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Old 06-28-2003, 06:21 PM   #1
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Adult SEO Services now available - Get into the top 10 of Google/AOLSearch?

After being flooded with so many requests - I am making myself available for search engine optimization consulting. You can see my services available here:

http://www.dailymovielinks.com/adult-seo.html

Contact me if you want to rank in the top 10 of your ultimate relevant keyword(s)
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:24 PM   #2
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Are you strictly adult sites, or adult dating as well?
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:27 PM   #3
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I love people that do jobs like this, NO ONE can guarantee you a top 10 result.


Search engine work takes months to do and refine to make it perfect.


I dont give a rats ass about what program you think will do it, because as your selling the top 10 space, so are 5000 other companies.



Search engines are changing so much and their formulas, there is NO ONE who can guarantee you a top 10 -placement for any keyword ever except the search engine itself.



Old scam people used to do, people still buy into this crap?
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:28 PM   #4
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do we pay before or after the results ?
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:30 PM   #6
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And thats wherein the scam lies...

You pay before heh look at his site once...
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:31 PM   #7
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If he can get his OWN domain onto google or AOL for the search term Search Engine Optimization then give him a shot...

If not then why would you hire someone who cant even optimise their own site...









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Well he/she is doing something right. I notice a Top #10 in the AOL/Amazon/Google/Yahoo suit for keywords "porn movies"
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hahaha and the pagerank for your site is 4. I'll bet you're a pro.
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I love people that do jobs like this, NO ONE can guarantee you a top 10 result.


Search engine work takes months to do and refine to make it perfect.


I dont give a rats ass about what program you think will do it, because as your selling the top 10 space, so are 5000 other companies.



Search engines are changing so much and their formulas, there is NO ONE who can guarantee you a top 10 -placement for any keyword ever except the search engine itself.



Old scam people used to do, people still buy into this crap?
You are right it does take several months to achieve your goals - that is why the term is for 6 months

I am not selling space LOL I am optimizing THEIR sites so they rank in the top 10 - not using software - if you read the info you would see I use proven, widely accepted ranking techniques that any successful company would use if they had the knowledge themselves to do it.

Search engines are constantly changing as everything does in this business however there are certain ranking techniques which will ensure high rankings for the long term. And again this is why 6 months of monitoring and improvement is included.


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If you read in more detail you would see that the paysite plan is $1000 + a permanent ongoing residual %
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:35 PM   #11
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Well he/she is doing something right. I notice a Top #10 in the AOL/Amazon/Google/Yahoo suit for keywords "porn movies"
Yea Brujah and you know as well as I do its only because he has keywords in his domain name.


I want to see fuckme.com optimised for


Coca Cola


And make it top 10, then Ill believe it
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:35 PM   #12
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if you are flooded with so many requests why do you have to spam it? lol
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:38 PM   #13
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I expected all the cheap insecure flames LOL

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hahaha and the pagerank for your site is 4. I'll bet you're a pro.
#1 This site has only been a moviepost for 4-5 months now

#2 I am at the top end of the PR4

#3 There are only a couple of pr6 adult sites left now that google has adjusted their PR calculations. There are a few dozen 5's. So 4 is worth much more these days.

As you can see dailymovielinks.com ranks #8 for 'free porn movies' and #8 for porn movies, #1 for 'teen porn movies' etc etc

And no I do not deal with non-adult sites or dating sites.
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:40 PM   #14
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And if i have a url called blackwidgetscrews


then... well no shit, for the search terms black widget screws Ill be #1 probably
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Yea Brujah and you know as well as I do its only because he has keywords in his domain name.
If you think that simply having your kw's in the domain is going to make any difference you are joking yourself. The main reason sites rank higher because they have the kw in their domain is because most trades link to the site using the domain name and linking to a site with that specific kw text improves ranking for that kw.

Same reason Call-Kelly is ranked #2 for 'Hardcore Sex'

And BTW I am a guy
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:45 PM   #16
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I know alot of domains that dont trade any links that have top se position for many different adult search terms...
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A term of 6 months?

After that amount of time who's to say a webmaster's own hard work on their site didn't result in the higher placement if there is any?

Obviously if someone is willing to pay those prices, they are pretty serious about their site as it is. So the webmaster gets there himself, but credits the SE guy he bought who may or may not have done a damn thing.

Think these SE guys can get websites into the top 10 that are run by webmasters who put in 10 minutes a day b/c they don't care about their sites? If this is such a science, then they should be able to. Thus proving it's the SE guy, and not the webmaster improving the rankings.
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:55 PM   #18
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Yea Brujah and you know as well as I do its only because he has keywords in his domain name.


I want to see fuckme.com optimised for


Coca Cola


And make it top 10, then Ill believe it
Heh. You'd be amazed. Stick with designs, you're better at it.
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i think it will be better to wait to get similar results with 2-3 more domains (if you havent already), so your word will be more promising. SEO does exist,it's not everything by luck and $2k is not that much if the result is achived.
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This is some hilarious stuff LOL

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6 month term?

After that amount of time who's to say a webmaster's own hard work on their site didn't result in the higher placement if there is any?

Obviously if someone is willing to pay those prices, they are pretty serious about their site as it is. So the webmaster gets there himself, but credits the SE guy he bought who may or may not have done a damn thing.
How could a site's SE rankings improve if they suck now and the webmaster doesn't know how to improve them? LOL

and I said you can expect results in 45 days LOL
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i think it will be better to wait to get similar results with 2-3 more domains (if you havent already), so your word will be more promising. SEO does exist,it's not everything by luck and $2k is not that much if the result is achived.
You are damn straight $2k is a steal!

Other sites? Well how about this - my link list which is only 3 months old comes up #5 for 'porn links' #6 for 'free porn links', #29 for 'porn' and #38 for 'free porn' etc etc
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If he can get his OWN domain onto google or AOL for the search term Search Engine Optimization then give him a shot...

If not then why would you hire someone who cant even optimise their own site...
I just put up the info site today - also I am not TRYING hard to rank it - though I am sure it will get some traffic once freshbot picks it up

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You pay before.
Same with buying most services in this industry.

I wish I could buy traffic from a broker and tell them that I will pay them if it converts or a stock if I only have to pay for it if it goes up

This is an investment.
The risk is low and the reward is high.
Contact me if you want to make more money from your sites.
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Old 06-28-2003, 07:41 PM   #23
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I want to know one thing, how he expects to get in the top ten of google seeing as google surely appears to be using dynamic ranking now and all ranks are changing on an hourly basis. Does he guarantee that yers will be top 10 for an hour a day or what?

Also seeing as he seems to be guaranteeing that they will be top 10 he shouldnt have a problem taking your cash until after he has you there.
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I know alot of domains that dont trade any links that have top se position for many different adult search terms...

Most of those domains are done by Freshbot spiders and the backlinks haven't been calculated yet. Similiarly for those domains which have top rankings and have no PR.

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Because I know the adult business well and I that is where my existing relationships are.

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I want to know one thing, how he expects to get in the top ten of google seeing as google surely appears to be using dynamic ranking now and all ranks are changing on an hourly basis. Does he guarantee that yers will be top 10 for an hour a day or what?
You can expect results within 45 days - within 6 months you will be in the top 10 of your desired kw and/or equivalent position in the MOST popular kw's - porn, free porn, sex, free sex, etc

Because I am using the widely accepted ranking techniques - you can expect to see you rankings maintain their positions for the long term. Obviously if you have major competition arise for your kw's some improvement or modifications will need to be done. But for the most part with free sites your rankings won't flucatuate that much and will be constantly improved if anything because you will see the techniques I have used and will be able to continue using them yourself. I will also be available for telephone consultations etc if I am needed.

Bottom line is that you will make an ROI before the 6 month period even ends.

And it is not yet confirmed that Google is updating it's index dynamically YET - however when this change does occur it will only mean you will see results even faster
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thanks for the tips jojojo..

I think I do it myself now.

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what happens when 11 people hire you for a certain search term?
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After being flooded with so many requests - I am making myself available for search engine optimization consulting. You can see my services available here:

http://www.dailymovielinks.com/adult-seo.html

Contact me if you want to rank in the top 10 of your ultimate relevant keyword(s)
People are always claiming things like this but no one ever wants to put up. It's always, "Cash first, results later". If you can really do this, why sell it to other people? Even putting that aside, if you can really do this why not do the first one for free or on a revshare setup? You would definitely get more in repeat business than you would lose up-front. Can you only do this for large free sites/paysites with lots of internal pages or could you get an FPA up there?

Tell you what, do it for me on a fresh domain with a fresh site, I'll send 75% of banner clicks to your sponsor account and send plenty more business your way. With all the false claims about search engine optimization, you're going to have a rough time getting the GFY crowd to pony up the cash up front.

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And it is not yet confirmed that Google is updating it's index dynamically YET - however when this change does occur it will only mean you will see results even faster
Obviously you have not been watching the google index very closely at all over the last several weeks. Heres a tip: watch all 8 datacenters frequently at the same time. Then again who knows, maybe google is just in perpetual and permanent dance mode.

You might do better with this proposal on a newbie board, than coming to one where the majority have at least an inkling of things...
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one question: is this page optimized for anything at all?

http://www.dailymovielinks.com/adult-seo.html
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Oohhhh Nuc,

You're being hard on the poor boy!

I have always charged for SEO in advance. However, my contracts have always stipulated that there are NO Guarantees of specific ranking. Meaning, TOP 10 or TOP 5.

Unrealistic. I've been doing SEO since Webposition and Fredrick Marckini did the deal for the first extensive "SEO" Guide back in '97.

There's still no guarantees for TOP 10 unless you're doing biz dev or sponsored link shiz.

But, what do I know. Maybe ya can't teach old dogs new tricks!
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I actually have a new site I was looking to optimize. It has serious potential and fresh keywords that I would think not too many have tried for yet.

I clicked on the link, thinking "Well shit I could drop $500, that's only 15 signups."

But $2000 for a free site? At $35 per pop that is a lot to put up front, especially from someone I have never heard of before.

It does seem standard that you need a LOT of bucks to get someone good to help you with your site.

What do I know, anyway
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jojojo is funny

a month ago he was asking newbie questions on webmasterworld.com and now claims he is an expert. Heh.


I charge $200 for SEO advices. I won't optimise your site but I'll give you instructions and directions what to do. Top #50 is guaranteed.


P.S. Expect to spend 10 days on 1 site. No cheat methods involved. It's simple hard work and I'll only direct you in the right way.



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i have #3 spot for a keyword that blows away "porn movies" lol

pr4

does that mean people will hire me for SEO? HAHAHA
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well jeez if its instant results you wanted to pay for .. you should have looked at my posts a couple days ago

I ALREADY HAVE the listings .. (top 10's - most top 5's for about a year steady - 2 word terms without the word FREE *shiver*)

and i was selling top banner spots, hows that for instant results lol

ah well .. ya snooze ya loose ;)
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After being flooded with so many requests - I am making myself available for search engine optimization consulting. You can see my services available here:

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Contact me if you want to rank in the top 10 of your ultimate relevant keyword(s)
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If you can really do this, why sell it to other people? Even putting that aside, if you can really do this why not do the first one for free or on a revshare setup?
I am optimization their sites as I do my own - I am not selling them anything. I do not NEED to do the first one revshare, I already have people commited to hiring me since I posted this. I also have my own sites as evidence of my success.

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Tell you what, do it for me on a fresh domain with a fresh site, I'll send 75% of banner clicks to your sponsor account and send plenty more business your way.
Are you talking about a freesite or a paysite?
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I am using the top ten as a general reference and I said top 10 for relevant kw or equivalent ranking for a tier 1 kw like 'porn' 'free porn' 'sex' 'free sex' 'hardcore sex' etc

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I clicked on the link, thinking "Well shit I could drop $500, that's only 15 signups."

But $2000 for a free site? At $35 per pop that is a lot to put up front, especially from someone I have never heard of before.
I'm not sure how long you plan out in advance for your business but you can expect at least $1000/mth increase every month. If you get little to no SE traffic right now you can expect much more.
Do you think $2000 one time is worth making $12,000/year? You may never have heard of me but you can see my sites and where they rank in google.

I would like to give a big shout out to all the people who posted the hilarious childish, frustrated, insecure, and useless comments and insults in this thread - thanks for bumping it for me
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I'm not sure how long you plan out in advance for your business but you can expect at least $1000/mth increase every month. If you get little to no SE traffic right now you can expect much more.
Do you think $2000 one time is worth making $12,000/year?
How can you quantitatively state that you can expect at least $1k/month without seeing the sites up front? More importantly, if you can guarantee these kinds of ROI, why would you sell this service? It seems to make much better business sense to repeat your model of achieving top rankings over and over again for every sponsor out there.

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Old 06-29-2003, 02:10 AM   #41
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How can you quantitatively state that you can expect at least $1k/month without seeing the sites up front? More importantly, if you can guarantee these kinds of ROI, why would you sell this service? It seems to make much better business sense to repeat your model of achieving top rankings over and over again for every sponsor out there.
I can use that number of at least $1000/mth because I run my own moviepost and I have seen the increases first hand in traffic and revenue. I am not interested in maintaing 50+ free sites. I have my own non-public SE sites that I have ranked and will continue to build and rank my own sites endlessly
However if you have an existing tgp or moviepost and you want to increase your rankings/revenues - I am your man.
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:13 AM   #42
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I'm not sure how long you plan out in advance for your business but you can expect at least $1000/mth increase every month.
Excuse me!! How they fuck do you justify making such bullshit statements when you clearly have little idea what you are talking about??

Also, if you are "flooded by many requests" and have relationships with webmaster in the adult field, why are you trying to get work thru GFY?

You *may* well provide a decent SEO job, but that is not evidenced by the comments so far. Sorry.. there is no way you would be within 1 mile of my office.

BUT.. Wish you well!!
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:15 AM   #43
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I can use that number of at least $1000/mth because I run my own moviepost and I have seen the increases first hand in traffic and revenue.
Ah.. I see.. enough said!
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:19 AM   #44
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Webby: as far as increasing by at least $1000/mth see the above reply LOL

I love these 'don't know what you are talking about' comments LOL. All you have to do is a simple google search for 'porn movies' or 'teen porn movies' and you will see for yourself where my sites rank LOL

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Because so many people have been asking me to do it for them - I realized that there is a gap in the market that I can fill - apparently I was correct from the people ICQing to hire me
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:19 AM   #45
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Are you talking about a freesite or a paysite?
I was thinking of a free site or something really minimal such as a simple 3-gallery AVS or similar. If it works as advertised on 1-2 test sites I'd be willing to throw larger projects your way possibly including paysites. I, myself, hate fucking around with search engines and if anyone could actually deliver what you claim to be able to do, I would be glad to work with them long term. The important thing is that you can produce results on reasonably competitive keywords. Even I can occasionally bring myself to tweak a site for decent listings under things like "free fishnet stockings galleries", the test is getting up there for "hardcore movies", "cumshot pics", etc.

The catch is, I've seen claims like this a thousand times and I have yet to hear of (or experience) anyone who actually gets the job done.

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Old 06-29-2003, 02:23 AM   #46
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Just what exactly is the "high end of PR4"? And how does one determine whether they're on the low end, the high end, or somewhere in the middle?

This reply page that I'm looking at right now on GFY has a PR4. Not PR4.45, or PR4.79... just 4.

That's the first time I've EVER heard that line... "high end"... and it truly sounds like a steaming pile of freshly made shit.
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:29 AM   #47
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I was thinking of a free site or something really minimal such as a simple 3-gallery AVS or similar. If it works as advertised on 1-2 test sites I'd be willing to throw larger projects your way possibly including paysites. I, myself, hate fucking around with search engines and if anyone could actually deliver what you claim to be able to do, I would be glad to work with them long term. The important thing is that you can produce results on reasonably competitive keywords. Even I can occasionally bring myself to tweak a site for decent listings under things like "free fishnet stockings galleries", the test is getting up there for "hardcore movies", "cumshot pics", etc.
ICQ me so we can chat - I have seen your posts on GFYin the past but I am not sure what sites you run and who you are etc - I am not in a position where I need to do this but if you are a big enough player and there is indeed as much potential business as you claim there is I may be willing to work with you.
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:34 AM   #48
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I love these 'don't know what you are talking about' comments LOL. All you have to do is a simple google search for 'porn movies' or 'teen porn movies' and you will see for yourself where my sites rank LOL
There is nothing you have said that indicates that you are a SEO "expert".

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Because so many people have been asking me to do it for them - I realized that there is a gap in the market that I can fill - apparently I was correct from the people ICQing to hire me
As I am sure you are aware the time involved to handle this kinda puts the reply to "because so many people have been asking me" to rest. If this was the case.. you would have no time to sleep and you certainly would not have time to waste here looking for work.

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Old 06-29-2003, 02:35 AM   #49
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Just what exactly is the "high end of PR4"? And how does one determine whether they're on the low end, the high end, or somewhere in the middle?

This reply page that I'm looking at right now on GFY has a PR4. Not PR4.45, or PR4.79... just 4.

That's the first time I've EVER heard that line... "high end"... and it truly sounds like a steaming pile of freshly made shit.
Site A has 70 *backlinks and is a PR4 in the toolbar
Site B has 40 *backlinks and is a PR4 in the toolbar

Site A is on the high-end of 4 and is only a few backlinks away from becoming a 5. It will rank higher than site B if they are compteting for the same kw and all other factors are equal.

*not all backlinks are equal obviously - assuming they had backlinks from the exact same 40 sites but site A had 30 more from other sites.
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:36 AM   #50
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The catch is, I've seen claims like this a thousand times and I have yet to hear of (or experience) anyone who actually gets the job done.
I agree, it's all too common to see people claim they're an SEO, ask for payment up front and not be able to deliver on single or double keyword phrases. Best of luck finding the SEO for your site(s).

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