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Old 06-10-2003, 05:17 PM   #1
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Who owns this site?

http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine.
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:18 PM   #2
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Damnit! Where's the "<-- You are Here" drama indicator when you need it? Hurry up, juicy!

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Old 06-10-2003, 05:19 PM   #3
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no idea, but if what you say is true then img src them
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:19 PM   #4
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not me... try searching who owns the domain.
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:19 PM   #5
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:21 PM   #6
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its part of cybererotica's programs

not exactly sure who is the actual owner though
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:22 PM   #7
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Let me know what you find. I didn't see the name of the billing company.
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:23 PM   #8
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Seriously? You've never heard of Homegrown? They've been one of the largest amateur porn companies since the 80s I think...starting out with mail-order stuff.

I'm sure Farrell would take any stolen content allegations very seriously. [email protected]
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:41 PM   #9
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:54 PM   #10
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That doesnt sound like something they would do. theyve been around for ever. Try to email them, im sure it there is truely stolen content they would like to know about it as much as anyone....
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Old 06-10-2003, 07:14 PM   #11
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What are you referring to specifically? Please feel free to e-mail me any issues you have and I will help resolve them personally.




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Old 06-10-2003, 07:16 PM   #12
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Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?
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Old 06-10-2003, 07:16 PM   #13
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Shit someone is hooked up with homegrown, that was a fast repsonse.
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This story sounds strange.
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Old 06-10-2003, 07:25 PM   #15
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Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?

What redirects are you getting? Can you e-mail me a screen shot?
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Old 06-10-2003, 09:11 PM   #16
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I was checking my stats and my Referrer list said 7686 hits from http://www.homegrownvideo.com/homegr...egrownhelp.php . We have never exchaned links so what's in your members area thats sending hits to my site?
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Old 06-10-2003, 09:20 PM   #17
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Could be a script faking the referrer...

Dont know whythey would use homegrown as the referer, but programmers screw up all the time .....
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Old 06-10-2003, 09:23 PM   #18
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So you come here with allegations of stolen content based on a referrer line in your stats? You've not seen any content, you've not seen the inside of their site - you're just going on a referrer stat??
Egads - what if there's a message board inside and a member dropped the URL to your site and folks came to take a look? What if a friend of yours is a cam model for them and dropped a link to you and folks came over?

Basing allegations of stolen content and not *knowing* for sure that your content is inside is pretty brazen, to say the least.
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Old 06-10-2003, 10:56 PM   #19
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I was checking my stats and my Referrer list said 7686 hits from http://www.homegrownvideo.com/homegr...egrownhelp.php . We have never exchaned links so what's in your members area thats sending hits to my site?
BadSeed,



Our tech team is trying to ICQ you now to help you understand the source of your traffic. A refer from our site does not constitute stolen content from you.

In the future you may want to at least try to approach a person before calling them out on the boards IMO it is a drastic thing to do and should only be done if all else has failed.
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Old 06-10-2003, 10:57 PM   #20
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http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine.
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Old 06-10-2003, 11:00 PM   #21
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We do not steal. Never have and never will.

We have a reputation that goes back 20 years.

All our producers sign a contract that commits them to verifying their ownership of the copyright and includes all documentation to satisfy 2257 requirements.

We are happy to investigate any claim but ask that you refrain from such baseless accusations.

Before you make false accusations like that, please realize we are your best resource for helping rectify any potential dispute. We run an ethical company and will uphold every virtue of good, fair, and professional conduct.
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Old 06-10-2003, 11:06 PM   #22
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sue him.
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If this is the same homegrownvideo that was founded in San Diego I can personally tell you they are an extremely honest company. I have approached them several times and they have always been very upfront about the documentation

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HomeGrown is straiiight up
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Thanks to everyone for the support and validation.

There is only one true, authentic, historic, epic Homegrown Video and we are it.

We strive for a golden reputation by dint of living by the golden rule.
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Seriously, you just posted, and I quote, "http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine."

How do you know ANY of what you just said? A line in your logs? How is this possible? IF they stole content from you do you really think they would link you?

Chances are you just burned all your bridges with them, they're great guys. And if they indeed did send you 7686 clicks, you can be sure that they will never send one more. Most webmasters I know of are THANKFUL for clicks. You get on the boards and start maliciously slandering them without knowing any of the facts.

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Old 06-11-2003, 12:24 AM   #29
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Maybe I jumped the gun on this one.
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Maybe you jumped the gun?
This would have to be one of the most moronic posts I have seen.


Your signature says you use multiple credit cards to get sales "Im emailing all your sponsors and having all your accounts canceled for fraud. You are a theif and I have proof its in every post you have made.
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Maybe I jumped the gun on this one.

try a little harder. They deserve a way better public apology - and you need to email GFY - and ask them to edit your post - to take out your allegations. for their benefit - and the sake of your future reputation. this makes all parties look bad.

mistakes happen, but you owe them a pretty big apology on this one
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Your signature says you use multiple credit cards to get sales "Im emailing all your sponsors and having all your accounts canceled for fraud. You are a theif and I have proof its in every post you have made.
Are you serious man?
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Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?
Me too.

This came up months ago and I like the fool I am accused HomeGrown of doing it. Is it a re-direct or what?
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shameless spamming..
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Here is the WhoIs

OrgName: INTERCOM ONLINE INC
OrgID: ION2
Address: 55 BROAD STREET,11TH FL
City: NEW YORK
StateProv: NY
PostalCode: 10004
Country: US

NetRange: 66.128.192.0 - 66.128.207.255
CIDR: 66.128.192.0/20
NetName: INTRCOM-BLK-1
NetHandle: NET-66-128-192-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
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NameServer: NS2.INTERCOMONLINE.COM
NameServer: NS3.INTERCOMONLINE.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-06-14
Updated: 2001-06-14

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# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-06-10 21:05
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Not HomeGrown. Shall I will inform APIC and see if it's got any of the members content? Got none of mine.

Someone contact the host.
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dialer dialer dialer dialer dialer
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To all concerned: Thank you for the mountain of compliments; our gratitude is all encompassing as a blue sky.

Badseed: No worries. In fact I am grateful for you helping us find an interesting anomaly that will have to be addressed with our marketing partner, CE.

Next time do take heed from your lesson here. Take it up privately before you hit the boards.

We could have saved you from a few of these "checks on the boards" being so bruising...
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This is what I get off that url



Not Homegrown.
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What you did badseed,
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All our international traffic right now is going to dialers.

Sorry. I am not ectstatic about that either.

Charley... we did mention this before to you I believe.
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Charley: Thanks for posting that. It is not Homegrown Video and I am sorry that you cannot see what we really are about.... unless of course you want to lease our streams or something... lol... I would have to be a fool not to grease some spam here at some point...if i didn't they would send me back to the Jonathon Silverstein School of Marketing...
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if i look up our stats i see nuffin but domains we do not redirect or link to, esp the end of the list, a couple of 1000 hits to a domain or members dir ive never seen before. Asked some ppl one time and they all said : fake reproc links for tgp scripts or something like that. Not gonna be bothered by those couple of 1000 hits...

BTW dont be ashamed, i wrote a lotta emails too in the early days to those ppl and they all went like i dont even know you...
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Charley: Thanks for posting that. It is not Homegrown Video and I am sorry that you cannot see what we really are about.... unless of course you want to lease our streams or something... lol... I would have to be a fool not to grease some spam here at some point...if i didn't they would send me back to the Jonathon Silverstein School of Marketing...
No problems, but you could be losing a lot of trafic to these guys.

Can you go after the server/host?

I could just report them to APIC to see if they have any of the members content, usually an email from them gets the desired result.

We can all learn a lot from the J$tyle$ School of Marketing. Here's one thing I learnt recently from him $35 less 95% = $1.75
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Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?
me too ...
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Treating UK as "international" doesn't seem like a good idea to me, if that means sending it to dialers. UK traffic is nice.
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Gothweb: Couldn't agree with you more...

Charley: You are right... but the traffic issue is something we will have to take up with CE.
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Old 06-11-2003, 10:34 AM   #50
MikeB
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Far-L,

Our Follow Me Free and Pay It Forward programs have a dialer bypass linking option which allows webmasters to turn off the dialer redirect.

We are going to add this linking option to HomeGrownFree as well. It will be updated in the Tools & HTML section shortly. I've talked to Spike and sent him the linking code to use so that type in traffic for HomeGrownVideo.com can bypass the dialer redirect system.


Have a great day,

Mike B

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