What am i doing wrong?? (site). - GoFuckYourself.com

Darren · 06-20-2003, 05:35 AM

www.raremoviesite.com can not get it to convert at all

what am I doing wrong.. apare from being honest and telling everyone it won't convert

Reak · 06-20-2003, 05:39 AM

looks good.. maby targeted traffic

PR_Phil · 06-20-2003, 05:40 AM

That shit looks good man,

My guess would be everyones blowing their load to your 11 pages of real hardcore images on the tour and never getting the chance to pull out their cc's!

Ironhorse · 06-20-2003, 05:43 AM

Have you tried a Trial price?

StacyCat · 06-20-2003, 05:44 AM

tone down the hardcore. You want to tease surfers, not give away everything before they buy!

PR_Phil · 06-20-2003, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse
Have you tried a Trial price?

Shit I never clicked through to see there was only a monthly option, well that counts out a ton of surfers.

El Pres · 06-20-2003, 05:49 AM

It's a great site, but a standard movie site with no trial
when there's so many sites like that now with trails or even 1 day free access has got to be pretty fucking amazing.

You probably need some exclusive stuff on the tour to
get people interested.

Theo · 06-20-2003, 06:04 AM

the doesn't convert results come from affiliate stats or from your own testing? With highspeed/broadband traffic it will perform decent....now the problem is that dialup surfers seek for movies as well. Your tour took a lot of time to load on my 56k and if I would be a surfer I would probably close it. You might be surprised but 56k surfers belong to the majority members of movie paysites. If you miss this fact you are in trouble :-)

Try a lighter version of your tour. Use 1-2 thumbs per movie scene. Check what % of your traffic reaches the join link.

Darren · 06-20-2003, 06:05 AM

well i tried 7 day trial, never tried a 1 day trial etc...

most tours show hardcore in it....

AdultNex · 06-20-2003, 06:06 AM

Quote:

You might be surprised but 56k surfers belong to the majority members of movie paysites. If you miss this fact you are in trouble :-)

Seriously? Can anyone back this up with their own stats?

Theo · 06-20-2003, 06:17 AM

if you ask a major per signup sponsor with movie paysites will tell you the same. At least that is what used to be not that long time ago. If you ask AdultBouncer it will tell you probably the opposite, they focus on high speed surfers.

Paysites are an illusion. For example adultmovienetwork or adultmoviestation sell an illusion in their tours. Both dialup and high speed surfers have an expectation till they hit the members area. On the other hand raremoviesite closes the door to the dialup surfers since it will take them a whole day to download a scene. As i said, with targetted high speed traffic it should do good.

Also, try to offer clips with resolutions if you want to increase retaining.

Darren · 06-20-2003, 06:23 AM

I tried a slightly lower grade tour but still same problem but u are rright the site is maninly aimed at Broadband users...

results from affiliate stats... the few which have tried it.

Nysus · 06-20-2003, 06:26 AM

Hey Darren,

How much traffic have you tested it with and what are sources?

I would try to get my hands on some traffic that I know converts on a similar site decently and test with that. Finding such traffic unless you have it yourself might be hard though.

Cheers,
Matt

neighborhood_bob · 06-20-2003, 06:29 AM

Catchy name, but are you really offering "rare" movies.
The ones shown on the tour didn't look "rare".
And do you really have 8000 gigs of content?
Like in 100 dedicated each with 80 gig drives?
Most surfers would realize that this is unlikely unless you are
part of an AVS, and you don't tout that in the tour.

OR did I miss something?

SirTreX · 06-20-2003, 06:43 AM

Add some free preview movies (15-30secs) to show your visitors the quality of your movies.

Hammer · 06-20-2003, 06:43 AM

Hot design but I rubbed one out just looking at your tour.

8 gigs or 8,000 megs maybe but 8,000 gigs? hmmmm....

I don't have anything new to offer but I would echo many of the other comments. I would think that the main reason you're not getting the signups you want is because of the lack of a trial though.

Do you think you might be losing potential signups because of the flashing 'Click here for free videos' button that goes to the join page and doesn't actually give me a free video sample?

One more thing. Check the site on netscape cause there's something funky going on with the graphics at the top of the page on my mac. I had to look at it on my PC to see it correctly.

jay_87 · 06-20-2003, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
www.raremoviesite.com can not get it to convert at all what am I doing wrong.. apare from being honest and telling everyone it won't convert

change up the images on the front. give some more variety. all the pics have the same theme...

EscortBiz · 06-20-2003, 06:49 AM

Make it look like a paysite not like a free site, meaning the layout looks alot like many of those free movie sites.

JamesK · 06-20-2003, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Make it look like a paysite not like a free site, meaning the layout looks alot like many of those free movie sites.

that's the gayest advice I ever saw

Theo · 06-20-2003, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard

that's the gayest advice I ever saw

obviously im in your ignore list

Sassyass · 06-20-2003, 07:21 AM

I've seen those chicks before.

I don't cruise porn so my guess is that they are pretty used up sets.

Go get some exclusive stuff to spice up the monotony.

ZoiNk · 06-20-2003, 07:22 AM

Personally, the first thing that caught my eye was "toll free phone access" which got me to think "damn, dialer access", then in smaller print you have "to our models".

"Click here for free videos" leads to a join page... Ummmm. Your free videos cost $28.95. If you are going to have that, you might want to have a free 30 minute trial or have a couple 30 second trailers.

If you cater to both highspeed and dialup users, State this. Let the people know what bandwidth types the movies come in, so before they spend $29 they know they will be able to watch it.

On the join page, the CC option is below my screen on 800x600, so I have to scroll down, remove the top header that says Click here for free porn, and such, so that people can see the Credit card option without having to scroll. (A lot of surfers still use 800x600).

ZoiNk

PicturesContent · 06-20-2003, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
www.raremoviesite.com can not get it to convert at all what am I doing wrong.. apare from being honest and telling everyone it won't convert

Where are you buying that content?

Pipecrew · 06-20-2003, 08:29 AM

Send m0rph3us and myself 3k USD and we will make your site convert.

Theo · 06-20-2003, 08:36 AM

and $50 to me please

Matt 26z · 06-20-2003, 08:44 AM

Looks just like the old Qmov layout, but your screen caps are not nearly as good.

Toker · 06-20-2003, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
I tried a slightly lower grade tour but still same problem but u are rright the site is maninly aimed at Broadband users...

results from affiliate stats... the few which have tried it.

Cut the tour to a minimum and put ya best stuff up..
I did better signup wise with a pay site by posting gallerys and having a link to join right on that with NO tour..
They wanted to see 300 more pix of her and large movies they had to pay, had 20,000 more pix there and advertised that too..
Not sure of the actual stats on pay site members but just over 50 percent of the net is on Wideband and it's growing everyday..
Put some Zip vids in and advertise it for people on dialups...
Most people that stay in a pay site do it because they're on Web TV and can't save stroking material of they don't know they'll be rebilled after a few day trial and some don't catch it for years...

strainer · 06-20-2003, 10:17 AM

I?d ditch all that ?toll free access? to the models, whatever that is. There can?t be that many people with $28.95 that would want to talk to a fat girl in a trailer in Indiana, even for free.

Juicy D. Links · 06-20-2003, 10:18 AM

Darren i joined your site for a month to check it out. I noticed when you enter menbers are you are on the main mensniche page and its hard to find the movies navigation wise. But i did get a few good rubouts

06-20-2003, 05:35 AM	#1
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	What am i doing wrong?? (site). www.raremoviesite.com can not get it to convert at all what am I doing wrong.. apare from being honest and telling everyone it won't convert __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

06-20-2003, 05:40 AM	#3
PR_Phil Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: knee deep in dirty diapers Posts: 1,960	That shit looks good man, My guess would be everyones blowing their load to your 11 pages of real hardcore images on the tour and never getting the chance to pull out their cc's! __________________

06-20-2003, 05:43 AM	#4
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	Have you tried a Trial price? __________________ [email protected]

06-20-2003, 05:49 AM	#7
El Pres Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Alicante, Spain Posts: 382	It's a great site, but a standard movie site with no trial when there's so many sites like that now with trails or even 1 day free access has got to be pretty fucking amazing. You probably need some exclusive stuff on the tour to get people interested. __________________ http://www.sdm-soluciones.com/design/

06-20-2003, 06:05 AM	#9
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	well i tried 7 day trial, never tried a 1 day trial etc... most tours show hardcore in it.... __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

06-20-2003, 05:39 AM	#2
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	looks good.. maby targeted traffic

06-20-2003, 05:44 AM	#5
StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	tone down the hardcore. You want to tease surfers, not give away everything before they buy!

06-20-2003, 06:04 AM	#8
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	the doesn't convert results come from affiliate stats or from your own testing? With highspeed/broadband traffic it will perform decent....now the problem is that dialup surfers seek for movies as well. Your tour took a lot of time to load on my 56k and if I would be a surfer I would probably close it. You might be surprised but 56k surfers belong to the majority members of movie paysites. If you miss this fact you are in trouble :-) Try a lighter version of your tour. Use 1-2 thumbs per movie scene. Check what % of your traffic reaches the join link.

06-20-2003, 06:17 AM	#11
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if you ask a major per signup sponsor with movie paysites will tell you the same. At least that is what used to be not that long time ago. If you ask AdultBouncer it will tell you probably the opposite, they focus on high speed surfers. Paysites are an illusion. For example adultmovienetwork or adultmoviestation sell an illusion in their tours. Both dialup and high speed surfers have an expectation till they hit the members area. On the other hand raremoviesite closes the door to the dialup surfers since it will take them a whole day to download a scene. As i said, with targetted high speed traffic it should do good. Also, try to offer clips with resolutions if you want to increase retaining.

06-20-2003, 06:23 AM	#12
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	I tried a slightly lower grade tour but still same problem but u are rright the site is maninly aimed at Broadband users... results from affiliate stats... the few which have tried it. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

06-20-2003, 06:26 AM	#13
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Hey Darren, How much traffic have you tested it with and what are sources? I would try to get my hands on some traffic that I know converts on a similar site decently and test with that. Finding such traffic unless you have it yourself might be hard though. Cheers, Matt

06-20-2003, 06:29 AM	#14
neighborhood_bob Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 83	Catchy name, but are you really offering "rare" movies. The ones shown on the tour didn't look "rare". And do you really have 8000 gigs of content? Like in 100 dedicated each with 80 gig drives? Most surfers would realize that this is unlikely unless you are part of an AVS, and you don't tout that in the tour. OR did I miss something?

06-20-2003, 06:43 AM	#15
SirTreX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 514	Add some free preview movies (15-30secs) to show your visitors the quality of your movies.

06-20-2003, 06:43 AM	#16
Hammer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 961	Hot design but I rubbed one out just looking at your tour. 8 gigs or 8,000 megs maybe but 8,000 gigs? hmmmm.... I don't have anything new to offer but I would echo many of the other comments. I would think that the main reason you're not getting the signups you want is because of the lack of a trial though. Do you think you might be losing potential signups because of the flashing 'Click here for free videos' button that goes to the join page and doesn't actually give me a free video sample? One more thing. Check the site on netscape cause there's something funky going on with the graphics at the top of the page on my mac. I had to look at it on my PC to see it correctly. __________________ Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting Last edited by Hammer; 06-20-2003 at 06:51 AM..

06-20-2003, 06:49 AM	#18
EscortBiz Fuck Checks, CASH only! Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 19,422	Make it look like a paysite not like a free site, meaning the layout looks alot like many of those free movie sites. __________________ Spanking, Medical Fetish, Sleeping, Strap-on Anal Lesbians, Girls Fucking Guys, Handjob site REAL HOT, Shemales, Anal and Ass Licking sites 100% Real EXCLUSIVE with amazing retention, ccbill payouts, lots of content FREE FTP HOSTING Promote the largest and oldest member paid escort site, Converts 10 times better then any dating site, CCBill payouts ICQ# 158802076

06-20-2003, 07:21 AM	#21
Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	I've seen those chicks before. I don't cruise porn so my guess is that they are pretty used up sets. Go get some exclusive stuff to spice up the monotony.

06-20-2003, 07:22 AM	#22
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	Personally, the first thing that caught my eye was "toll free phone access" which got me to think "damn, dialer access", then in smaller print you have "to our models". "Click here for free videos" leads to a join page... Ummmm. Your free videos cost $28.95. If you are going to have that, you might want to have a free 30 minute trial or have a couple 30 second trailers. If you cater to both highspeed and dialup users, State this. Let the people know what bandwidth types the movies come in, so before they spend $29 they know they will be able to watch it. On the join page, the CC option is below my screen on 800x600, so I have to scroll down, remove the top header that says Click here for free porn, and such, so that people can see the Credit card option without having to scroll. (A lot of surfers still use 800x600). ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

06-20-2003, 08:29 AM	#24
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Send m0rph3us and myself 3k USD and we will make your site convert.

06-20-2003, 08:36 AM	#25
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	and $50 to me please

06-20-2003, 08:44 AM	#26
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Looks just like the old Qmov layout, but your screen caps are not nearly as good.

06-20-2003, 10:17 AM	#28
strainer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 418	I?d ditch all that ?toll free access? to the models, whatever that is. There can?t be that many people with $28.95 that would want to talk to a fat girl in a trailer in Indiana, even for free.

06-20-2003, 10:18 AM	#29
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Darren i joined your site for a month to check it out. I noticed when you enter menbers are you are on the main mensniche page and its hard to find the movies navigation wise. But i did get a few good rubouts