. Design: I don't know what it is about your gallery, but it just doesn't flow. Maybe it's because the black table BG doesn't run all the way down the page it stops after every set of thumbs, and so do my eyes. My eyes stop. It's like slowly sliding down stairs. Clunk, pause, Clunk, pause, Cluck, pause.

Also, the text doesn't really flow because you have a block of text, then some images, then you seem to reference the first block of text. Surfers don't wanna remember shit, and in a gallery they don't wanna read shit. Your goal is to get them to US as FAST AS YOU CAN. Let us sell 'em.

More on gallery design: Now this doesn't hold true for every gallery, but try this. Try choosing a similar color scheme as our tour. It helps to transition the surfer. Too much color change will send some surfers into a epileptic fit. You don't want to have a bad ass gallery that's all moody and sexy, with silky colors, and beautiful girls and then send the surfer to the Ringling Brothers circus page. You'd kill his wood faster than his ol' lady can.

Send them to us ASAP and as SMOOTHLY as possible.

I'm a believer in the "less is more" in gallery design so take what I've given you and make me proud. Rectal Rooter is a very good site, and it converts well with the RIGHT TRAFFIC.

And.. dump the ENTER HERE, instead go for a "View more movies" or Click here for more anal pounding movies".
"Enter Here" is like the 468x60 banner of the late 90's
(No one clicks them anymore)

Lesson #5. Traffic: Don't rely entirly on TGP traffic. We have enough content for you to crank out many free sites. Build up free sites, and build up your own TGP's, and get them into link lists, and search engines. Then start linking your free sites together. Best place to start, is the same sites you used to surf while looking for porn. LOL

Lesson #6. In closing. Every surfer is a potential sale! Remember the whole goal is to SELL!! Adult webmasters are salesmen (and women)... Ok, you area "salesPERSON", so learn your trade. Read as many articles as you can, they are there to help you. Work smarter, not harder.

I hope this helps. Now go get 'em tiger.

Whadup Red!!!! You're the man!!!!! Any chance of talking ala ICQ?!?!?!

334891336

I figured *** would do well since I was told so by a pretty successful ai head...
Would love to chat about a few more things...

Mesman ([email protected])

psyko514 · 06-30-2003, 03:00 AM

[bump]

for RedShoe.

RedShoe · 06-30-2003, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
[bump]

for RedShoe.

WOW!!! You found it. I forgot who made the post. And look I was wrong. Someone did read it. LOL

Fire · 06-30-2003, 03:11 AM

Now more people are gonna read it!!

stocktrader23 · 06-30-2003, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe

WOW!!! You found it. I forgot who made the post. And look I was wrong. Someone did read it. LOL

Congrats on 6000!

escorpio · 06-30-2003, 03:21 AM

Redshoe

klik · 06-30-2003, 03:22 AM

Red made this thread what it is... wanna be my motivational speaker on call?

Peter Romero · 06-30-2003, 03:30 AM

Bump... good shit! This is why I came to GFY. You rule! I forgive you for not inviting me to the CFF party.

RedShoe · 06-30-2003, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by klik
Red made this thread what it is... wanna be my motivational speaker on call?

Make more sales, or I'll bash your head in. I'll bash it right the fuck in.
How's that for motivation? LOL

Just be honest with yourself. Do you really see yourself making it big in this industry? Then do it. Get out there. Hustle, read, learn. Welcome to the land of opportunity.

thatdykeliz · 06-30-2003, 03:41 AM

Redshoe, you give some good advice. I've been doing the stuff you're talking about -- and I'm seeing my click-throughs get better and better. I may not have big sales numbers yet, but just learning how to make the surfer click through to the sponsor is an art...gimme a holler if you need somebody to write stories for any of your sites, 'cause that's what's rockin for me right now, I've done some story galleries that Shemp posted...and, um, I noticed some misspellings on the *** page.

Get yo'self a proofreader, baby!

KRL · 06-30-2003, 06:11 AM

Always ask yourself QUESTION #1 when things don't work.

What am I trying to sell?

What are you selling on that gallery? Rectal Rooters? Think about that for a sec.

How many guys out there want to pull out a credit card to subscribe for rectal rooter pictures?

Do you see my point. I'm not knocking rectal rooter or the niche. There is a market. I'm just pointing out here always take what you're trying to sell and look in the mirror with it. That is a tightly focused niche with very limited potential subscribers in relation to other more popular niches like Amateurs, Blowjobs, Big Tits, etc.

Sell what has the most potential customers. That'll throw the odds in your favor for greater conversions.

Always think like you're selling on a table at a flea market / swap meet because that is what the Net is like. What would sell more Levi's jeans or ballerina tights at your booth? Selling is a very simple process. You're looking to market what people want to buy. So if you're just starting out you can't afford to sell specialty items yet. Bank some money selling jeans first. Everyone wears them and wants them. You can pitch the ballerina tights down the road.

jojojo · 06-30-2003, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Too much color change will send some surfers into a epileptic fit. You don't want to have a bad ass gallery that's all moody and sexy, with silky colors, and beautiful girls and then send the surfer to the Ringling Brothers circus page. You'd kill his wood faster than his ol' lady can.

Hilarous and true LOL

Quote:

So if you're just starting out you can't afford to sell specialty items yet. Bank some money selling jeans first. Everyone wears them and wants them. You can pitch the ballerina tights down the road.

Very nice analogy

Porn Mickey · 06-30-2003, 07:06 AM

RedShoe, give us some real example not only a theory

Scherfi · 06-30-2003, 09:09 AM

what about making thumbs smaller than 25k???? just a thought ;)

06-21-2003, 01:52 PM	#9
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Wow.. I'm using my prescious 5999th post for this. I really wanted to something bigger, but son I see you need help. And so... here I am. Newbies take note, this goes out to all of you. Lesson #1. That gallery has got to go. If it doesn't sell, dump it. That's just straight trial and error. Lesson #2. What is your source of traffic? Did you only send 1000 hits to the gallery and expect a sale? Ratios are averages, they're not guides. Lesson #3. Don't worry about other people. If Juicylinks, or Boneprone comes in here bragging about 1:200 (or better) on TGP it's because these guys are at the top of their game. They know every little trick in the book. They know exactly how and where to put a link to increase sales. Everyone starts somewhere. You WILL do better. Just hang in there. Lesson #4. Design: I don't know what it is about your gallery, but it just doesn't flow. Maybe it's because the black table BG doesn't run all the way down the page it stops after every set of thumbs, and so do my eyes. My eyes stop. It's like slowly sliding down stairs. Clunk, pause, Clunk, pause, Cluck, pause. Also, the text doesn't really flow because you have a block of text, then some images, then you seem to reference the first block of text. Surfers don't wanna remember shit, and in a gallery they don't wanna read shit. Your goal is to get them to US as FAST AS YOU CAN. Let us sell 'em. More on gallery design: Now this doesn't hold true for every gallery, but try this. Try choosing a similar color scheme as our tour. It helps to transition the surfer. Too much color change will send some surfers into a epileptic fit. You don't want to have a bad ass gallery that's all moody and sexy, with silky colors, and beautiful girls and then send the surfer to the Ringling Brothers circus page. You'd kill his wood faster than his ol' lady can. Send them to us ASAP and as SMOOTHLY as possible. I'm a believer in the "less is more" in gallery design so take what I've given you and make me proud. Rectal Rooter is a very good site, and it converts well with the RIGHT TRAFFIC. And.. dump the ENTER HERE, instead go for a "View more movies" or Click here for more anal pounding movies". "Enter Here" is like the 468x60 banner of the late 90's (No one clicks them anymore) Lesson #5. Traffic: Don't rely entirly on TGP traffic. We have enough content for you to crank out many free sites. Build up free sites, and build up your own TGP's, and get them into link lists, and search engines. Then start linking your free sites together. Best place to start, is the same sites you used to surf while looking for porn. LOL Lesson #6. In closing. Every surfer is a potential sale! Remember the whole goal is to SELL!! Adult webmasters are salesmen (and women)... Ok, you area "salesPERSON", so learn your trade. Read as many articles as you can, they are there to help you. Work smarter, not harder. I hope this helps. Now go get 'em tiger. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants Last edited by RedShoe; 06-21-2003 at 01:55 PM..

06-30-2003, 03:00 AM	#11
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06-30-2003, 03:30 AM	#17
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06-30-2003, 03:41 AM	#19
thatdykeliz Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: talkin dirty on the phone Posts: 1,026	Redshoe, you give some good advice. I've been doing the stuff you're talking about -- and I'm seeing my click-throughs get better and better. I may not have big sales numbers yet, but just learning how to make the surfer click through to the sponsor is an art...gimme a holler if you need somebody to write stories for any of your sites, 'cause that's what's rockin for me right now, I've done some story galleries that Shemp posted...and, um, I noticed some misspellings on the *** page. Get yo'self a proofreader, baby! __________________ <font size="1" font color="black"><i><b>"No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater...than central air."</i> -- Dogma</b> ICQ#169.839.131</font>

06-21-2003, 01:16 PM	#1
Mesman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 23	1:1000?!?!?!?!?!?! Hhhheeeeeeelllllppp!! Just curious - maybe I suck - I'm new, that much I'll admit, but for the last week I have submitted a gallery a day for each website Triple X Cash has to offer and I have recieved a total ratio of 1 to 1000 - and that one signup was for $3.98!! I know 1 : 2 - 3 hundred is what I'm after, so this is obviously BAD. This is my latest design - how much does it suck?!?!?! http://www.smuttnstuff.com/rr/ep13/index.html Any words of advice from the GFY clan would be much appreciated!!! This gallery was made simple on PURPOSE - don't trip on my skills, cuz graphic wise I KILL... I contacted Triple X after finally recieving a reply from Evil Chris through GFY and after breaking it down to him ala ICQ, I have not heard a word since!!! Anybody working for them?? Anybody working for Gloryhole?!?!?!? I ain't stopping till I figure this shit out - I know the industry sucks compared to pre 2000 (If I was only around from '96!!!) but I'm just looking to make $500/week - how fuckin hard is that?!?!?!?! I don't have any time for dumb asses so after you read this, either help or Go FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!! Mesman One more ? - Getting about 100 click-thrus to X's sites with this design to about 10,000 uniques from the TGPs - that sucks!!! What do I need to do?!?!?!

06-21-2003, 01:17 PM	#2
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	desperate are we? __________________

06-21-2003, 01:19 PM	#3
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Instead of making the link ENTER HERE, make it that whole line.. and add more text to it.. tell them what they get when they enter here.. i know you did that up above but you gotta TELL them what to do and why.

06-21-2003, 01:24 PM	#5
amph Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LaLaLand Posts: 1,245	Hit me up on ICQ and i show you what will convert better __________________ MEATCASH PWNZ THE INTERWEB ____________ ICQ:30768214 ~~~~~~~~~

06-21-2003, 01:27 PM	#6
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	how many clicks did you get..from that gallery? __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

06-21-2003, 01:28 PM	#7
MadCap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: 137771650 Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,357	First dont really ever expect more than 1 or 2% click through on your galleries http://www.newbiewebmasters.com/show...&threadid=6624 read here good shit for you there

06-30-2003, 03:11 AM	#13
Fire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 486	Now more people are gonna read it!!

06-30-2003, 03:22 AM	#16
klik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san diego Posts: 5,092	Red made this thread what it is... wanna be my motivational speaker on call?

06-30-2003, 06:11 AM	#20
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Always ask yourself QUESTION #1 when things don't work. What am I trying to sell? What are you selling on that gallery? Rectal Rooters? Think about that for a sec. How many guys out there want to pull out a credit card to subscribe for rectal rooter pictures? Do you see my point. I'm not knocking rectal rooter or the niche. There is a market. I'm just pointing out here always take what you're trying to sell and look in the mirror with it. That is a tightly focused niche with very limited potential subscribers in relation to other more popular niches like Amateurs, Blowjobs, Big Tits, etc. Sell what has the most potential customers. That'll throw the odds in your favor for greater conversions. Always think like you're selling on a table at a flea market / swap meet because that is what the Net is like. What would sell more Levi's jeans or ballerina tights at your booth? Selling is a very simple process. You're looking to market what people want to buy. So if you're just starting out you can't afford to sell specialty items yet. Bank some money selling jeans first. Everyone wears them and wants them. You can pitch the ballerina tights down the road. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains Last edited by KRL; 06-30-2003 at 06:15 AM..

06-30-2003, 07:06 AM	#22
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06-30-2003, 09:09 AM	#23
Scherfi Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PornStudio Posts: 868	what about making thumbs smaller than 25k???? just a thought ;)