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06-20-2003, 03:59 PM

hey guys,
as Ive mentionned in many previous posts, I am very interested in stating my first paysite within the next 6 months

but I've still alot to learn!

would anybody here be kind enough to guide me through how a paysite works, what ppl want on paysites, and all the rest?

I will find some way of repaying you once Im in business

thanx for everybody who is willing to teach a bit!

lil2rich4u2 · 06-20-2003, 04:01 PM

dont waste your time or your money ...

contact Mark Tiarra

He will design you a paysite that WILL convert, and he will do it at YOUR budget.

BTW think about it ... these people all cringe at the thought of competition, you really think they are going to give you good advice?

06-20-2003, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
dont waste your time or your money ...

contact Mark Tiarra

He will design you a paysite that WILL convert, and he will do it at YOUR budget.

BTW think about it ... these people all cringe at the thought of competition, you really think they are going to give you good advice?

some people are nicer and more generous than others

also, does mark tiarra have a portfolio? I would like to see if hes as good as you say he is

Jakke PNG · 06-20-2003, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
dont waste your time or your money ...

contact Mark Tiarra

He will design you a paysite that WILL convert, and he will do it at YOUR budget.

BTW think about it ... these people all cringe at the thought of competition, you really think they are going to give you good advice?

Great.
All you need a kick-ass design to make a successfull paysite. I hope you're gonna write some guide to make paysites too, I can hardly wait.

06-20-2003, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Great.
All you need a kick-ass design to make a successfull paysite. I hope you're gonna write some guide to make paysites too, I can hardly wait.

This guy always cracks me up

siccmade · 06-20-2003, 04:06 PM

Cozy Academy - Paysite Success

There's a very good place for you to start.

#21 lessons on paysites. Start from one and don't stop until you're finished.

06-20-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by siccmade
Cozy Academy - Paysite Success

There's a very good place for you to start.

#21 lessons on paysites. Start from one and don't stop until you're finished.

awesome! checking it out right away!

TheFLY · 06-20-2003, 04:08 PM

Ironhorse · 06-20-2003, 04:08 PM

This thread really illustrates how it's all about perspective.

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 04:15 PM

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2. Exclusive Content

3. Not something that everyone else is doing

4. No Popups

5. Weekly Updates w/calendar in member area

6. A Real simple easy to load plain text tour, surfers dont care how fancy your site is they care about the content

7. Dont under-estimate surfers many can jerk off to your 30 second trailer, make sure you really really are careful while building trailers

8. Dont judge conversion based on Exit Traffic or all those so called Traffic Brokers

9. Don't shoot your content out of the country when you start out regardless of how good the deals are.

10. Use as many models as possible, and show them all in the tour. Not everyone likes blondes etc.

11. A Real Host

12. A real billing company

13. If you plan on pinching pennies on stuff like Billing and hosting and shooting quality content you are better off not getting into this.

14. Do not spam

15. Do not Kill

16. One shall not....

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by siccmade
Cozy Academy - Paysite Success

There's a very good place for you to start.

#21 lessons on paysites. Start from one and don't stop until you're finished.

lol 1000 bucks they say you can have a good website, come on

Honeyslut · 06-20-2003, 04:20 PM

You should try to do a niche that you are interested in. If not, do make sure that you research it and find surfer board pertaining to it that you can watch for six months .

Aza · 06-20-2003, 04:22 PM

make a paysite that YOU would join and remain a member of

06-20-2003, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Aza
make a paysite that YOU would join and remain a member of

that would be a lesbian paysite
but I dont have any lesbian domains, nor did I find any I liked after countless hours of dotster search

Andy P · 06-20-2003, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
9. Don't shoot your content out of the country when you start out regardless of how good the deals are.

Why ?

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf

that would be a lesbian paysite
but I dont have any lesbian domains, nor did I find any I liked after countless hours of dotster search

if you still think that domains matter you need to rethink everything

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Andy P

Why ?

this is from my own experience as well as other webmasters and pretty much the advice of attorney richard chapo (adultinternetlaw.com)

tons of legal issues to deal with especially at a time when the feds are lose and trying to lock people up on 2257 related issues.

06-20-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

if you still think that domains matter you need to rethink everything

well Im not gonna put a lesbian paysite on a domain like www.wantsmut.com. that sounds stupid to me, maybe it isint

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf

well Im not gonna put a lesbian paysite on a domain like www.wantsmut.com. that sounds stupid to me, maybe it isint

some of the most successful paysites are on BS domains, like I said the surfer does not care about design and domains

J-Reel · 06-20-2003, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf

that would be a lesbian paysite
but I dont have any lesbian domains, nor did I find any I liked after countless hours of dotster search

Think

06-20-2003, 04:39 PM

then again, only because I like lesbians more than other categories doesnt mean I dont like the others as well and that I cant make a nice paysite for that category

I still have alot of thinking to do about my project, I need to learn about every detail first =)

Honeyslut · 06-20-2003, 04:42 PM

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You can see if they would sell it to you.. It's not being used for porn...

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06-20-2003, 04:50 PM

escortbiz, I was just wondeirng
do you have customer support on your paysite? (thought just passed in my head)

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
escortbiz, I was just wondeirng
do you have customer support on your paysite? (thought just passed in my head)

try to email anytime day or night see how fast you get an answer, this is not the only paysite I run

06-20-2003, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

try to email anytime day or night see how fast you get an answer, this is not the only paysite I run

real cool

what about phone number? you provide live support?

Rictor · 06-20-2003, 04:54 PM

"Lesson #2 - Understanding the Needs of a Paysite
A paysite is an investment. There is no way to open a competitive paysite without spending a minimum of $1000.00. The days where one could have 250 good pictures and make decent money off memberships is gone. Today's paysite has thousands of updated images, full-length video streams, live chat with models and many..."

I'd say that site could use an update. That number should be at least $10,000 in today's market.

Snake Doctor · 06-20-2003, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf

some people are nicer and more generous than others

also, does mark tiarra have a portfolio? I would like to see if hes as good as you say he is

They did the design for Kara's, arguably the most successful paysite in the history of paysites, that alone should tell you how good they are

Bottom line is unless you know enough that you don't have to ask anyone questions, or unless you have the cash to hire a consultant like Tiarra or KimmyKim to walk you through things, you're not ready to start a paysite.

06-20-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2

They did the design for Kara's, arguably the most successful paysite in the history of paysites, that alone should tell you how good they are

Bottom line is unless you know enough that you don't have to ask anyone questions, or unless you have the cash to hire a consultant like Tiarra or KimmyKim to walk you through things, you're not ready to start a paysite.

impressive

06-20-2003, 05:54 PM

whats mark tiarras website please?

Marcus · 06-20-2003, 06:21 PM

Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great.

06-20-2003, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great.

thanx alot buddy

martzy · 06-20-2003, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great.

That girl doing the pose is hot on marks site.... damn

Xenophage · 06-20-2003, 11:19 PM

I would Highly reccomend Mark Tiarra for any of your design needs ! TOP Notch professional ! And has been around since the beginning.

D-man · 06-21-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
I would Highly reccomend Mark Tiarra for any of your design needs ! TOP Notch professional ! And has been around since the beginning.

Mark just came out with an ebook on paysites -

I got mine

D-man · 06-21-2003, 01:32 AM

not sure if this links on his site but here is the book!
http://www.lumyr.com/ebook/

Que? · 06-21-2003, 06:34 AM

You can tweak your paysite to run so smooth that you can more or less avoid support issus. Having said that you can find your self kneehigh in capital letters emails from more or less enraged members at any time (usually AOL noobs).

So get ready for 24 hour a day support jour, or rent support but that as so much else will drive up your overheads.

Most third party billing companies have a 48 hour support clause. Ie your bound to give support response within 48 hours or risk loosing their service.

A paysite is like a greedy baby screaming for breastfeed around the clock. And still there might be little of value pooping out in the other end

I have found promotion to be the hardest and most time consuming part. Making a kick ass site is relatively easy.

Serge_Oprano · 06-21-2003, 06:35 AM

you should never start a paysite with the check Lens owes you!

Theo · 06-21-2003, 06:45 AM

the design should be THE LAST to worry about on a paysite

Reak · 06-21-2003, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
you should never start a paysite with the check Lens owes you!

06-20-2003, 03:59 PM	#1
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	does anybody have time to give me tips about starting a paysite? hey guys, as Ive mentionned in many previous posts, I am very interested in stating my first paysite within the next 6 months but I've still alot to learn! would anybody here be kind enough to guide me through how a paysite works, what ppl want on paysites, and all the rest? I will find some way of repaying you once Im in business thanx for everybody who is willing to teach a bit!

06-20-2003, 04:06 PM	#6
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06-20-2003, 04:08 PM	#9
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06-20-2003, 04:01 PM	#2
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06-20-2003, 04:22 PM	#13
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06-20-2003, 04:39 PM	#21
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	then again, only because I like lesbians more than other categories doesnt mean I dont like the others as well and that I cant make a nice paysite for that category I still have alot of thinking to do about my project, I need to learn about every detail first =)

06-20-2003, 04:42 PM	#22
Honeyslut Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ass Valley, Ca Posts: 6,436	I use to own lickalesbian.com but I let it expire since I decided not to do any lesbian sites. You can see if they would sell it to you.. It's not being used for porn... [email protected] __________________ http://nakedlunchnews.comWhat's up ? Naked Lunch News !

06-20-2003, 04:50 PM	#23
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	escortbiz, I was just wondeirng do you have customer support on your paysite? (thought just passed in my head)

06-20-2003, 04:54 PM	#26
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	"Lesson #2 - Understanding the Needs of a Paysite A paysite is an investment. There is no way to open a competitive paysite without spending a minimum of $1000.00. The days where one could have 250 good pictures and make decent money off memberships is gone. Today's paysite has thousands of updated images, full-length video streams, live chat with models and many..." I'd say that site could use an update. That number should be at least $10,000 in today's market.

06-20-2003, 05:54 PM	#29
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	whats mark tiarras website please?

06-20-2003, 06:21 PM	#30
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great.

06-20-2003, 11:19 PM	#33
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	I would Highly reccomend Mark Tiarra for any of your design needs ! TOP Notch professional ! And has been around since the beginning.

06-21-2003, 01:32 AM	#35
D-man Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Respect the join date noob! Posts: 1,291	not sure if this links on his site but here is the book! http://www.lumyr.com/ebook/

06-21-2003, 06:34 AM	#36
Que? Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 340	You can tweak your paysite to run so smooth that you can more or less avoid support issus. Having said that you can find your self kneehigh in capital letters emails from more or less enraged members at any time (usually AOL noobs). So get ready for 24 hour a day support jour, or rent support but that as so much else will drive up your overheads. Most third party billing companies have a 48 hour support clause. Ie your bound to give support response within 48 hours or risk loosing their service. A paysite is like a greedy baby screaming for breastfeed around the clock. And still there might be little of value pooping out in the other end I have found promotion to be the hardest and most time consuming part. Making a kick ass site is relatively easy. __________________ Send ccia out to deep space:<br> Donate to <a href="http://www.impai.org/">IMPA</a>

06-21-2003, 06:35 AM	#37
Serge_Oprano So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,820	you should never start a paysite with the check Lens owes you!

06-21-2003, 06:45 AM	#38
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	the design should be THE LAST to worry about on a paysite