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Tuga · 06-14-2003, 06:05 AM

A big portuguese board is posting stolen content from one of my paysites. I already asked the mods to take it down, what else can I do? Should I try to contact their host? Threaten them? What?..

funkmaster · 06-14-2003, 06:09 AM

... if content gets posted on the net it turns to "public domain" ... pretty much nothing you can do about it, beside keeping your content of the web ("private domain").

Tuga · 06-14-2003, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... if content gets posted on the net it turns to "public domain" ... pretty much nothing you can do about it, beside keeping your content of the web ("private domain").

Are you drunk?

funkmaster · 06-14-2003, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Tuga

Are you drunk?

... stone cold sober, mate !

InsaneMidget · 06-14-2003, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... if content gets posted on the net it turns to "public domain" ... pretty much nothing you can do about it, beside keeping your content of the web ("private domain").

thats bullshit dude.

crescentx · 06-14-2003, 06:21 AM

Copyright is there, even if you don't register your content. Think it's $700 per image. Write them, you don't get satisfaction, write their ISP.

-doug

LadyMischief · 06-14-2003, 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... if content gets posted on the net it turns to "public domain" ... pretty much nothing you can do about it, beside keeping your content of the web ("private domain").

This is 100% bullshit.. The only time something is "public domain" is if a) it's produced by the government or b) the original artist or photographer abandons their copyright. Read the DMCA lately?

Scootermuze · 06-14-2003, 06:38 AM

I can't help but think he was kidding..

Tuga · 06-14-2003, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze
I can't help but think he was kidding..

I agree. But I still think I was drunk

How can I find who hosts the board?

Libertine · 06-14-2003, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

This is 100% bullshit.. The only time something is "public domain" is if a) it's produced by the government or b) the original artist or photographer abandons their copyright. Read the DMCA lately?

There is a difference between <b>public domain</b> and <b>"public domain"</b>. Think about it.

fnet · 06-14-2003, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

This is 100% bullshit.. The only time something is "public domain" is if a) it's produced by the government or b) the original artist or photographer abandons their copyright. Read the DMCA lately?

No one other than lawyers and a few ip nerds read through the full text of the DMCA.

Paul Markham · 06-14-2003, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by fnet

No one other than lawyers and a few ip nerds read through the full text of the DMCA.

You might wish you had read it when you get served one and ignore it.

fnet · 06-14-2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by charly
You might wish you had read it when you get served one and ignore it.

This statement is just silly. Are you suggesting that I've violated the DMCA?

I read legal summaries. e.g., Lessig who actually knows IP law quite well and can put the legislation in context of precdent.

I contend that less than .01% of GFY users have read the DMCA cover to cover. Have you? Can you quote it?

loverboy · 06-14-2003, 07:59 AM

pirates?

Loch · 06-14-2003, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... if content gets posted on the net it turns to "public domain" ... pretty much nothing you can do about it, beside keeping your content of the web ("private domain").

HE IS KIDDING PPL!!!

*i hope*

foe · 06-14-2003, 11:13 AM

img src a site.

Board are database intensive, very easy to take it down.

foe · 06-14-2003, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Tuga

I agree. But I still think I was drunk

How can I find who hosts the board?

1 look at their domain reg info.

I still say you shoudl img src it.

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 06:01 AM

If I img src them... I will be starting a war. And I dont need a war with a board that has 100+ leechers and some hackers connected at the same time, all the time.

I will try to find their host and talk to them, and I'll talk to their sponsor (I know him).

If all else fails, can I img src them in a way that they cant track it? And what kind of traffic would I need to take them down?

Of course this is not legal, and I am just curious about it

pheal · 06-15-2003, 06:08 AM

Bom dia Tuga!

What's the URL of the board? I speak portugese too and maybe I can help you.

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by pheal
Bom dia Tuga!

What's the URL of the board? I speak portugese too and maybe I can help you.

Boa tarde

The url is www.chupa-mos.com
DNS ns1.isp4b.com and ns3.isp4b.com

I think the mail of the host is [email protected] , but I was just playing with some dns tools. Can anyone find more info?

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 06:36 AM

Site information about zone isp4b.com.
;
Primary Nameserver: ns1.rackshack.net

Is this it? Is rackshack the host?

JFPdude · 06-15-2003, 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by Tuga
Site information about zone isp4b.com.
;
Primary Nameserver: ns1.rackshack.net

Is this it? Is rackshack the host?

Yes Rackshack is the host .... [email protected] is where the complaints should go.

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 06:45 AM

Thanks JFPdude , I'm on a live chat with them, if I cant solve it there I'll use the mail.

SPIKE326 · 06-15-2003, 08:56 AM

Contact the host, they'll shut it down, or else they would be sued as well for supporting such a site.

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 10:07 AM

I mailed Rackshack, but I'm not really in a position to sue them.... It's not worth it

Ketadream · 06-15-2003, 10:16 AM

Wow and at one time I considered myself a hacker...

What would img src'ing a site do?

mule · 06-15-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Ketadream
Wow and at one time I considered myself a hacker...

What would img src'ing a site do?

Bring it to its knees, if you have serious traffic

Cindyff · 06-15-2003, 10:18 AM

OK just so everyone is shooting form the same place ? remains with the originator of the image for a minimum of 50 years ( i believe this has or will soon be extended to 75 years) it dose not have to be registered to be ? although its advisable. Each copyright infringement is punishable by a fine of up to $150,000 per infringement ( that is not per image ) So if you find 10 images being used on a website on one page that is 1 infringement.

Since 1995 we have successful sued and won 6 cases of copyright thief both on and off the internet but its a long costly affair. You should go after the ISP if you get no joy from the webmaster of the website. Put everything in writing and get a return receipt for each letter sent, good luck

Cindy xx

mule · 06-15-2003, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Cindyff
its a long costly affair

How costly? Hopefully less than the $150,000 per infringement ?

06-15-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Tuga
A big portuguese board is posting stolen content from one of my paysites. I already asked the mods to take it down, what else can I do? Should I try to contact their host? Threaten them? What?..

I hope you're copyrigh is on each pic.... if he sells it well call a lawyer..... as to post on a board...... and people see your copyrigh on it.. nothing wrong there. unless he took youre watermark off now thast ????????

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Angelonfire

I hope you're copyrigh is on each pic.... if he sells it well call a lawyer..... as to post on a board...... and people see your copyrigh on it.. nothing wrong there. unless he took youre watermark off now thast ????????

Cindyff tks for the answer.

Angelonfire there's no watermark on the pics, that doesnt mean there's no copyright.

NBDesign · 06-15-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by crescentx
Copyright is there, even if you don't register your content. Think it's $700 per image. Write them, you don't get satisfaction, write their ISP.

-doug

That's good for the States... International Copyright is different and very hard to enforce... Unless you have big bucks...

VirtuMike · 06-15-2003, 05:37 PM

I fucking HATE Rackshack. The whole company is poorly run, poorly operated, and offers poor service. I would LOVE to see you slam them with a DMCA suit. I might even consider offering you one of my lawyers to hook that up if it's big enough.

You send them the DMCA and they have 24 hours to react. Do this over a weekend if possible. If they don't, then you pick a state and file in small claims court (or real court if you want). Pick your most convenient venue, and you include that they have minimum contacts wherever you are, and drag their asses to you. They may be more than willing to settle given the cost of fighting a case in your venue. Talk to a lawyer.

foe · 06-15-2003, 05:47 PM

again i state img src

Tuga · 06-15-2003, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by VirtuMike
I fucking HATE Rackshack. The whole company is poorly run, poorly operated, and offers poor service. I would LOVE to see you slam them with a DMCA suit. I might even consider offering you one of my lawyers to hook that up if it's big enough.

You send them the DMCA and they have 24 hours to react. Do this over a weekend if possible. If they don't, then you pick a state and file in small claims court (or real court if you want). Pick your most convenient venue, and you include that they have minimum contacts wherever you are, and drag their asses to you. They may be more than willing to settle given the cost of fighting a case in your venue. Talk to a lawyer.

I am in Portugal, not in the US.

I am still waiting for an answer from them.

FillmoreSlim · 06-15-2003, 07:57 PM

How can you be mad at people that can make this?

http://www.milinkito.com/swf/bart.ph...Y ourself.com

Tuga · 06-16-2003, 03:59 AM

They didn't create it, it's in spanish. They just posted it, like my content

Still no word from rackshack

06-14-2003, 06:05 AM	#1
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Board stealing content A big portuguese board is posting stolen content from one of my paysites. I already asked the mods to take it down, what else can I do? Should I try to contact their host? Threaten them? What?.. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

06-14-2003, 06:21 AM	#6
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06-15-2003, 06:01 AM	#18
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	If I img src them... I will be starting a war. And I dont need a war with a board that has 100+ leechers and some hackers connected at the same time, all the time. I will try to find their host and talk to them, and I'll talk to their sponsor (I know him). If all else fails, can I img src them in a way that they cant track it? And what kind of traffic would I need to take them down? Of course this is not legal, and I am just curious about it __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

06-15-2003, 06:36 AM	#21
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Site information about zone isp4b.com. ; Primary Nameserver: ns1.rackshack.net Is this it? Is rackshack the host? __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

06-15-2003, 06:45 AM	#23
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Thanks JFPdude , I'm on a live chat with them, if I cant solve it there I'll use the mail. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

06-14-2003, 06:09 AM	#2
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... if content gets posted on the net it turns to "public domain" ... pretty much nothing you can do about it, beside keeping your content of the web ("private domain").

06-14-2003, 06:38 AM	#8
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	I can't help but think he was kidding..

06-14-2003, 07:59 AM	#14
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	pirates?

06-14-2003, 11:13 AM	#16
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	img src a site. Board are database intensive, very easy to take it down.

06-15-2003, 06:08 AM	#19
pheal Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 219	Bom dia Tuga! What's the URL of the board? I speak portugese too and maybe I can help you.

06-15-2003, 08:56 AM	#24
SPIKE326 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 257	Contact the host, they'll shut it down, or else they would be sued as well for supporting such a site.

06-15-2003, 10:07 AM	#25
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	I mailed Rackshack, but I'm not really in a position to sue them.... It's not worth it __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

06-15-2003, 10:16 AM	#26
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Wow and at one time I considered myself a hacker... What would img src'ing a site do? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-15-2003, 10:18 AM	#28
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	OK just so everyone is shooting form the same place ? remains with the originator of the image for a minimum of 50 years ( i believe this has or will soon be extended to 75 years) it dose not have to be registered to be ? although its advisable. Each copyright infringement is punishable by a fine of up to $150,000 per infringement ( that is not per image ) So if you find 10 images being used on a website on one page that is 1 infringement. Since 1995 we have successful sued and won 6 cases of copyright thief both on and off the internet but its a long costly affair. You should go after the ISP if you get no joy from the webmaster of the website. Put everything in writing and get a return receipt for each letter sent, good luck Cindy xx

06-15-2003, 05:37 PM	#33
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	I fucking HATE Rackshack. The whole company is poorly run, poorly operated, and offers poor service. I would LOVE to see you slam them with a DMCA suit. I might even consider offering you one of my lawyers to hook that up if it's big enough. You send them the DMCA and they have 24 hours to react. Do this over a weekend if possible. If they don't, then you pick a state and file in small claims court (or real court if you want). Pick your most convenient venue, and you include that they have minimum contacts wherever you are, and drag their asses to you. They may be more than willing to settle given the cost of fighting a case in your venue. Talk to a lawyer. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

06-15-2003, 05:47 PM	#34
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	again i state img src

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06-16-2003, 03:59 AM	#37
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	They didn't create it, it's in spanish. They just posted it, like my content Still no word from rackshack __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627