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Adult Site Traffic · 06-12-2003, 09:08 PM

Who is this person?

They ordered traffic to two URL's, had it delivered and then told Paypal it was fraud.

James Bell
8740 Villa La Jolla Drive #20
La Jolla, CA
92037
USA
[email protected]

This was ordered and delivered almost a month ago. I'm sick of this shit. Is there anything I can do to contest it with Paypal, or they can just claim "fraudulent funds" and get their money back?

Advice??

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We have conducted an investigation regarding a particular
payment you received. We have determined that the
funds were fraudulent and have completed a reversal of the
payment. The funds from the following transaction have
been debited from your account.

Transaction Date: May 25, 2003 15:42:59
Transaction Amount: $19.00
Buyer's Email: [email protected]

If you have questions regarding this reversed transaction
you may send an email to [email protected].

Thank you,
PayPal Account Review Department
-------------------------
It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of
potentially fraudulent funds. We have initiated an investigation
into this event. In the meantime, we have placed a
pending reversal on the funds in question until the
investigation is complete. This pending reversal will
show as a deduction in your available balance. In
the meantime, you are free to continue transacting using
your PayPal account.

Transaction Date: May 25, 2003 17:20:31

Transaction Amount: $79.00

Payor's Email: [email protected]
------------------------

If you are selling or dealing with this person, maybe you'd want to think twice?

Is there anything I can do where paypal is concerned?

Thanks,

AST 121760557

detoxed · 06-12-2003, 09:10 PM

that really sucks, not a damn thing you can do

sarettah · 06-12-2003, 09:17 PM

A cheap lesson...

never do business with a yahoo address or any other free email address.....

Make em use the one their isp gave them...

Spunky · 06-12-2003, 09:19 PM

with paypals rules regarding adult shit..good luck, you'll wind up sucking it up

Adult Site Traffic · 06-12-2003, 09:22 PM

This is the site. http://www.pornpiczon.net/banks/banks.htm

I wonder if he knows how much shit one could cause another with this info? I mean, if anyone wanted to

Not that I EVER would

Looks like they gave bogus info to the registrar too...

Can't they pull your domain for that? LOL

AST

Bobby Fissure · 06-12-2003, 09:24 PM

The guy lives in La Jolla (San Diego's playground for millionaires) and yet he scams you for a few bucks? Odd.

FlyingIguana · 06-12-2003, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobby Fissure
The guy lives in La Jolla (San Diego's playground for millionaires) and yet he scams you for a few bucks? Odd.

how do you think he became a millionaire?

4Pics · 06-12-2003, 09:28 PM

that sucks man

Didya try contacting his sponsors (cybererotica?)

cash69 · 06-12-2003, 09:30 PM

paypal SUCKS they basically tell you to fucking bad.. suprised he actually got it charged back.. saying it is fraud is the only way.. if you have proof that you delivered what he got.. can try calling paypal but they don't even listen everything you say they will just say sir we cannot do anything sir we cannot do anything.. paypal sucks

roly · 06-12-2003, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
We have determined that the
funds were fraudulent and have completed a reversal of the
payment.

-------------------------

It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of
potentially fraudulent funds.

they say fraudulent funds, are you sure they didn't use a stolen credit card ?

Adult Site Traffic · 06-12-2003, 09:38 PM

Funny thing is, users are mailed 3 times through the course of delivers.

Twice at the very beginning, and again within 1000 hits of the end.

He was notified that delivery began, and this is NOT fraud.

Here's what I sent paypal in the second e-mail to them, but I dunno if it will help or not..
----------
>>Dear Liz Wright,

>>It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of
>>potentially fraudulent funds.

This person was e-mailed instantly in both instances, how could they possibly come back after the delivery was complete and claim fraud?

Please explain to me why I have no recourse in the matter, or nothing to say, or the possibility to present proof?

The traffic was delivered, and that's my money. I earned it.

Thank you,

Liz Wright

-----------------
A new traffic purchase was made. Details below.

Name: James Bell
Email: [email protected]
Hits Purchased: 5000
-------------------
A new traffic purchase was made. Details below.

Name: James Bell
Email: [email protected]
Hits Purchased: 25000

Adult Site Traffic · 06-12-2003, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roly

they say fraudulent funds, are you sure they didn't use a stolen credit card ?

Well, but he was notified instantly. Both from paypal and from my script.

Maybe if he would have came back and said... hey, wait a minute.. But he didn't.

Also, he is a verified user, so the cc thing wouldn't work out, would it? It goes thru a verification process..

SleazyDream · 06-12-2003, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FarleyHiggins
A cheap lesson...

never do business with a yahoo address or any other free email address.....

most of the paying members on paysites today sign up with free email addresses. should we all cancel their accounts and refund their money?

daisy diaz · 06-12-2003, 09:52 PM

I'm really sorry wish I could help!

lil2rich4u2 · 06-12-2003, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FarleyHiggins
A cheap lesson...

never do business with a yahoo address or any other free email address.....

Make em use the one their isp gave them...

free email has nothing to do with it.

paypal has it in the polocies that ANY complaint made against you is NOT disputable unless it is a physical item, and you have tracking information to prove delivery.

I got burned for alot of cash and since then dont use paypal anymore.

Adult Site Traffic · 06-12-2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

free email has nothing to do with it.

paypal has it in the polocies that ANY complaint made against you is NOT disputable unless it is a physical item, and you have tracking information to prove delivery.

I got burned for alot of cash and since then dont use paypal anymore.

Unfortionately, it's coming to that. It's going to really suck for the 99% of the honest people we have as customers who have paypal as their only payment method.

I hate to do it, but it looks like a step we are going to have to take.

Adult Site Traffic · 06-13-2003, 09:15 AM

Still no word from him or paypal, LOL.

Does anyone know who he is?

Thanks,

AST 121760557

06-12-2003, 09:08 PM	#1
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Who is this? A cheater? Beware sellers.. Who is this person? They ordered traffic to two URL's, had it delivered and then told Paypal it was fraud. James Bell 8740 Villa La Jolla Drive #20 La Jolla, CA 92037 USA [email protected] This was ordered and delivered almost a month ago. I'm sick of this shit. Is there anything I can do to contest it with Paypal, or they can just claim "fraudulent funds" and get their money back? Advice?? ----------------------- We have conducted an investigation regarding a particular payment you received. We have determined that the funds were fraudulent and have completed a reversal of the payment. The funds from the following transaction have been debited from your account. Transaction Date: May 25, 2003 15:42:59 Transaction Amount: $19.00 Buyer's Email: [email protected] If you have questions regarding this reversed transaction you may send an email to [email protected]. Thank you, PayPal Account Review Department ------------------------- It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of potentially fraudulent funds. We have initiated an investigation into this event. In the meantime, we have placed a pending reversal on the funds in question until the investigation is complete. This pending reversal will show as a deduction in your available balance. In the meantime, you are free to continue transacting using your PayPal account. Transaction Date: May 25, 2003 17:20:31 Transaction Amount: $79.00 Payor's Email: [email protected] ------------------------ If you are selling or dealing with this person, maybe you'd want to think twice? Is there anything I can do where paypal is concerned? Thanks, AST 121760557 __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

06-12-2003, 09:17 PM	#3
sarettah see you later, I'm gone Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,115	A cheap lesson... never do business with a yahoo address or any other free email address..... Make em use the one their isp gave them... __________________ All cookies cleared!

06-12-2003, 09:19 PM	#4
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06-12-2003, 09:22 PM	#5
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	This is the site. http://www.pornpiczon.net/banks/banks.htm I wonder if he knows how much shit one could cause another with this info? I mean, if anyone wanted to Not that I EVER would Looks like they gave bogus info to the registrar too... Can't they pull your domain for that? LOL AST __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

06-12-2003, 09:38 PM	#11
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Funny thing is, users are mailed 3 times through the course of delivers. Twice at the very beginning, and again within 1000 hits of the end. He was notified that delivery began, and this is NOT fraud. Here's what I sent paypal in the second e-mail to them, but I dunno if it will help or not.. ---------- >>Dear Liz Wright, >>It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of >>potentially fraudulent funds. This person was e-mailed instantly in both instances, how could they possibly come back after the delivery was complete and claim fraud? Please explain to me why I have no recourse in the matter, or nothing to say, or the possibility to present proof? The traffic was delivered, and that's my money. I earned it. Thank you, Liz Wright ----------------- A new traffic purchase was made. Details below. Name: James Bell Email: [email protected] Hits Purchased: 5000 ------------------- A new traffic purchase was made. Details below. Name: James Bell Email: [email protected] Hits Purchased: 25000 __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

06-12-2003, 09:10 PM	#2
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	that really sucks, not a damn thing you can do

06-12-2003, 09:24 PM	#6
Bobby Fissure Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 380	The guy lives in La Jolla (San Diego's playground for millionaires) and yet he scams you for a few bucks? Odd.

06-12-2003, 09:28 PM	#8
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	that sucks man Didya try contacting his sponsors (cybererotica?)

06-12-2003, 09:30 PM	#9
cash69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chandler, az Posts: 1,052	paypal SUCKS they basically tell you to fucking bad.. suprised he actually got it charged back.. saying it is fraud is the only way.. if you have proof that you delivered what he got.. can try calling paypal but they don't even listen everything you say they will just say sir we cannot do anything sir we cannot do anything.. paypal sucks

06-12-2003, 09:52 PM	#14
daisy diaz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: virginia beach virginia Posts: 288	I'm really sorry wish I could help!

06-13-2003, 09:15 AM	#17
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Still no word from him or paypal, LOL. Does anyone know who he is? Thanks, AST 121760557 __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.