Stupid Question About Toplists - GoFuckYourself.com

UnseenWorld · 06-10-2003, 03:26 PM

I've been looking at toplists and adding sites to toplists lately and have started to wonder how these things work, since it seems (if the toplist stats are to be believed...and if they are not, what a surprise, eh?) that almost everybody on the list gets far more hits from the list than they put in.

I suppose this may be due to some of the traffic being search engine traffic and other nonreciprocal sources. Otherwise, something seems to be amiss.

Anybody got any insight into this? I never really thought about it before.

jact · 06-10-2003, 03:29 PM

One hit comes in, that one person clicks several outlinks, thus giving each person they sent traffic to a click registered.. Of course this is assuming the toplist has at least a 101% productivity.

darnit · 06-10-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by jact
One hit comes in, that one person clicks several outlinks, thus giving each person they sent traffic to a click registered.. Of course this is assuming the toplist has at least a 101% productivity.

Exactly its called productivity. Tgps use the same idea. If surfers click on 3 links when they visit the page then the productivity of the design/site is 300% Some are more productive some are less. Depending on the sophistication of the toplist software they are using however it could be packed full of hitbots - so keep an eye on the productivity (used that word again) of the traffic they send back to you......

SpaceAce · 06-10-2003, 04:48 PM

There are two causes for what you're talking about.

#1: Traffic that comes in from sources not counted by the toplist (typeins, bookmarks, search engines, etc).
#2: Productivity greater than 100%. If a toplist and the sites it links to are relatively clean, most surfers will click more than one link. Therefore, one surfer you send becomes 2, 3 or more clicks out.

SpaceAce

gothweb · 06-10-2003, 04:49 PM

Plus, they can always cook the stats they report publically.

foe · 06-10-2003, 04:57 PM

they all shave

Antonio · 06-10-2003, 05:04 PM

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Plus, they can always cook the stats they report publically.

and they do.....

GeXus · 06-10-2003, 05:15 PM

99% of toplists set the ratio to like 1:3 regardless of hits.. you send in 1.. and boom 3 are showing as out

MrSpeed · 06-10-2003, 06:43 PM

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99% of toplists set the ratio to like 1:3 regardless of hits.. you send in 1.. and boom 3 are showing as out

I belive that. The stats at the toplist never agree with the server logs.

UnseenWorld · 06-10-2003, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by MrSpeed

I belive that. The stats at the toplist never agree with the server logs.

Yeah, I was going to say: I never see nearly as many hits coming in (in my server stats) as the toplist says it sent.

Gator · 06-10-2003, 08:06 PM

It also depends on resets. Maybe the toplist resets every 3 days or something.

AaronM · 06-10-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I've been looking at toplists and adding sites to toplists lately and have started to wonder how these things work, since it seems (if the toplist stats are to be believed...and if they are not, what a surprise, eh?) that almost everybody on the list gets far more hits from the list than they put in.

I suppose this may be due to some of the traffic being search engine traffic and other nonreciprocal sources. Otherwise, something seems to be amiss.

Anybody got any insight into this? I never really thought about it before.

The answer may be in this thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=gossip

Gator · 06-10-2003, 08:30 PM

Didn't see it there.

AaronM · 06-10-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Gator
Didn't see it there.

My bad....Perhaps we should check again....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=gossip

Donny · 06-10-2003, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

The answer may be in this thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=gossip

Aaron...

Ah, never mind. You'll never learn.

AaronM · 06-10-2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

Aaron...

Ah, never mind. You'll never learn.

Repeat after me..."I don't care."

UnseenWorld · 06-11-2003, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Repeat after me..."I don't care."

Okay, "I don't care."

AaronM · 06-11-2003, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Okay, "I don't care."

Funny that you can reply when you are NOT being spoken to but not when I speak directly to you.

Oh, and you do care because you still continue to run your mouth to people I know.

News flash Tom...Nobody around here likes you (except Miko). It all gets back to me.

UnseenWorld · 06-11-2003, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Funny that you can reply when you are NOT being spoken to but not when I speak directly to you.

Oh, and you do care because you still continue to run your mouth to people I know.

News flash Tom...Nobody around here likes you (except Miko). It all gets back to me.

I reply when I feel like it. And whatever you hear, you are sure to repeat. Without checking.

Oh, and YOU are the one who runs his motormouth about other people constantly because you live and die with what other people think about you.

AaronM · 06-11-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

I reply when I feel like it. And whatever you hear, you are sure to repeat. Without checking.

Oh, and YOU are the one who runs his motormouth about other people constantly because you live and die with what other people think about you.

Yeah...Whatever helps you sleep, jackass.

Keep trying to live in your fantasy world...Keep trying to date the majority of your models.....Keep replying to me even though you do not care.

Most people who have been in this industry as long as you, have made a lot of money and have something to show for it...You have nothing but your pics to jerk off to and a single model who respects you. It's pethetic...Really.

You're a joke, and not a very funny one.

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06-10-2003, 03:29 PM	#2
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	One hit comes in, that one person clicks several outlinks, thus giving each person they sent traffic to a click registered.. Of course this is assuming the toplist has at least a 101% productivity. __________________ Free agent

06-10-2003, 04:48 PM	#4
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	There are two causes for what you're talking about. #1: Traffic that comes in from sources not counted by the toplist (typeins, bookmarks, search engines, etc). #2: Productivity greater than 100%. If a toplist and the sites it links to are relatively clean, most surfers will click more than one link. Therefore, one surfer you send becomes 2, 3 or more clicks out. SpaceAce

06-10-2003, 04:57 PM	#6
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	they all shave

06-10-2003, 08:06 PM	#11
Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	It also depends on resets. Maybe the toplist resets every 3 days or something.

06-10-2003, 08:30 PM	#13
Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	Didn't see it there.