If someone asks how to start a business which directly competes, would you help? - GoFuckYourself.com

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:24 PM

Lets say someone basically was asking you all the questions and wanted the contacts to basically start the same business you're running and compete directly with you, would you help them?

Someone basically tried to get me to explain everything to them and even asked for my contacts as to who would allow them to use the content on a reselling/leasing basis.

I thought about it for a while and came to the conclusion that the guy was an idiot for even attempting to get the information out of me as to how it would all work.

The worst part was how sneaky they were about it, like they knew it was wrong and i wouldnt help them but still tried to get the information out of me by asking not so direct questions to answer the questions i would never answer if asked directly..

I just found it pretty interesting how low some of the people on this board can be.

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:26 PM

Not to mention some clowns who i was supposed to partner with then decided against having me as a partner and stole all my ideas for the affiliate site.

You know who you are.. pretty cheap/low/scummy

freeadultcontent · 06-14-2003, 06:28 PM

Use paperwork, have a lawyer you will use, and then get a cut of what they make. Then sure help them out.

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Not to mention some clowns who i was supposed to partner with then decided against having me as a partner and stole all my ideas for the affiliate site.

You know who you are.. pretty cheap/low/scummy

Thats what you get when you trust people with high post counts who seem to be legit and have a decent rep on the board.

Mr.Fiction · 06-14-2003, 06:31 PM

I'm not going to answer your question, you might be my competition. Why should I help you?

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I'm not going to answer your question, you might be my competition. Why should I help you?

lol, this is completely different.. im not asking you how to directly compete with you and being totally sneaky about it.

freeadultcontent · 06-14-2003, 06:33 PM

Would you have felt better if they said. "I am going to open up shop and compete with you, so spill your tricks bitch?"

Dveron · 06-14-2003, 06:36 PM

loose lips sink ships

Brujah · 06-14-2003, 06:36 PM

People with high posts counts, can be trusted.

quiet · 06-14-2003, 06:37 PM

Mr.Fiction · 06-14-2003, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
People with high posts counts, can be trusted.

And people with low post counts can't.

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Would you have felt better if they said. "I am going to open up shop and compete with you, so spill your tricks bitch?"

Well, atleast i know you wouldnt have been trying to take me for an idiot and you would have gotten a little more respect out of me and quite possible a little bit of help although i wouldnt have said much as i could.

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
People with high posts counts, can be trusted.

Thats what i thought until i was booted out of the partnership and all my ideas were stolen

freeadultcontent · 06-14-2003, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe

Well, atleast i know you wouldnt have been trying to take me for an idiot and you would have gotten a little more respect out of me and quite possible a little bit of help although i wouldnt have said much as i could.

I respect that.

Brujah · 06-14-2003, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe

Thats what i thought until i was booted out of the partnership and all my ideas were stolen

Natural selection.

IntenseCash · 06-14-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
People with high posts counts, can be trusted.

I think thats bullshit... what if someone who has been in this biz for years... has a good rap and does not post on GFY. You cant go by that, word of mouth is still the best way.

my

Theo · 06-14-2003, 06:48 PM

you can trust me,i have more posts than most of you here

<---- trust

Theo · 06-14-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by IntenseCash

I think thats bullshit... what if someone who has been in this biz for years... has a good rap and does not post on GFY. You cant go by that, word of mouth is still the best way.

my

you do not know,you barely have 400 posts

wait to reach 1k

cherrylula · 06-14-2003, 06:50 PM

'Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.'

-Miss Information

Mr.Fiction · 06-14-2003, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by IntenseCash

I think thats bullshit... what if someone who has been in this biz for years... has a good rap and does not post on GFY. You cant go by that, word of mouth is still the best way.

my

Sounds like the person you are describing might be a little shady. Anyone with years in the business would have a high post count at GFY. If he or she doesn't, you have to wonder what they're hiding.

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

you do not know,you barely have 400 posts

wait to reach 1k

nice, lets jump into bed together!

Theo · 06-14-2003, 06:51 PM

quiet
Mr.Fiction
freeadultcontent
Brujah

are different they have > 1000 posts

don't you see the difference? wtf

IntenseCash · 06-14-2003, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Sounds like the person you are describing might be a little shady. Anyone with years in the business would have a high post count at GFY. If he or she doesn't, you have to wonder what they're hiding.

LOL so all you guys are saying that anyone that has been in this Business for 3 plus years knows about GFY? Bullshit... not everyone does! I found GFY in January, but didnt decide to post until April

Theo · 06-14-2003, 06:56 PM

no wonder some of you get scammed all day

next time you'll do some business with someone

politely ask him how many posts he has at gfy

Mr.Fiction · 06-14-2003, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
no wonder some of you get scammed all day

next time you'll do some business with someone

politely ask him how many posts he has at gfy

If only people would follow your simple rule.

freeadultcontent · 06-14-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
no wonder some of you get scammed all day

next time you'll do some business with someone

politely ask him how many posts he has at gfy

Damn Soul, if that was true and I posted here when you first found me, I could have like 13,000 posts too.

Dveron · 06-14-2003, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Anyone with years in the business would have a high post count at GFY. If he or she doesn't, you have to wonder what they're hiding.

You serious?

Brujah · 06-14-2003, 07:04 PM

I don't trust anyone that doesn't post at GFY. It's just not good business sense.

Theo · 06-14-2003, 07:04 PM

thanks Mr.Fiction

it's the first thing i ask

I have developed a trust-scale based on # at gfy

10.000+ i will trust you even my ass (equinox is left out on this)
6.000-9.999 great trust, most probably nothing bad will ever occur
3.000-5.999 noticable trust, we can do business
1.000-2.999 i have started to noticing your existance, but I won't do business with you
500-999 there is a hope
100-499 you leave my ignore list, but do not hope for anything more
1-99 you are in my ignore list
0 you are dead, you don't exist

1407 · 06-14-2003, 07:05 PM

I have been in this biz now for more then 4 years
and I do help a lot of newbees.
-How to start up
-how to generate hit
and so on

But everybody has to find there own way
And there is no point for me in telling anybody
how to "copy-and-paste" my work.

And
To all of you who use signatures with refercode.
It is plain fucking stupid.
(did you ever make money on it ?

)
Do you know what an over exposed sponsor is ?
All you do is branding the sponsor

So if you dont run you own program
Save the refer code for some who is asking for it

Theo · 06-14-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent

Damn Soul, if that was true and I posted here when you first found me, I could have like 13,000 posts too.

hi FAC

big mistake! but you are not in that bad range

"1.000-2.999 i have started to noticing your existance, but I won't do business with you"

Ketadream · 06-14-2003, 07:08 PM

Non disclosure agreements are a good thing..

1407 · 06-14-2003, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
I don't trust anyone that doesn't post at GFY. It's just not good business sense.

Brujah · 06-14-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1407
I have been in this biz now for more then 4 years
and I do help a lot of newbees.
-How to start up
-how to generate hit
and so on

But everybody has to find there own way
And there is no point for me in telling anybody
how to "copy-and-paste" my work.

And
To all of you who use signatures with refercode.
It is plain fucking stupid.
(did you ever make money on it ? )
Do you know what an over exposed sponsor is ?
All you do is branding the sponsor

So if you dont run you own program
Save the refer code for some who is asking for it

You have 5 posts.

You aren't allowed to speak yet.

TheJimmy · 06-14-2003, 07:11 PM

fuck NO

...period...

well ok, unless they offered me 49% of their business that was written up and approved by my lawyer...

Theo · 06-14-2003, 07:12 PM

Brujah, thanks for quoting 1407

i have him on my ignore list,it seems he has less than 100

after reading his post i'll leave him on ignore till he reach 1000

1407 · 06-14-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

You have 5 posts.

You aren't allowed to speak yet.

I have been reading GFY before you where born

Dveron · 06-14-2003, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Brujah, thanks for quoting 1407

i have him on my ignore list,it seems he has less than 100

after reading his post i'll leave him on ignore till he reach 1000

Don't do any business with a guy called fantasyman, he only has 680 posts.

Theo · 06-14-2003, 07:15 PM

1407 i can't read your posts......

go play on another thread, test your signature till you reach 100 posts and i will see the light

this thread is for premium members

thank you

Brujah · 06-14-2003, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1407

I have been reading GFY before you where born

ok charly

Theo · 06-14-2003, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron

Don't do any business with a guy called fantasyman, he only has 680 posts.

thanks bro for the warning

i won't

1407 · 06-14-2003, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
1407 i can't read your posts......

You dont have to

Glass Fantasy · 06-14-2003, 07:21 PM

notjoe,

Really good post. I was going to post something similar at one time, but never really found the words for it.

You shouldn't help them unless you see the favor coming back around in the future. Or, you could help them a little....Keep your enemies close, but don't give away your bread and butter. Make them find their own contacts. If they're any good, they will be able to find contacts themselves.

Again, GREAT POST amidst the fog

notjoe · 06-14-2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Glass Fantasy
notjoe,

Really good post. I was going to post something similar at one time, but never really found the words for it.

You shouldn't help them unless you see the favor coming back around in the future. Or, you could help them a little....Keep your enemies close, but don't give away your bread and butter. Make them find their own contacts. If they're any good, they will be able to find contacts themselves.

Again, GREAT POST amidst the fog

Thanks, i was bound to make a good post sooner or later, it only took me about 1400 posts to do so ;)

StupidFuckingWhore · 06-14-2003, 07:26 PM

heh, i'd be more willing to trust someone who didn't post on gfy, a lot of 'my dick is bigger than yours' bullshit and other retarded crap goes on, tho there are some informative posts as well.

as for helping ppl out, the only time i would is if they were a good friends i knew in person who needed some money, i tried to show a couple friends how to start out and make money in this business but both failed, i set up the sites and everything but they didn't keep it up, expected to make money from doing nothing.

Brujah · 06-14-2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore
heh, i'd be more willing to trust someone who didn't post on gfy, a lot of 'my dick is bigger than yours' bullshit and other retarded crap goes on, tho there are some informative posts as well.

Ok, StupidFuckingWhore.

Quote:

as for helping ppl out, the only time i would is if they were a good friends i knew in person who needed some money, i tried to show a couple friends how to start out and make money in this business but both failed, i set up the sites and everything but they didn't keep it up, expected to make money from doing nothing.

Maybe they just needed a better teacher ? It's not hard to make a dollar in this business.

StupidFuckingWhore · 06-14-2003, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

Maybe they just needed a better teacher ? It's not hard to make a dollar in this business.

maybe, tho it didn't help that they were practically computer illiterate either. i don't know, i was quite successful and i had no one at all helping me.

Glass Fantasy · 06-14-2003, 07:35 PM

Here comes the 'my dick is bigger than yours contest'.

1407 · 06-14-2003, 07:38 PM

>Brujah

Quote:

Originally posted by 1407

I have been reading GFY before you where born

Just made a check on your sig
I take it back

lEricPl · 06-14-2003, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Glass Fantasy
Here comes the 'my dick is bigger than yours contest'.

I'm happy being average.

06-14-2003, 06:24 PM	#1
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	If someone asks how to start a business which directly competes, would you help? Lets say someone basically was asking you all the questions and wanted the contacts to basically start the same business you're running and compete directly with you, would you help them? Someone basically tried to get me to explain everything to them and even asked for my contacts as to who would allow them to use the content on a reselling/leasing basis. I thought about it for a while and came to the conclusion that the guy was an idiot for even attempting to get the information out of me as to how it would all work. The worst part was how sneaky they were about it, like they knew it was wrong and i wouldnt help them but still tried to get the information out of me by asking not so direct questions to answer the questions i would never answer if asked directly.. I just found it pretty interesting how low some of the people on this board can be.

06-14-2003, 06:28 PM	#3
freeadultcontent Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: "evitcepsrep ruoy egnahc" Posts: 9,976	Use paperwork, have a lawyer you will use, and then get a cut of what they make. Then sure help them out. __________________ Exclusive Ethnic & Microniche Sites

06-14-2003, 06:33 PM	#7
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06-14-2003, 06:36 PM	#9
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06-14-2003, 07:04 PM	#28
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	I don't trust anyone that doesn't post at GFY. It's just not good business sense. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

06-14-2003, 06:26 PM	#2
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Not to mention some clowns who i was supposed to partner with then decided against having me as a partner and stole all my ideas for the affiliate site. You know who you are.. pretty cheap/low/scummy

06-14-2003, 06:31 PM	#5
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	I'm not going to answer your question, you might be my competition. Why should I help you?

06-14-2003, 06:36 PM	#8
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	loose lips sink ships

06-14-2003, 06:37 PM	#10
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	no

06-14-2003, 06:48 PM	#17
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you can trust me,i have more posts than most of you here <---- trust

06-14-2003, 06:50 PM	#19
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	'Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.' -Miss Information

06-14-2003, 06:51 PM	#22
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	quiet Mr.Fiction freeadultcontent Brujah are different they have > 1000 posts don't you see the difference? wtf

06-14-2003, 06:56 PM	#24
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	no wonder some of you get scammed all day next time you'll do some business with someone politely ask him how many posts he has at gfy

06-14-2003, 07:05 PM	#30
1407 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 103	I have been in this biz now for more then 4 years and I do help a lot of newbees. -How to start up -how to generate hit and so on But everybody has to find there own way And there is no point for me in telling anybody how to "copy-and-paste" my work. And To all of you who use signatures with refercode. It is plain fucking stupid. (did you ever make money on it ? ) Do you know what an over exposed sponsor is ? All you do is branding the sponsor So if you dont run you own program Save the refer code for some who is asking for it

06-14-2003, 07:08 PM	#32
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Non disclosure agreements are a good thing.. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-14-2003, 07:11 PM	#35
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	fuck NO ...period... well ok, unless they offered me 49% of their business that was written up and approved by my lawyer... __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

06-14-2003, 07:12 PM	#36
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Brujah, thanks for quoting 1407 i have him on my ignore list,it seems he has less than 100 after reading his post i'll leave him on ignore till he reach 1000

06-14-2003, 07:15 PM	#39
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	1407 i can't read your posts...... go play on another thread, test your signature till you reach 100 posts and i will see the light this thread is for premium members thank you Last edited by Theo; 06-14-2003 at 07:20 PM..

06-14-2003, 07:21 PM	#43
Glass Fantasy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 259	notjoe, Really good post. I was going to post something similar at one time, but never really found the words for it. You shouldn't help them unless you see the favor coming back around in the future. Or, you could help them a little....Keep your enemies close, but don't give away your bread and butter. Make them find their own contacts. If they're any good, they will be able to find contacts themselves. Again, GREAT POST amidst the fog

06-14-2003, 07:26 PM	#45
StupidFuckingWhore Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 233	heh, i'd be more willing to trust someone who didn't post on gfy, a lot of 'my dick is bigger than yours' bullshit and other retarded crap goes on, tho there are some informative posts as well. as for helping ppl out, the only time i would is if they were a good friends i knew in person who needed some money, i tried to show a couple friends how to start out and make money in this business but both failed, i set up the sites and everything but they didn't keep it up, expected to make money from doing nothing.

06-14-2003, 07:35 PM	#48
Glass Fantasy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 259	Here comes the 'my dick is bigger than yours contest'.