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Old 06-16-2003, 04:14 AM   #1
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Marvin - The Viper - Congrats you completly FUCKED ME

Jokes on me I guess, thats what happens when your so busy you dont even notice things..

The sig...which is the only part of the 500$ package I actualy use
is useless...

Someone finaly pointed out to me that Professional is spelled wrong on the sig. So congrats you completly fucked up with EVERY part of the project, and I still paid you.. What a fucking moron I am.
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:18 AM   #2
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:19 AM   #3
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Can I issue a chargeback from a paypal that was funded by a visa backed check card anyone know?
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:23 AM   #4
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Can I issue a chargeback from a paypal that was funded by a visa backed check card anyone know?
You have so many days through paypal to do it. You can always charge back from the card directly but be warned, paypal is likely to close your account. If you are gonna do it make sure you empty it out.
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:26 AM   #5
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Great I paid with the company pay pal account which we would rather keep open as its tied to our checking account for deposits and at that time it was my personal visa debt card for funding but we just changed it over to the company visa card..

Great...Just fucking great...
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:33 AM   #6
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:44 AM   #7
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Can I issue a chargeback from a paypal that was funded by a visa backed check card anyone know?
yes, i had to do it last month.
i still have my account:

The Chargeback Affidavit Form can be found by following these steps:

1. .paypal.com/wf/f=dc_unauth

2. Click 'Continue'

3. Click 'Affidavit of Disputed PayPal ATM/Debit Card Transactions

4. Complete the form and click 'Print Form'

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· The form must be completed in its entirety prior to mailing

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P.O. Box 45950
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*In order to process this investigation in a timely manner, we must
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:56 AM   #8
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I'm so fucking pissed off about this. By the end of my working relationship with this cheesehead I was so sick of dealing with him I took what I could that was good and wrote off the rest as a loss. Its more than likely all my fault, I did not give good enough explination or my feedback was lacking or something...

I cussed him out at the end, and blocked him on ICQ...

I tried my best to stay our of his and amp's fight even though amp was totaly 100% correct.

Oh well live and learn... I'm sure he will be posting all the ICQ logs like he usualy does.
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:59 AM   #9
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Maybe you should ask him for a refund before doing a chargeback?
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:03 AM   #10
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Yea right, like that will happen. I once asked my lawyer for a refund on about 10 hours he did not wind up using, he laughed at me.
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:04 AM   #11
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Yea right, like that will happen. I once asked my lawyer for a refund on about 10 hours he did not wind up using, he laughed at me.
You made your lawyer make your webpages? No wonder they sucked.
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:08 AM   #12
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hahhaa... Thanks Teen, I actualy laughed.
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:09 AM   #13
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why dont you talk to him and ask to redo it ?
TheViper doesnt seem to be some kind of cheater.
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:10 AM   #14
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He's not a cheeter, never accused him of cheeting.

He's just not ready for prime time
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Old 06-16-2003, 06:17 AM   #15
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He's just not ready for prime time.
Fucking classic.

Good post.
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Old 06-16-2003, 06:22 AM   #16
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I am not going to post the log, because this is a customer who actually paid, and now decides to turn his back on me because he screwed up the design. Only one quote.

---------------------------------------------------
avalon 8-5-03 1:20 ill prob give you the paysite

avalon 8-5-03 1:20 splash 3 tour 14 matching galleries
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For the good order, this was after I finished up the project. If you don't like the work I did, you will probably not say such things. Ofcourse you can shout now: "No I just wanted to take revenge on him" but that is not going to work buddy.

Look at http://www.zone-adult.com How it looks now (LOL)

And at how I originally delivered the design. The guy said he wanted clean design. Well zone-adult.com at the moment does not clean at all.

Just wanted to state this, since you started calling me names for no reason on ICQ. I have to agree with you on one thing though, the signature spelling mistake was a little bit foolish, but hey I am not perfect (who is?) So I will redo do that now for you and post the link when its done in this post.



This is the original design.

http://www.adultcreation.com/portfolio/zoneadult/

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Old 06-16-2003, 06:55 AM   #17
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http://www.adultcreation.com/portfol...tures/sig3.gif

Here is the sig without the spelling mistake.
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Old 06-16-2003, 09:07 AM   #18
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Can I issue a chargeback from a paypal that was funded by a visa backed check card anyone know?
You bet you can. And if he didn't provide you with a fedEX package in the mail...you'll get your money back. Some shithead pulled this on my girlfriend, and she had to eat it.
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Old 06-16-2003, 09:20 AM   #19
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I took your design and threw it out, it was easier than having to go in and correct all the major mistakes. Why do you need a frame set for the splash page marvin, what the hell does that accomplish. The header files use mistral which looks like shit due to the breaks in the font, you remember those breaks the one where my printer lauged at me, you know how we fixed the problem... We went in zoomed in and filled them with the pen tool. Something you obviously could not figure out how to do....

So I pulled it out of the frame and re-did it, figured I would pull the button out as well, then I said you know what...fuck it and I had digifan go in and re-do the splash header and spruce up the logo. The rest of the site we shitcanned cause it sucked ass dude, it was first grade shit..

You even left the front page autogeneration code in it...front page????? at least use dreamweaver. You did not even put the graphics in there own folders when you zipped it up...unprofessional, delivered baddly...

Like I said before your not a scammer your just not ready for prime time...
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I wont issue a charge back, I was just pissed and steaming. Im not like that. Thank you for fixing the graphic I will use it again.

Take what i've said to heart, and grow from it...

Best of luck...
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Old 06-16-2003, 09:58 AM   #22
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Like I said before your not a scammer your just not ready for prime time...
Yea, the redo of the splash looks very succeeded indeed

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Old 06-16-2003, 10:02 AM   #23
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Ok marvin... I demand a refund...
Fuck the sig file...fuck your shitty splash...fuck your attitude, your shit was delivered like crap, your shit looked like crap, your shit does not work for us....

Even on your sample that you posted here your not bright enough to link the enter button..the button that took you 3-4 days to actualy do, well according to the messages I got "Im just working on a button" after this god like button was crafted it did not even have a fucking link to enter the site.

My lauch of my company website was delayed for over 4 weeks while we had something else built on the inside, cause your shit did not hold up to par. End of story...


Refund me withen 24 hours...Another satisfied customer

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Old 06-16-2003, 10:05 AM   #24
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Old 06-16-2003, 10:06 AM   #25
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Refund me withen 24 hours...

BHAHAHAHA
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Yea i know im not going to get it...but it felt good to say...
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Old 06-16-2003, 12:27 PM   #28
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another victim of the Viper....
Dude, what took you so long ;P.
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Dude, what took you so long ;P.
was busy doing things that matter.
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so you are saying this was first class junk? In what kind of dreamworld are you living. You bought a template.



Including this sig.

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was busy doing things that matter.
Dude you are a boardwhore, you have no life
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Dude you are a boardwhore, you have no life
as long as YOU think that.... that's all I care about. Because god knows, I live for what you think.
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I am pretty sure I am not the only one who thinks about it that way.

My offer still stands btw
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I am pretty sure I am not the only one who thinks about it that way.

My offer still stands btw
shut the fuck up dumbass. Go beat your pud or something.
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Dude you are a boardwhore, you have no life
He's the boardwhore with the job at adult.com and you are....? :P
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"the job adult.com"....



congrats m8, you made it in life now
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Viper you sure know how to make friends..

Where's my refund...by the way...

I had digifan start a new sig, she knows how to treat her customers
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so you are saying this was first class junk? In what kind of dreamworld are you living. You bought a template.



Including this sig.
You have a bottom horizontal scrollbar on that page. That is not very professional at all. The design is not bad or ugly but it is not really top-notch adult design. The big square graphic in the frame and the simple oval gradient buttons are pretty basic design elements. In the left frame, the image stops about 2 inches from the bottom of the page and leaves a big empty white block. Not something most people would want to pay for, I think.

I don't have any affiliation with Ketadream but I think he's right about this: you need more polishing to play in the big leagues. Go check out some of the portfolios you'll find around here and you'll see what you're up against.

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Look at the fucking font on the page headers...thats shit...

You cant even go in and color it with a pen tool...

If i delivered that to a customer I'd be fired...

Same thing with the 300dpi images my printer laughed at me, I had to go in and correct them myself..

That is far from a 400-500$ design...

The sigs not bad, to bad i got sick of dealing with you nothing is ever wrong, you are teflon man, nothing sticks to you...

Click latest news go to a 404 page...good work...
Where you high when you packeged this?

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Oh yea, its first class junk...
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I think i wound up getting cought up in the moment.

My sugestion to you viper is learn when to keep your mouth shut, you seem to have made yourself look worse in every thread you are in. Also brush up on what you deliver...

Make sure the spelling is correct, remove code that is useless, clean up the code a bit, put the images in the proper directory learn how to use winzip properly. When a customer gets his files he does not want to have to sort through a mess. He does not want to have to link up buttons, he wants to add text and move on. Do you know why designers are moving away from frame designs? I said no frames you delivered frames...I got sick of arguing with you. I should have stood firm, that was my mistake I let you get away with it and I did not call you on any of it. I was so busy I did not have the time or patience to argue with you. Oh yea and its very unprofessional to ask your customer to pay for your paypal fee's... factor that into your price dont be oh by the way send me more money to cover the paypal fee's... Thats cost of doing business...

Take this for what you will, ignore it for all I care. I am not going to charge back, if you wish to refund me the money for just the design that will not be used (about 300-400) I would consider that fair. (Hell send me back 150$ and ill be happy)But its not worth me killing my paypal off over it.

What will be used
- Interzone Logo
- Zone Adult Logo


I'm done with this...

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Yea, the redo of the splash looks very succeeded indeed

Dude here's a free tip: Stop assaulting your customers and most certainly don't do it in public. Your goal should not be having the last word in a dispute with your clients, but making them happy and smiling on your way to the bank.
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btw Ketadream, the current splash ain't exactly an improvement, is it?
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Dude here's a free tip: Stop assaulting your customers and most certainly don't do it in public. Your goal should not be having the last word in a dispute with your clients, but making them happy and smiling on your way to the bank.
LOL who is assaulting who? Look at the topic of the thread.
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i think Viper should cool down on the attitude a bit but
besides that his design skills are average or even above
average compared to other 'designers' on this board.

Ketadream just figured Viper was an easy target and
suitable for his 10 minutes of fame.

Seem clear to me.
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You know what viper, you are a complete and total fuckwad..

I gave you, your fucking out and you decided to throw more shit at me...I was your customer you delivered CRAP. OF course you do no wrong.

Your teflon boy you do no wrong, now you fucked up.
You have your choices, you have decided to attack me once again. My topic was not an attack my first post was not an attack it was the fucking truth you deliverd the sig file with a mis-spelling and I was forced to have to deal with you. Im was more pissed off at myself for paying your sorry ass.

You havent even seen the inside of the site, and you know what I dont need flashy graphics I wanted CLEAN no frames and simple. At least the current splash page is not in a fucking frame who the hell puts a splash page in a frame???!!??! We removed your original graphic cause it scrolled at 1024 we tried to cut it down but it looked like shit so we had it re-done..

My content and services and ability to shoot custom are what I am selling not web design.

You now have a RABBID and UNHAPPY customer on your hands, how are you going to deal with it...

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Old 06-16-2003, 04:18 PM   #48
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:25 PM   #49
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I paid via visa...

I can issue a charge back there if I wish...
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:26 PM   #50
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Go ahead

You fucking dickwad you assaulted me on GFY for no reason. Fucking moron get the fuck out
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