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Old 06-16-2003, 11:34 AM   #1
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Do you like this desig

http://xagraphics.com/portfolio/lisaswetdreams/

Do you like this design?
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:35 AM   #2
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looks like a typical cen clone
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:36 AM   #3
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I hate those generic box design type paysites.
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:37 AM   #4
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doesn't look bad, but the images could use some work.
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:39 AM   #5
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:41 AM   #6
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woha this layout sux big time !
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:44 AM   #7
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make "lisa's wet dreams" look better, the font+design of the logo sux
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:45 AM   #8
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depends how much you payed for it,
but no i dont like it,
looks the same as everyone else.
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:47 AM   #9
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depends how much you payed for it,
but no i dont like it,
looks the same as everyone else.

100$
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:49 AM   #10
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100$
XA sold you a 4 page tour/Join package for $100 bucks?

I don't believe you.
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:51 AM   #11
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XA sold you a 4 page tour/Join package for $100 bucks?

I don't believe you.
right, i wanna buy it but i was asking if you like the design and yes their could be 1.000 th of the same but for 100$ its worthed right ?
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:53 AM   #12
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XA sold you a 4 page tour/Join package for $100 bucks?

I don't believe you.
Xa was in a bind a few weeks ago. I emember he was making an offer on this site in that ballpark on AWI.
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Old 06-16-2003, 11:59 AM   #13
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Xa was in a bind a few weeks ago. I emember he was making an offer on this site in that ballpark on AWI.
no shit huh? Damn.... competition must be getting fucking brutal...
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Old 06-16-2003, 01:07 PM   #14
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Old 06-16-2003, 01:09 PM   #15
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Looks good but it's the same old shit.
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Old 06-16-2003, 01:10 PM   #16
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Old 06-16-2003, 01:12 PM   #17
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Funny, in the past he had a paysite called lisa wet dreams

But over the design, well nothing special but for 100 bucks, you can't complain about this job!

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Old 06-16-2003, 01:17 PM   #18
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That would have been considered a nice design about 3 years ago.

When will you guys realize that by selling your services for next to nothing it hurts us all? Especially when you have to rip another designer to keep your prices so cheap.
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Old 06-16-2003, 03:18 PM   #19
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The quality of the design isn't that bad. About the same quality I was putting out before hiring a design staff... That was 2 years ago though!

:-)

I doubt the site will convert that well, simply because it does look like so many other sites out there. nothing really unique to it.


As for AMP's post about times getting tough... The design biz is getting a lot tougher lately with all of these guys offering up designs at 25% the rate of a decent design. After summer times will get better. Companies are trying to stockpile their site portfolios before InterNext with the least amount of $$ as possible. After Internext, when people start promoting the sites, they will run to the proven design companies for sites that actually convert:-)

I'll be there to accept them with open arms! lol

Tough times now means being booked for 2-3 weeks rather than 3 months.. It happened last year this time.. It will pick up:-)
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That would have been considered a nice design about 3 years ago.

When will you guys realize that by selling your services for next to nothing it hurts us all? Especially when you have to rip another designer to keep your prices so cheap.
You get what you pay for. The larger companies know this. And unless you are able to dictate every aspect of a design.. a cheap designer isn't worth it in the long run.
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Old 06-16-2003, 03:22 PM   #21
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No, the colors are too Miami Vice looking.
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Old 06-16-2003, 03:35 PM   #22
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cookie cutter teen site. should convert 1:5,000


Sydney Moon isn't a teen, hasn't been for a LONG time! Either are half the other girls.


graphically it's ok, just looks like the all the other cookie cutter teen sites.
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:27 PM   #23
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When will you guys realize that by selling your services for next to nothing it hurts us all? Especially when you have to rip another designer to keep your prices so cheap.
I'm ok with you Hammer!

When I receive quote request, and I send back my price for the kind of job asked (That I consider fair for both me and the client), I always hear WOW too expensive.... !!!! The guys nos expect to get a full tour, + join + banners for 500 $. and he ask, "Do you provide the members area? "

usually I base myself at about 40 to 45 $ / hour for big jobs, but when I look at the price they are willing to pay, it would give 15$/hour, I better flip hamburgers at that price ;)

There are too many price cutters. I have seen guys out there that are very good, but man they are way too cheap, it kills our business.... if it continue, will be 1000, of starving designers. The pie is not bigger that the old days, but they are more people around it...
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