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Choker · 06-25-2003, 09:02 PM

This guy like to buy traffic and charge it back after it is delivered

http://www.micheleraven.com/

pantymaniac · 06-25-2003, 09:04 PM

Never contacted me yet hehe

Spunky · 06-25-2003, 09:08 PM

Cheaters & Thieves

Turboface · 06-25-2003, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
This guy like to buy traffic and charge it back after it is delivered

http://www.micheleraven.com/

I've got a few names for ya too. I'll put them up here in a little bit.

Juicy D. Links · 06-25-2003, 09:22 PM

I am sexy

lil2rich4u2 · 06-25-2003, 09:23 PM

lil2rich4u2 · 06-25-2003, 09:23 PM

Choker, Turboface, KimmyKim, and others should all make a cheater exposure site.

Choker · 06-25-2003, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface

I've got a few names for ya too. I'll put them up here in a little bit.

Please do. I will make a database like findtrades for brokers so we can list these sites

CDSmith · 06-25-2003, 09:40 PM

I would be interested in such a list as well. I've taken note of a few names just today that will have to talk to the hand should they ever try contacting me for anything.

Some threads really draw out the mouthy pricks more than others.

Kimmykim · 06-25-2003, 09:42 PM

Oh please, no one would ever try to cheat a traffic broker, or a pay per signup, or a recurring, or the milkman, or a kid selling Girl Scout cookies.

At least not on this board.

Turboface · 06-25-2003, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Please do. I will make a database like findtrades for brokers so we can list these sites

I don't have too many people that want their money back, but if they do, I refund them for the amount of traffic they haven't received yet.

The last person that pulled a fast one (chargeback) on me was Ryan Sanford. Damn him - Damn him to hell! hehehe.

Some people think that there is magical traffic that will make them rich automatically. They don't comprehend that traffic is a tool and needs to be treated as so. Some of my customers that order from me regularly, are sending my traffic to places other than directly to a sponsor, they have been sending it to FPAs, AVS sites, and link pages that they make themselves.

Buying traffic, from anyone, is not a guaranteed short cut to riches, but after experimenting with it and trying different things, you can find out what works best for you.

Adult Site Traffic · 06-25-2003, 10:11 PM

Name: James Bell
Email: [email protected]
Hits Purchased: 5000
Traffic Send URL: http://<br /> <a href="http://www.p...ks/way.htm</a>
and
Traffic Send URL: http://www.pornpiczon.net/banks/banks.htm
Buyer's Email: [email protected]
Item Title: 5000 Hits Traffic Sale
Item Number: 885664720
Buyer: James Bell
James Bell
8740 *********** #20
*******, CA
92***
USA

Name: Tina Bucko
Email: [email protected]
Hits Purchased: 25000
Traffic Send URL: http://www.crazy-profit.com/link/bang.htm
Payor's Email: [email protected]
Item Title: 25000 Hits Traffic Sale
Item Number: 450300283
Buyer: Joe Tillerson
Joe Tillerson
4534 ******* Street
****, CA
94***
USA

This first person ordered twice, 1 day apart, and charged back both orders.

I think we should start a board for this purpose.

AST 121760557

*Edited because my wife was going to kick my ass for putting the street addresses of these cheaters.*

Adult Site Traffic · 06-25-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Please do. I will make a database like findtrades for brokers so we can list these sites

I would like my script to tap that DB and post-back to me

) I think I can arrange something like that...

Choker · 06-25-2003, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

I would like my script to tap that DB and post-back to me ) I think I can arrange something like that...

Yep this will be easy, give me a couple days

Adult Site Traffic · 06-25-2003, 10:36 PM

This email confirms that you sent $320.00 to [email protected].
------------------------------
Payment Details
------------------------------
Amount: $320.00
Transaction ID: 87M04144R55830944
Subject: 100/k - 4 days

______________________________

Dear Wacked Media, LLC,

Perl Mountain Enterprises ([email protected]) would like to be paid through PayPal.

______________________________

Dear Perl Mountain Enterprises,

Wacked Media, LLC ([email protected]) cancelled the following
Money Request:
-----------------------------
Money Request Details
------------------------------
Amount: $320.00

LO fucking L, I just happened to find another one

adultvisitors · 06-26-2003, 12:53 AM

I have a bunch of names...
Damn cheaters!

Krome · 06-26-2003, 01:33 AM

Adult Site Traffic - Are you saying Ucumseeme are charge back cheaters?

Krome · 06-26-2003, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
This guy like to buy traffic and charge it back after it is delivered

http://www.micheleraven.com/

http://www.micheleraven.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm
Check her message board....

Choker · 06-26-2003, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

I would like my script to tap that DB and post-back to me ) I think I can arrange something like that...

http://www.findtrades.com/search/ind...= id&o=1&br=7

There you go, just ICQ PPK and he will tell you how to set your script up to tap into mine. If you report a site for this, make sure you list the reason as "Fraud" and send a link with the screen shots of where the site charged back on you, show me as much proof as you can, thanks

Michele Raven · 06-26-2003, 01:19 PM

No, I do NOT buy traffic and then do a charge back after it is delivered. Once I got "approved" by you. I could no longer log into my account to see anything. I received no hits from any of the sites you listed as being the ones that would produce the traffic. After no replies to 3 emails sent to you, then I disputed the payment.

Michele Raven
http://www.MicheleRaven.com

lil2rich4u2 · 06-26-2003, 01:20 PM

fucker

adultvisitors · 06-26-2003, 01:52 PM

Im waiting for a list where i can post the
frauds....since Im not too creative myself for that right now.

detoxed · 06-26-2003, 01:54 PM

damn cheaters

adultvisitors · 06-26-2003, 01:59 PM

Yes, damn cheaters.!
again...
Damn cheaters!

Choker · 06-26-2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michele Raven
No, I do NOT buy traffic and then do a charge back after it is delivered. Once I got "approved" by you. I could no longer log into my account to see anything. I received no hits from any of the sites you listed as being the ones that would produce the traffic. After no replies to 3 emails sent to you, then I disputed the payment.

Michele Raven
http://www.MicheleRaven.com

Excuse me? You got all your traffic plus much more (My guy credited you extra by accident). Click on your show all links. You are a thief sir and will be dealt with accordingly.

Choker · 06-26-2003, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adultvisitors
Im waiting for a list where i can post the
frauds....since Im not too creative myself for that right now.

go to http://www.findtrades.com create a account, then submit the sites as a cheater report, make sure you select "Fraud" when reporting them. Please include urls to any screenshots you have for confirmation, thanks man

adultvisitors · 06-26-2003, 02:22 PM

Ok.

Filed two of them as a test.
non adult + adult

Choker · 06-26-2003, 02:24 PM

http://chokinchicken.com/cheaters/michaelraven/1.htm

http://chokinchicken.com/cheaters/michaelraven/2.htm

Yeah you never got any traffic, whatever dude. What comes around goes around. May be a week, may be a year.

Choker · 06-26-2003, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adultvisitors
Ok.

Filed two of them as a test.
non adult + adult

it works http://www.findtrades.com/search/ind...= id&o=1&br=7

But please include urls to screenshots of the chargebacks and stats of you sending traffic. I can't blacklist guys without proof, remember I am the one they bitch at when they see they are blacklisted, LOL

xxxdesign-net · 06-26-2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

You are a thief sir and will be dealt with accordingly.

Looks like a woman to me!

Michele Raven · 06-26-2003, 08:19 PM

I have three tracking sysytems working on my sites. I received NOTHING from you. How could I, as soon as I was approved -- you denied me access to your admin program. I thought it was just a glich in the system, so I wrote you and email, again and again. If I had gotten my hits (and more as you say) why didn't you reply to me? I wrote my first email to you within 4 hours of getting approved. HHmmm ??????

http://www.MicheleRaven.com

Why · 06-26-2003, 09:04 PM

DRAMA LEVEL = RED!

GorillaX · 06-26-2003, 09:20 PM

crack smoking whores...

WendyB · 06-26-2003, 09:46 PM

God Damn Cry Babies

Choker · 06-26-2003, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michele Raven
No, I do NOT buy traffic and then do a charge back after it is delivered. Once I got "approved" by you. I could no longer log into my account to see anything. I received no hits from any of the sites you listed as being the ones that would produce the traffic. After no replies to 3 emails sent to you, then I disputed the payment.

Michele Raven
http://www.MicheleRaven.com

WTF are you talking about dude? You paid for the traffic, sent a message in ctts, but did not send the correct info, after you finally sent the right info the order was added.
http://chokinchicken.com/cheaters/michaelraven/2.htm

If you emailed me exactly where do you see my email address at on my site? What email address did you use?? And I never denied you access into the script , shit you are still not locked out of it. So try this again Mr Thief.

You were sent more than what you ordered, I fucked up in communicating this to my guy, so he sent you more than we should have. But that is my fault, I just want my $70. And you also added a console to the site after it was approved. I will get my $70 one way or another dude. I am very patient when I want to be. You got your traffic here is the proof. http://chokinchicken.com/cheaters/michaelraven/1.htm
You want me to post the login url, your account name and password here so others can see this?? I would not change your account to show false numbers if I could, hell everyone knows I do not even have a coder to fix the bugs in this script now, let alone modify anything like this. The traffic was sent, now do the honerable thing and pay me. I do not steal from others and I'll be damned if I will let others steal from me.

Choker · 06-26-2003, 10:00 PM

You know what really urks me? I do not even sell to sites like yours. A small paysite with a few sample galleries, with no affiliate program, hell I figured new guy, site looks not so great, I actually felt sorry for you. I give him a break, bend my rules and sell him traffic, then this is the shit I get for it. Fuck this. Everytime I bend the rules to help someone out I get fucked for it.

noshit · 06-26-2003, 10:01 PM

overzealous traffic choker....
About all your threads to the tune of BEWARE, WATCH THIS GUY, I'VE BEEN RIPPED, THIEF! .... OR whatever.
I'm glad i don't deal with your watered down traffic shit.
You give me a fucking HEADACHE.

Choker · 06-26-2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by noshit
overzealous traffic choker....
About all your threads to the tune of BEWARE, WATCH THIS GUY, I'VE BEEN RIPPED, THIEF! .... OR whatever.
I'm glad i don't deal with your watered down traffic shit.
You give me a fucking HEADACHE.

Yeah you must not have any traffic or you would care about who is stealing and who is not. Get to bed I want my Bacon Egg and cheese biscuit at 5:00 AM.

noshit · 06-26-2003, 10:18 PM

still eating Mcdonalds with all that traffic?
You deserve a break today.

Choker · 06-26-2003, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by noshit
still eating Mcdonalds with all that traffic?
You deserve a break today.

Two kids man, that is all they freaking ever want. But yeah you are right I do need to chill out. I am over zealous when dealing with thieves. I just can't understand why people do this. Guess I take it too personal.

Michele Raven · 06-27-2003, 10:27 AM

Bottom line is ... if you would have provided me with the service you advertise, you wouldn't have given me a refund. That alone shows that you know you did me wrong.

http://www.MicheleRaven.com

Choker · 06-27-2003, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michele Raven
Bottom line is ... if you would have provided me with the service you advertise, you wouldn't have given me a refund. That alone shows that you know you did me wrong.

http://www.MicheleRaven.com

God you are thick, you got the service I advertised. You got the traffic, I posted the proof, what the fuck else do you expect from me?? And lets see these emails you claim you sent me. Show them to me. I am going to go out of my way to make sure every traffic broker sees this thread.

Choker · 06-27-2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michele Raven
Bottom line is ... if you would have provided me with the service you advertise, you wouldn't have given me a refund. That alone shows that you know you did me wrong.

http://www.MicheleRaven.com

And I approved the refund so I don't have to deal with those idiots at paypal. You having a paysite you should know this. There is no fighting a dispute with them, it's a lost cause. Now pay me the money you owe me.

berg.the.red · 06-27-2003, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michele Raven
Bottom line is ... if you would have provided me with the service you advertise, you wouldn't have given me a refund. That alone shows that you know you did me wrong.

http://www.MicheleRaven.com

no. that shows how Choker runs his business ... from the looks of things you got the hits you paid for AND a refund. seems like Chokers' the one who's out some traffic and now he's the bad guy ?!

psyko514 · 06-27-2003, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michele Raven
Bottom line is ... if you would have provided me with the service you advertise, you wouldn't have given me a refund. That alone shows that you know you did me wrong.

http://www.MicheleRaven.com

what a loser.

Turboface · 06-27-2003, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by berg.the.red
... from the looks of things you got the hits you paid for AND a refund.

That's not a nice thing to do. She should just pay up and shut up.

Adult Site Traffic · 06-27-2003, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
Adult Site Traffic - Are you saying Ucumseeme are charge back cheaters?

No, I am not saying he charged back.

The reciepts that I posted show that I'm the one who paid him. There's more to it than I care to discuss in this thread, but most of those posting in here know exactly what I'm talking about.

You can do a search for it on this board if you're interested.

AST 121760557

06-25-2003, 09:02 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Traffic brokers BEWARE This guy like to buy traffic and charge it back after it is delivered http://www.micheleraven.com/ __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

06-25-2003, 09:08 PM	#3
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06-25-2003, 09:23 PM	#6
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06-25-2003, 09:23 PM	#7
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Choker, Turboface, KimmyKim, and others should all make a cheater exposure site. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

06-25-2003, 09:40 PM	#9
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06-25-2003, 09:04 PM	#2
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06-25-2003, 09:22 PM	#5
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I am sexy

06-25-2003, 09:42 PM	#10
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Oh please, no one would ever try to cheat a traffic broker, or a pay per signup, or a recurring, or the milkman, or a kid selling Girl Scout cookies. At least not on this board.

06-25-2003, 10:11 PM	#12
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Name: James Bell Email: [email protected] Hits Purchased: 5000 Traffic Send URL: http://<br /> <a href="http://www.p...ks/way.htm</a> and Traffic Send URL: http://www.pornpiczon.net/banks/banks.htm Buyer's Email: [email protected] Item Title: 5000 Hits Traffic Sale Item Number: 885664720 Buyer: James Bell James Bell 8740 ********* #20 ***, CA 92* USA Name: Tina Bucko Email: [email protected] Hits Purchased: 25000 Traffic Send URL: http://www.crazy-profit.com/link/bang.htm Payor's Email: [email protected] Item Title: 25000 Hits Traffic Sale Item Number: 450300283 Buyer: Joe Tillerson Joe Tillerson 4534 ***** Street , CA 94* USA This first person ordered twice, 1 day apart, and charged back both orders. I think we should start a board for this purpose. AST 121760557 Edited because my wife was going to kick my ass for putting the street addresses of these cheaters. __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::. Last edited by Adult Site Traffic; 06-25-2003 at 10:29 PM..

06-25-2003, 10:36 PM	#15
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	This email confirms that you sent $320.00 to [email protected]. ------------------------------ Payment Details ------------------------------ Amount: $320.00 Transaction ID: 87M04144R55830944 Subject: 100/k - 4 days ______________________________ Dear Wacked Media, LLC, Perl Mountain Enterprises ([email protected]) would like to be paid through PayPal. ______________________________ Dear Perl Mountain Enterprises, Wacked Media, LLC ([email protected]) cancelled the following Money Request: ----------------------------- Money Request Details ------------------------------ Amount: $320.00 LO fucking L, I just happened to find another one

06-26-2003, 12:53 AM	#16
adultvisitors Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,417	I have a bunch of names... Damn cheaters! __________________ Buy traffic! Best Secure Online Casino Bonus Guide! Click Here!

06-26-2003, 01:33 AM	#17
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Adult Site Traffic - Are you saying Ucumseeme are charge back cheaters?

06-26-2003, 01:19 PM	#20
Michele Raven Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3	No, I do NOT buy traffic and then do a charge back after it is delivered. Once I got "approved" by you. I could no longer log into my account to see anything. I received no hits from any of the sites you listed as being the ones that would produce the traffic. After no replies to 3 emails sent to you, then I disputed the payment. Michele Raven http://www.MicheleRaven.com

06-26-2003, 01:20 PM	#21
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06-26-2003, 01:52 PM	#22
adultvisitors Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,417	Im waiting for a list where i can post the frauds....since Im not too creative myself for that right now. __________________ Buy traffic! Best Secure Online Casino Bonus Guide! Click Here!

06-26-2003, 01:54 PM	#23
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	damn cheaters

06-26-2003, 01:59 PM	#24
adultvisitors Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,417	Yes, damn cheaters.! again... Damn cheaters! __________________ Buy traffic! Best Secure Online Casino Bonus Guide! Click Here!

06-26-2003, 02:22 PM	#27
adultvisitors Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,417	Ok. Filed two of them as a test. non adult + adult __________________ Buy traffic! Best Secure Online Casino Bonus Guide! Click Here!

06-26-2003, 02:24 PM	#28
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	http://chokinchicken.com/cheaters/michaelraven/1.htm http://chokinchicken.com/cheaters/michaelraven/2.htm Yeah you never got any traffic, whatever dude. What comes around goes around. May be a week, may be a year. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

06-26-2003, 08:19 PM	#31
Michele Raven Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3	I have three tracking sysytems working on my sites. I received NOTHING from you. How could I, as soon as I was approved -- you denied me access to your admin program. I thought it was just a glich in the system, so I wrote you and email, again and again. If I had gotten my hits (and more as you say) why didn't you reply to me? I wrote my first email to you within 4 hours of getting approved. HHmmm ?????? http://www.MicheleRaven.com

06-26-2003, 09:04 PM	#32
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	DRAMA LEVEL = RED!

06-26-2003, 09:20 PM	#33
GorillaX Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: ZOO Posts: 143	crack smoking whores...

06-26-2003, 09:46 PM	#34
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06-26-2003, 10:00 PM	#36
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	You know what really urks me? I do not even sell to sites like yours. A small paysite with a few sample galleries, with no affiliate program, hell I figured new guy, site looks not so great, I actually felt sorry for you. I give him a break, bend my rules and sell him traffic, then this is the shit I get for it. Fuck this. Everytime I bend the rules to help someone out I get fucked for it. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

06-26-2003, 10:01 PM	#37
noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	overzealous traffic choker.... About all your threads to the tune of BEWARE, WATCH THIS GUY, I'VE BEEN RIPPED, THIEF! .... OR whatever. I'm glad i don't deal with your watered down traffic shit. You give me a fucking HEADACHE.

06-26-2003, 10:18 PM	#39
noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	still eating Mcdonalds with all that traffic? You deserve a break today.

06-27-2003, 10:27 AM	#41
Michele Raven Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3	Bottom line is ... if you would have provided me with the service you advertise, you wouldn't have given me a refund. That alone shows that you know you did me wrong. http://www.MicheleRaven.com