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machineg · 06-23-2003, 01:47 PM

Does topbucks allow spam ?
I just got a spam from an affiliate . and there is no way in hell , I opted in for it .

SleazyDream · 06-23-2003, 01:48 PM

do you allow cucumbers to be broken off in your asshole 12 inches in?

machineg · 06-23-2003, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
do you allow cucumbers to be broken off in your asshole 12 inches in?

Only if your holding it

I ask because I got spammed .. not cause I want to spam ..
I am just wondering how the affiliate thinks I opted in for this mail .. I get enough crap from diplomas and mortage companies .. now porn spam too ..

Rich · 06-23-2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
And don't even think about unjoining their shit cause it wont work.

http://64.89.16.104/cgi-bin/[email protected]

and btw PSW billing you should really toughen your security as that was the email I used when I tested my signup forms for my paysites.

interesting

Shoplifter · 06-23-2003, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by machineg
Does topbucks allow spam ?
I just got a spam from an affiliate . and there is no way in hell , I opted in for it .

Yes, one of the reasons I dropped them.

beavis · 06-23-2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
do you allow cucumbers to be broken off in your asshole 12 inches in?

I can't stop laughing......

Allison · 06-23-2003, 02:07 PM

machineg and Mystery Man- please forward me the spam email you received from one of our affiliates so we can look into it further.

As you can see by the reply regarding our remove list, we also have specific terms that all email advertising accounts are required to abide by and any accounts that violate these terms are supsended.

~Alli

Rich · 06-23-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Allison
machineg and Mystery Man- please forward me the spam email you received from one of our affiliates so we can look into it further.

As you can see by the reply regarding our remove list, we also have specific terms that all email advertising accounts are required to abide by and any accounts that violate these terms are supsended.

~Alli

Yeah, forward the spam complaints to the company that allows spamming, stupid. Don't post it publicly and give them a bad name for, uh, allowing spam.

Dveron · 06-23-2003, 02:27 PM

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Now since you cut me of because of a broken unjoin link and the fact that I hadn't been told about the terms

Terms are on the site bub.

Dveron · 06-23-2003, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man

Grashopper go play elsewhere

No.

http://www.topbucks.com/remove_list/README.txt

Mr.Fiction · 06-23-2003, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
Yes they do

But keep in mind that if you do mail for them you need to clean your lists with these removes

http://www.topbucks.com/remove_list/

This is funny:

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT MAIL TO THE GLOBAL REMOVE LIST

Dveron · 06-23-2003, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man

Grashopper if you knew all the facts of this story I just might would want to listen what you have to say, but since you don't just be gone OK!

Shoplifter · 06-23-2003, 03:06 PM

If Topbucks and other sponsors took the cash out of spam it would be gone.

Debating whether or not a broken remove link is important is ridiculous. Each surfer is faced with hundreds of different remove links to different stolen lists. It is impossible to be removed from all mailings.

If a program like Topbucks allows mailings they should only use verified opt in addresses (the client opts in at the Topbucks web site), and then provide that list only to affiliates.

Allowing these guys to police their own lists of stolen addresses is asking for trouble.

Quentin · 06-23-2003, 03:30 PM

To clarify, we do not allow spam, period. We do allow valid email promotions via opt-in lists, provided that the webmaster/company sending the mail adheres to our terms - see
http://www.topbucks.com/remove_list/README.txt - and filters against our global remove list.

If you receive unsolicited email promoting our sites, simply forward it to [email protected] and we will see to it that the spammer's account is terminated, and their sales revenue forfeited.

- Q.

Why · 06-23-2003, 04:02 PM

this is really a tough issue.

they do allow bulk emailing, but at least they are forcing people to go by certain rules, which at least adds some sort of structure to it all. however, it is hard for them to catch all the cheaters. so instead of bitching, why dont you help them catch those that are forging headers, and stealin gbandwidth? instead of attacking them?

and as far as bitching at her to cancel accounts. maybe you pissed in her cheerios and thats why she canned your ass? try being a little nicer when you get pissed and dont piss people off in the heat of the moment. only time i been cancelled i called the fuckers up, asked why, and then told them they can tell me in vegas to my face why they broke a deal saying i could mail for them. consequentially they paid me. i didnt threaten just told them that was fucked to walk out on a previous business deal because some fuck tard bitched.

a lot of you are NOT mailers, so you dont know WTF is going on in this particular part of the game. mail headers are sooo fucking easy to forge and then report to sponsors just to get certain accounts cancelled. its not even funny. partially because very few can read a header and know if its real or not, and then verify that it is. send me 50 accounts at random from any programs, i can forge you a header, and email, and everything else you need to go bitch at them. other fuckers seed lists that they sell with email addresses' for the sole purpose of hurting the other persons partnerships with sponsors. the possibilties are endless. so dont bitch about shit you fuckers dont know about.

Furthermore who gives a fuck who is spamming who isnt, and who is making the money off it. For all the people that hate spam, there are just as many that hate tgps and giving away of free porn. If you spent more time making your own damned bag of loot, and less worrying about others youd all be a lot better off. no wait dont do that, leave more of the pie open for the rest of us to pick up and walk away with while you dorks have your backs turned.

The fact will always remain the same, if im sending a sponsor 100 joins a day, not a fucking chance on your life they will cancelled me without pay. because 100 joins a day or more is a BIG fucking hit to take revenue wise. Let alone pissing on someone that has sent you probably tens of thousands of $$$ in revenue. That you have probably discussed thier mailings with, and have openly accepted. Instead youll just add the person to the remove file and make sure the mailer doesnt hit them again. Because thats a business relationship FEW would walk away from. Open up your eyes. this shit was built on spam, and still grows daily because of it. embrace it.

if you cant handle spam get the fuck off the internet.

Why · 06-23-2003, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man

Sadly that is not gonna change the fact that this thread will end up as an evidence file on Spamhaus, Spews etc next month.

But hey! You should be happy you made it to ROKSO on Spamhaus, that takes class

is that a fucking threat? who is gonna put it there? who is going to send them a link?

Why · 06-23-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
And in a way you should too, as you have no freakin clue about my situation with topbucks.

Hey dipshit, you drug it out into a public forum. and it appears that you pissed her off, and she holds a grudge. just like you do, so wtf? only differance is, she is the hand that feeds.

(or works for that hand at least)

JDog · 06-23-2003, 04:20 PM

No spamming is permitted; your email list must be opt-in, double opt-in is preferred.

I think that means NO SPAMMING? That is in the Terms and Conditions. But then you could've opt-in for a mail list that somebody bought or sold.

jDoG

Why · 06-23-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by JDog
But then you could've opt-in for a mail list that somebody bought or sold.

Finally. someone with a brain. congrats....

TOS of most sites, "i agree to be marketted to by this site and ANY affiliated sites"(the sort of it all)

Quentin · 06-23-2003, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man

Well to bring you up 2 date I could first tell you that I didn't piss off Alli, Alli infact told me that I would get paid the owed amount.... Well that was just until the next morning anyways, when they had changed their mind on me and about 3 other mailers.

And as you say who would want to break up a business where you get anywhere from 30-100 new trials a day.

Well to answer that question... Topbucks would.

Let's see - you were shut down once for violating our terms by using misleading subject lines, and violating trademarks and copyrights of other US corporate entities. You said then that you didn't realize that was a violation of our terms. Up to the point prior to the mailing in which you violated the terms, things had been going well, so we decided to give you a second chance. You then proceeded to violate the terms in precisely the same way.

What can I say? We gave you a second chance, and you decided not to follow the terms again. This time you don't get paid. End of story.

WiredGuy · 06-23-2003, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
Did you really expect me to know that "e-card" was a trademark?

If you were warned once and still used it the second time then I would have to agree with Q on that.

WG

Quentin · 06-23-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man

Did you really expect me to know that "e-card" was a trademark?

Not necessarily - but I would expect you to realize that sending someone a message that says it's an "e-card" but that is actually an ad for a porn site would count as a misleading subject line.

From the terms:
"No misleading subject lines or false claims concerning the content of the message."

That seems pretty clear to me....

Dveron · 06-23-2003, 05:27 PM

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at least now the part of this industry that finds this thread of interest know what kind of guys you are.

I think most of the industry now realises you're a dumbass who can't follow simple instructions.

Allison · 06-23-2003, 05:38 PM

Although I feel this subject is a closed case and there is no need for it to be discussed further, I will bring my side of the story.

MysteryMan- Regarding your account, I must admit that I at first was more open then I currently am, because I was not completely informed of all the circumstances regarding your account.

I at first, believed your excuse of ignorance regarding our clear cut terms on mailers, but once I was informed of the numerous times you were warned and the spam complaints coming in regarding your mailings, I realized that ignorance was no longer a valid excuse.

Bringing this to the boards is not going to get you your money, although if you had abided by our terms (not spammed) and mailed responsibly the matter of your payment would not be an issue.

~Alli

Shoplifter · 06-23-2003, 06:04 PM

Fuck, isn't it dinner time in Latvia yet?

NOTR · 06-24-2003, 01:16 PM

That's funny.

Topbuck rep has been all over me for a few months getting me to send out some mail for them.

Fine take a day and do a test run. Bam the account is closed.

Funny they ask me to mail, send me warning for some complaints then decide to close it that same day.

Topbucks if your reading this, send the 2g + you owe me to your local charity.

Like Mystery Man said, one day you will piss off the wrong guy.

Remember when candidclicks was getting hit, some pissed off mailer started mailing child porn and linking it to his corporate site. Just imagine he was one of the people who got ripped off by topbucks. The damage that would cause. All your sites would be down days at a time, no other host would take you on with that much heat comming down on you. Candid even had the feds at his house.

Personally im glad I just did a test run. It was to test your credibillity to pay for mail traffic.

xxweekxx · 06-27-2003, 04:22 AM

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Originally posted by NOTR
That's funny.

Topbuck rep has been all over me for a few months getting me to send out some mail for them.

Fine take a day and do a test run. Bam the account is closed.

Funny they ask me to mail, send me warning for some complaints then decide to close it that same day.

Topbucks if your reading this, send the 2g + you owe me to your local charity.

Like Mystery Man said, one day you will piss off the wrong guy.

Remember when candidclicks was getting hit, some pissed off mailer started mailing child porn and linking it to his corporate site. Just imagine he was one of the people who got ripped off by topbucks. The damage that would cause. All your sites would be down days at a time, no other host would take you on with that much heat comming down on you. Candid even had the feds at his house.

Personally im glad I just did a test run. It was to test your credibillity to pay for mail traffic.

thats fucked up

Reak · 06-27-2003, 04:32 AM

they dont accepting spam at all, maby report the one who does spam them ?

xxweekxx · 06-27-2003, 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by Reak
they dont accepting spam at all, maby report the one who does spam them ?

hmmm so maybe they tell people to spam for them then they report to micro$oft? ?

mail3939 · 06-27-2003, 04:55 AM

any sponsor that wants anything mailed.. you provide me the hosting.. the subjects.. FROM address's if you want.. remove link address and i will push out mails for you.. my list is filtered from spam cop / isp reporters about 80% removed from it so far.. icq me @ 220741482 if you need soemthing mailed.. keep in mind.. i will be paid with cash.. you dick me over and you will not like it

xxweekxx · 06-27-2003, 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by mail3939
any sponsor that wants anything mailed.. you provide me the hosting.. the subjects.. FROM address's if you want.. remove link address and i will push out mails for you.. my list is filtered from spam cop / isp reporters about 80% removed from it so far.. icq me @ 220741482 if you need soemthing mailed.. keep in mind.. i will be paid with cash.. you dick me over and you will not like it

hahahaah.. paid with cash?? I SALE SHORT ICQ BY THE WAY

mail3939 · 06-27-2003, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by xxweekxx

hahahaah.. paid with cash?? I SALE SHORT ICQ BY THE WAY

laugh all you want.. i will put them in rotation with the other sponsors i mail weekly.. about 200 - 400 joins per mailing.. takes about 5 hours per mailing

darksoft · 06-27-2003, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Quentin
To clarify, we do not allow spam, period. We do allow valid email promotions via opt-in lists, provided that the webmaster/company sending the mail adheres to our terms - see
http://www.topbucks.com/remove_list/README.txt - and filters against our global remove list.

If you receive unsolicited email promoting our sites, simply forward it to [email protected] and we will see to it that the spammer's account is terminated, and their sales revenue forfeited.

- Q.

That's a joke. I sent you guys numerous spam complaints and the fucker kept on spamming, so I quit your sorry spam-friendly program. I still get a few spams here and there.

As long as the spammers send you signups you turn a blind eye. Like I said, a fucking joke.

psyko514 · 06-27-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by darksoft

As long as the spammers send you signups you turn a blind eye. Like I said, a fucking joke.

that's the standard with most sponsor programs

darksoft · 06-27-2003, 09:03 AM

Here's a free tip: If the email address has the word webmaster in it you should probably filter the fucking thing out. In fact, put the word webmaster in the filter.

web4x · 06-27-2003, 09:32 AM

I get at least 20 spam emails from topbucks webmasters each day.

Seems like very spammer friendly. Great company.

pornjudge · 06-27-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by machineg
Does topbucks allow spam ?
I just got a spam from an affiliate . and there is no way in hell , I opted in for it .

Yepp they allow spam... shame shame... I contacted them in the past about a spammer & they told me they deleted is account and it wont happen again, the spammer was spamming me again with the same code a few days later...

gregtx · 06-27-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by pornjudge

Yepp they allow spam... shame shame... I contacted them in the past about a spammer & they told me they deleted is account and it wont happen again, the spammer was spamming me again with the same code a few days later...

that proves nothing... Topbucks could have shut down the account and the bulker still had mails in queue to go out.. and did not bother to stop them... does not mean he was or would get paid on them...

darksoft · 06-27-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by gregtx

that proves nothing... Topbucks could have shut down the account and the bulker still had mails in queue to go out.. and did not bother to stop them... does not mean he was or would get paid on them...

And monkeys might have flown out my ass, too.

xxweekxx · 06-27-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by web4x
I get at least 20 spam emails from topbucks webmasters each day.

Seems like very spammer friendly. Great company.

06-23-2003, 01:47 PM	#1
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06-23-2003, 02:07 PM	#7
Allison Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: http://www.topbucks.com Posts: 2,068	machineg and Mystery Man- please forward me the spam email you received from one of our affiliates so we can look into it further. As you can see by the reply regarding our remove list, we also have specific terms that all email advertising accounts are required to abide by and any accounts that violate these terms are supsended. ~Alli __________________ Allison President TopBucks.com\| PinkVisual.com\| [email protected] Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/PV_Alli ICQ: 120353154 Check out PVLocker.com

06-23-2003, 03:30 PM	#14
Quentin Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,280	To clarify, we do not allow spam, period. We do allow valid email promotions via opt-in lists, provided that the webmaster/company sending the mail adheres to our terms - see http://www.topbucks.com/remove_list/README.txt - and filters against our global remove list. If you receive unsolicited email promoting our sites, simply forward it to [email protected] and we will see to it that the spammer's account is terminated, and their sales revenue forfeited. - Q. __________________ Q. Boyer

06-23-2003, 04:20 PM	#18
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06-23-2003, 03:06 PM	#13
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,801	If Topbucks and other sponsors took the cash out of spam it would be gone. Debating whether or not a broken remove link is important is ridiculous. Each surfer is faced with hundreds of different remove links to different stolen lists. It is impossible to be removed from all mailings. If a program like Topbucks allows mailings they should only use verified opt in addresses (the client opts in at the Topbucks web site), and then provide that list only to affiliates. Allowing these guys to police their own lists of stolen addresses is asking for trouble.

06-23-2003, 04:02 PM	#15
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	this is really a tough issue. they do allow bulk emailing, but at least they are forcing people to go by certain rules, which at least adds some sort of structure to it all. however, it is hard for them to catch all the cheaters. so instead of bitching, why dont you help them catch those that are forging headers, and stealin gbandwidth? instead of attacking them? and as far as bitching at her to cancel accounts. maybe you pissed in her cheerios and thats why she canned your ass? try being a little nicer when you get pissed and dont piss people off in the heat of the moment. only time i been cancelled i called the fuckers up, asked why, and then told them they can tell me in vegas to my face why they broke a deal saying i could mail for them. consequentially they paid me. i didnt threaten just told them that was fucked to walk out on a previous business deal because some fuck tard bitched. a lot of you are NOT mailers, so you dont know WTF is going on in this particular part of the game. mail headers are sooo fucking easy to forge and then report to sponsors just to get certain accounts cancelled. its not even funny. partially because very few can read a header and know if its real or not, and then verify that it is. send me 50 accounts at random from any programs, i can forge you a header, and email, and everything else you need to go bitch at them. other fuckers seed lists that they sell with email addresses' for the sole purpose of hurting the other persons partnerships with sponsors. the possibilties are endless. so dont bitch about shit you fuckers dont know about. Furthermore who gives a fuck who is spamming who isnt, and who is making the money off it. For all the people that hate spam, there are just as many that hate tgps and giving away of free porn. If you spent more time making your own damned bag of loot, and less worrying about others youd all be a lot better off. no wait dont do that, leave more of the pie open for the rest of us to pick up and walk away with while you dorks have your backs turned. The fact will always remain the same, if im sending a sponsor 100 joins a day, not a fucking chance on your life they will cancelled me without pay. because 100 joins a day or more is a BIG fucking hit to take revenue wise. Let alone pissing on someone that has sent you probably tens of thousands of $$$ in revenue. That you have probably discussed thier mailings with, and have openly accepted. Instead youll just add the person to the remove file and make sure the mailer doesnt hit them again. Because thats a business relationship FEW would walk away from. Open up your eyes. this shit was built on spam, and still grows daily because of it. embrace it. if you cant handle spam get the fuck off the internet.

06-23-2003, 05:38 PM	#24
Allison Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: http://www.topbucks.com Posts: 2,068	Although I feel this subject is a closed case and there is no need for it to be discussed further, I will bring my side of the story. MysteryMan- Regarding your account, I must admit that I at first was more open then I currently am, because I was not completely informed of all the circumstances regarding your account. I at first, believed your excuse of ignorance regarding our clear cut terms on mailers, but once I was informed of the numerous times you were warned and the spam complaints coming in regarding your mailings, I realized that ignorance was no longer a valid excuse. Bringing this to the boards is not going to get you your money, although if you had abided by our terms (not spammed) and mailed responsibly the matter of your payment would not be an issue. ~Alli __________________ Allison President TopBucks.com\| PinkVisual.com\| [email protected] Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/PV_Alli ICQ: 120353154 Check out PVLocker.com Last edited by Allison; 06-23-2003 at 06:00 PM..

06-23-2003, 06:04 PM	#25
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,801	Fuck, isn't it dinner time in Latvia yet?

06-24-2003, 01:16 PM	#26
NOTR Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: MTL Posts: 380	That's funny. Topbuck rep has been all over me for a few months getting me to send out some mail for them. Fine take a day and do a test run. Bam the account is closed. Funny they ask me to mail, send me warning for some complaints then decide to close it that same day. Topbucks if your reading this, send the 2g + you owe me to your local charity. Like Mystery Man said, one day you will piss off the wrong guy. Remember when candidclicks was getting hit, some pissed off mailer started mailing child porn and linking it to his corporate site. Just imagine he was one of the people who got ripped off by topbucks. The damage that would cause. All your sites would be down days at a time, no other host would take you on with that much heat comming down on you. Candid even had the feds at his house. Personally im glad I just did a test run. It was to test your credibillity to pay for mail traffic.

06-27-2003, 04:32 AM	#28
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	they dont accepting spam at all, maby report the one who does spam them ?

06-27-2003, 04:55 AM	#30
mail3939 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2	any sponsor that wants anything mailed.. you provide me the hosting.. the subjects.. FROM address's if you want.. remove link address and i will push out mails for you.. my list is filtered from spam cop / isp reporters about 80% removed from it so far.. icq me @ 220741482 if you need soemthing mailed.. keep in mind.. i will be paid with cash.. you dick me over and you will not like it

06-27-2003, 09:03 AM	#35
darksoft Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BumFuck Ohio Posts: 768	Here's a free tip: If the email address has the word webmaster in it you should probably filter the fucking thing out. In fact, put the word webmaster in the filter.

06-27-2003, 09:32 AM	#36
web4x Will everyone please review my newest site? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 841	I get at least 20 spam emails from topbucks webmasters each day. Seems like very spammer friendly. Great company. __________________