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buddyjuf 06-20-2003 03:59 PM

does anybody have time to give me tips about starting a paysite?
 
hey guys,
as Ive mentionned in many previous posts, I am very interested in stating my first paysite within the next 6 months

but I've still alot to learn!

would anybody here be kind enough to guide me through how a paysite works, what ppl want on paysites, and all the rest?

I will find some way of repaying you once Im in business :thumbsup

thanx for everybody who is willing to teach a bit!

lil2rich4u2 06-20-2003 04:01 PM

dont waste your time or your money ...

contact Mark Tiarra

He will design you a paysite that WILL convert, and he will do it at YOUR budget.


BTW think about it ... these people all cringe at the thought of competition, you really think they are going to give you good advice?

:thumbsup

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
dont waste your time or your money ...

contact Mark Tiarra

He will design you a paysite that WILL convert, and he will do it at YOUR budget.


BTW think about it ... these people all cringe at the thought of competition, you really think they are going to give you good advice?

:thumbsup

some people are nicer and more generous than others

also, does mark tiarra have a portfolio? I would like to see if hes as good as you say he is :thumbsup

Jakke PNG 06-20-2003 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
dont waste your time or your money ...

contact Mark Tiarra

He will design you a paysite that WILL convert, and he will do it at YOUR budget.


BTW think about it ... these people all cringe at the thought of competition, you really think they are going to give you good advice?

:thumbsup

Great.
All you need a kick-ass design to make a successfull paysite. I hope you're gonna write some guide to make paysites too, I can hardly wait. :)

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Great.
All you need a kick-ass design to make a successfull paysite. I hope you're gonna write some guide to make paysites too, I can hardly wait. :)

:1orglaugh This guy always cracks me up

siccmade 06-20-2003 04:06 PM

Cozy Academy - Paysite Success

There's a very good place for you to start. :)

#21 lessons on paysites. Start from one and don't stop until you're finished.

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by siccmade
Cozy Academy - Paysite Success

There's a very good place for you to start. :)

#21 lessons on paysites. Start from one and don't stop until you're finished.

awesome! checking it out right away!

TheFLY 06-20-2003 04:08 PM

spam

Ironhorse 06-20-2003 04:08 PM

This thread really illustrates how it's all about perspective.

EscortBiz 06-20-2003 04:15 PM

1. No Partners Excluding Affiliates

2. Exclusive Content

3. Not something that everyone else is doing

4. No Popups

5. Weekly Updates w/calendar in member area

6. A Real simple easy to load plain text tour, surfers dont care how fancy your site is they care about the content

7. Dont under-estimate surfers many can jerk off to your 30 second trailer, make sure you really really are careful while building trailers

8. Dont judge conversion based on Exit Traffic or all those so called Traffic Brokers

9. Don't shoot your content out of the country when you start out regardless of how good the deals are.

10. Use as many models as possible, and show them all in the tour. Not everyone likes blondes etc.

11. A Real Host

12. A real billing company

13. If you plan on pinching pennies on stuff like Billing and hosting and shooting quality content you are better off not getting into this.

14. Do not spam

15. Do not Kill

16. One shall not....

EscortBiz 06-20-2003 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by siccmade
Cozy Academy - Paysite Success

There's a very good place for you to start. :)

#21 lessons on paysites. Start from one and don't stop until you're finished.

lol 1000 bucks they say you can have a good website, come on

Honeyslut 06-20-2003 04:20 PM

You should try to do a niche that you are interested in. If not, do make sure that you research it and find surfer board pertaining to it that you can watch for six months . :)

Aza 06-20-2003 04:22 PM

make a paysite that YOU would join and remain a member of

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aza
make a paysite that YOU would join and remain a member of
that would be a lesbian paysite
but I dont have any lesbian domains, nor did I find any I liked after countless hours of dotster search :(

Andy P 06-20-2003 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
9. Don't shoot your content out of the country when you start out regardless of how good the deals are.

Why ?

EscortBiz 06-20-2003 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf


that would be a lesbian paysite
but I dont have any lesbian domains, nor did I find any I liked after countless hours of dotster search :(

if you still think that domains matter you need to rethink everything

EscortBiz 06-20-2003 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy P


Why ?

this is from my own experience as well as other webmasters and pretty much the advice of attorney richard chapo (adultinternetlaw.com)

tons of legal issues to deal with especially at a time when the feds are lose and trying to lock people up on 2257 related issues.

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


if you still think that domains matter you need to rethink everything

well Im not gonna put a lesbian paysite on a domain like www.wantsmut.com. that sounds stupid to me, maybe it isint

EscortBiz 06-20-2003 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf


well Im not gonna put a lesbian paysite on a domain like www.wantsmut.com. that sounds stupid to me, maybe it isint

some of the most successful paysites are on BS domains, like I said the surfer does not care about design and domains

J-Reel 06-20-2003 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf


that would be a lesbian paysite
but I dont have any lesbian domains, nor did I find any I liked after countless hours of dotster search :(


Think

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:39 PM

then again, only because I like lesbians more than other categories doesnt mean I dont like the others as well and that I cant make a nice paysite for that category

I still have alot of thinking to do about my project, I need to learn about every detail first =)

Honeyslut 06-20-2003 04:42 PM

I use to own lickalesbian.com but I let it expire since I decided not to do any lesbian sites.


You can see if they would sell it to you.. It's not being used for porn...

[email protected]

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:50 PM

escortbiz, I was just wondeirng
do you have customer support on your paysite? (thought just passed in my head)

EscortBiz 06-20-2003 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
escortbiz, I was just wondeirng
do you have customer support on your paysite? (thought just passed in my head)


try to email anytime day or night see how fast you get an answer, this is not the only paysite I run

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz



try to email anytime day or night see how fast you get an answer, this is not the only paysite I run

real cool :thumbsup
what about phone number? you provide live support?

Rictor 06-20-2003 04:54 PM

"Lesson #2 - Understanding the Needs of a Paysite
A paysite is an investment. There is no way to open a competitive paysite without spending a minimum of $1000.00. The days where one could have 250 good pictures and make decent money off memberships is gone. Today's paysite has thousands of updated images, full-length video streams, live chat with models and many..."

I'd say that site could use an update. That number should be at least $10,000 in today's market.

Snake Doctor 06-20-2003 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf


some people are nicer and more generous than others

also, does mark tiarra have a portfolio? I would like to see if hes as good as you say he is :thumbsup

They did the design for Kara's, arguably the most successful paysite in the history of paysites, that alone should tell you how good they are :winkwink:

Bottom line is unless you know enough that you don't have to ask anyone questions, or unless you have the cash to hire a consultant like Tiarra or KimmyKim to walk you through things, you're not ready to start a paysite.

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2


They did the design for Kara's, arguably the most successful paysite in the history of paysites, that alone should tell you how good they are :winkwink:

Bottom line is unless you know enough that you don't have to ask anyone questions, or unless you have the cash to hire a consultant like Tiarra or KimmyKim to walk you through things, you're not ready to start a paysite.

impressive :thumbsup

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 05:54 PM

whats mark tiarras website please?

Marcus 06-20-2003 06:21 PM

Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great. :thumbsup

buddyjuf 06-20-2003 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great. :thumbsup
thanx alot buddy :thumbsup

martzy 06-20-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
Mark Tiarra's site is http://www.lumyr.com and he's great. :thumbsup
That girl doing the pose is hot on marks site.... damn

Xenophage 06-20-2003 11:19 PM

I would Highly reccomend Mark Tiarra for any of your design needs ! TOP Notch professional ! And has been around since the beginning.

D-man 06-21-2003 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
I would Highly reccomend Mark Tiarra for any of your design needs ! TOP Notch professional ! And has been around since the beginning.
Mark just came out with an ebook on paysites -

I got mine

D-man 06-21-2003 01:32 AM

not sure if this links on his site but here is the book!
http://www.lumyr.com/ebook/

Que? 06-21-2003 06:34 AM

You can tweak your paysite to run so smooth that you can more or less avoid support issus. Having said that you can find your self kneehigh in capital letters emails from more or less enraged members at any time (usually AOL noobs).

So get ready for 24 hour a day support jour, or rent support but that as so much else will drive up your overheads.

Most third party billing companies have a 48 hour support clause. Ie your bound to give support response within 48 hours or risk loosing their service.

A paysite is like a greedy baby screaming for breastfeed around the clock. And still there might be little of value pooping out in the other end:Graucho

I have found promotion to be the hardest and most time consuming part. Making a kick ass site is relatively easy.

Serge_Oprano 06-21-2003 06:35 AM

you should never start a paysite with the check Lens owes you!

Theo 06-21-2003 06:45 AM

the design should be THE LAST to worry about on a paysite

Reak 06-21-2003 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
you should never start a paysite with the check Lens owes you!
:321GFY


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