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badseed · 06-10-2003, 05:17 PM

http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine.

SpaceAce · 06-10-2003, 05:18 PM

Damnit! Where's the "<-- You are Here" drama indicator when you need it? Hurry up, juicy!

SpaceAce

foe · 06-10-2003, 05:19 PM

no idea, but if what you say is true then img src them

loverboy · 06-10-2003, 05:19 PM

not me... try searching who owns the domain.

gothweb · 06-10-2003, 05:19 PM

Popup hell.

playa · 06-10-2003, 05:21 PM

its part of cybererotica's programs

not exactly sure who is the actual owner though

badseed · 06-10-2003, 05:22 PM

Let me know what you find. I didn't see the name of the billing company.

KCat · 06-10-2003, 05:23 PM

Seriously? You've never heard of Homegrown? They've been one of the largest amateur porn companies since the 80s I think...starting out with mail-order stuff.

I'm sure Farrell would take any stolen content allegations very seriously. [email protected]

Joe_Blow · 06-10-2003, 05:41 PM

darnit · 06-10-2003, 05:54 PM

That doesnt sound like something they would do. theyve been around for ever. Try to email them, im sure it there is truely stolen content they would like to know about it as much as anyone....

homegrownSpike · 06-10-2003, 07:14 PM

badseed

What are you referring to specifically? Please feel free to e-mail me any issues you have and I will help resolve them personally.

[email protected]

gothweb · 06-10-2003, 07:16 PM

Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?

freeadultcontent · 06-10-2003, 07:16 PM

Shit someone is hooked up with homegrown, that was a fast repsonse.

Mr.Fiction · 06-10-2003, 07:22 PM

This story sounds strange.

homegrownSpike · 06-10-2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?

What redirects are you getting? Can you e-mail me a screen shot?

badseed · 06-10-2003, 09:11 PM

I was checking my stats and my Referrer list said 7686 hits from http://www.homegrownvideo.com/homegr...egrownhelp.php . We have never exchaned links so what's in your members area thats sending hits to my site?

sarettah · 06-10-2003, 09:20 PM

Could be a script faking the referrer...

Dont know whythey would use homegrown as the referer, but programmers screw up all the time .....

Carrie · 06-10-2003, 09:23 PM

So you come here with allegations of stolen content based on a referrer line in your stats? You've not seen any content, you've not seen the inside of their site - you're just going on a referrer stat??
Egads - what if there's a message board inside and a member dropped the URL to your site and folks came to take a look? What if a friend of yours is a cam model for them and dropped a link to you and folks came over?

Basing allegations of stolen content and not *knowing* for sure that your content is inside is pretty brazen, to say the least.

homegrownSpike · 06-10-2003, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badseed
I was checking my stats and my Referrer list said 7686 hits from http://www.homegrownvideo.com/homegr...egrownhelp.php . We have never exchaned links so what's in your members area thats sending hits to my site?

BadSeed,

Our tech team is trying to ICQ you now to help you understand the source of your traffic. A refer from our site does not constitute stolen content from you.

In the future you may want to at least try to approach a person before calling them out on the boards IMO it is a drastic thing to do and should only be done if all else has failed.

Reak · 06-10-2003, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badseed
http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine.

\

Thats a fucking Dailer

Far-L · 06-10-2003, 11:00 PM

We do not steal. Never have and never will.

We have a reputation that goes back 20 years.

All our producers sign a contract that commits them to verifying their ownership of the copyright and includes all documentation to satisfy 2257 requirements.

We are happy to investigate any claim but ask that you refrain from such baseless accusations.

Before you make false accusations like that, please realize we are your best resource for helping rectify any potential dispute. We run an ethical company and will uphold every virtue of good, fair, and professional conduct.

psyko514 · 06-10-2003, 11:06 PM

sue him.
he's hurting your good name.

thepornoguy · 06-10-2003, 11:08 PM

If this is the same homegrownvideo that was founded in San Diego I can personally tell you they are an extremely honest company. I have approached them several times and they have always been very upfront about the documentation

tpg

MattO · 06-10-2003, 11:20 PM

HomeGrown is straiiight up

Far-L · 06-10-2003, 11:23 PM

Thanks to everyone for the support and validation.

There is only one true, authentic, historic, epic Homegrown Video and we are it.

We strive for a golden reputation by dint of living by the golden rule.

VirtuMike · 06-10-2003, 11:41 PM

Seriously, you just posted, and I quote, "http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine."

How do you know ANY of what you just said? A line in your logs? How is this possible? IF they stole content from you do you really think they would link you?

Chances are you just burned all your bridges with them, they're great guys. And if they indeed did send you 7686 clicks, you can be sure that they will never send one more. Most webmasters I know of are THANKFUL for clicks. You get on the boards and start maliciously slandering them without knowing any of the facts.

Professionalism, people!

LiveDose · 06-11-2003, 12:02 AM

time for a new nick bro.

Mutt · 06-11-2003, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiveDose
time for a new nick bro.

badseed · 06-11-2003, 12:24 AM

Maybe I jumped the gun on this one.

psyko514 · 06-11-2003, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badseed
Maybe I jumped the gun on this one.

Maybe?

BaldBastard · 06-11-2003, 12:32 AM

Maybe you jumped the gun?
This would have to be one of the most moronic posts I have seen.

Your signature says you use multiple credit cards to get sales "Im emailing all your sponsors and having all your accounts canceled for fraud. You are a theif and I have proof its in every post you have made.

quiet · 06-11-2003, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badseed
Maybe I jumped the gun on this one.

ahahaa

BrettJ · 06-11-2003, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badseed
Maybe I jumped the gun on this one.

try a little harder. They deserve a way better public apology - and you need to email GFY - and ask them to edit your post - to take out your allegations. for their benefit - and the sake of your future reputation. this makes all parties look bad.

mistakes happen, but you owe them a pretty big apology on this one

donnie · 06-11-2003, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBaldBastard

Your signature says you use multiple credit cards to get sales "Im emailing all your sponsors and having all your accounts canceled for fraud. You are a theif and I have proof its in every post you have made.

Are you serious man?

Paul Markham · 06-11-2003, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?

Me too.

This came up months ago and I like the fool I am accused HomeGrown of doing it. Is it a re-direct or what?

chupacabra · 06-11-2003, 12:52 AM

shameless spamming..

Paul Markham · 06-11-2003, 12:53 AM

Here is the WhoIs

OrgName: INTERCOM ONLINE INC
OrgID: ION2
Address: 55 BROAD STREET,11TH FL
City: NEW YORK
StateProv: NY
PostalCode: 10004
Country: US

NetRange: 66.128.192.0 - 66.128.207.255
CIDR: 66.128.192.0/20
NetName: INTRCOM-BLK-1
NetHandle: NET-66-128-192-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.INTERCOMONLINE.COM
NameServer: NS2.INTERCOMONLINE.COM
NameServer: NS3.INTERCOMONLINE.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-06-14
Updated: 2001-06-14

TechHandle: NOC228-ORG-ARIN
TechName: Intercom Online Inc
TechPhone: +1-212-378-2202
TechEmail: [email protected]

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-06-10 21:05
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Not HomeGrown. Shall I will inform APIC and see if it's got any of the members content? Got none of mine.

Someone contact the host.

Calvinguy · 06-11-2003, 01:02 AM

dialer

Far-L · 06-11-2003, 01:02 AM

To all concerned: Thank you for the mountain of compliments; our gratitude is all encompassing as a blue sky.

Badseed: No worries. In fact I am grateful for you helping us find an interesting anomaly that will have to be addressed with our marketing partner, CE.

Next time do take heed from your lesson here. Take it up privately before you hit the boards.

We could have saved you from a few of these "checks on the boards" being so bruising...

Paul Markham · 06-11-2003, 01:02 AM

This is what I get off that url

Not Homegrown.

graphicdude · 06-11-2003, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiveDose
time for a new nick bro.

What you did badseed,
was almost as bad as pointing a huge finger of blame at an adult.com site

Far-L · 06-11-2003, 01:05 AM

All our international traffic right now is going to dialers.

Sorry. I am not ectstatic about that either.

Charley... we did mention this before to you I believe.

Far-L · 06-11-2003, 01:11 AM

Charley: Thanks for posting that. It is not Homegrown Video and I am sorry that you cannot see what we really are about.... unless of course you want to lease our streams or something... lol... I would have to be a fool not to grease some spam here at some point...if i didn't they would send me back to the Jonathon Silverstein School of Marketing...

DutchTeenCash · 06-11-2003, 01:29 AM

if i look up our stats i see nuffin but domains we do not redirect or link to, esp the end of the list, a couple of 1000 hits to a domain or members dir ive never seen before. Asked some ppl one time and they all said : fake reproc links for tgp scripts or something like that. Not gonna be bothered by those couple of 1000 hits...

BTW dont be ashamed, i wrote a lotta emails too in the early days to those ppl and they all went like i dont even know you...

Paul Markham · 06-11-2003, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
Charley: Thanks for posting that. It is not Homegrown Video and I am sorry that you cannot see what we really are about.... unless of course you want to lease our streams or something... lol... I would have to be a fool not to grease some spam here at some point...if i didn't they would send me back to the Jonathon Silverstein School of Marketing...

No problems, but you could be losing a lot of trafic to these guys.

Can you go after the server/host?

I could just report them to APIC to see if they have any of the members content, usually an email from them gets the desired result.

We can all learn a lot from the J$tyle$ School of Marketing. Here's one thing I learnt recently from him $35 less 95% = $1.75

funkmaster · 06-11-2003, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Why do I get weird redirects when I go to http://www.homegrownvideo.com ?

me too ...

quiet · 06-11-2003, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
All our international traffic right now is going to dialers.

uh, their international traffic goes to dialers.

gothweb · 06-11-2003, 07:27 AM

Treating UK as "international" doesn't seem like a good idea to me, if that means sending it to dialers. UK traffic is nice.

Far-L · 06-11-2003, 07:51 AM

Gothweb: Couldn't agree with you more...

Charley: You are right... but the traffic issue is something we will have to take up with CE.

MikeB · 06-11-2003, 10:34 AM

Far-L,

Our Follow Me Free and Pay It Forward programs have a dialer bypass linking option which allows webmasters to turn off the dialer redirect.

We are going to add this linking option to HomeGrownFree as well. It will be updated in the Tools & HTML section shortly. I've talked to Spike and sent him the linking code to use so that type in traffic for HomeGrownVideo.com can bypass the dialer redirect system.

Have a great day,

Mike B

06-10-2003, 05:17 PM	#1
badseed Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 213	Who owns this site? http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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06-10-2003, 05:22 PM	#7
badseed Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 213	Let me know what you find. I didn't see the name of the billing company. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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06-10-2003, 07:16 PM	#12
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06-10-2003, 05:18 PM	#2
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	Damnit! Where's the "<-- You are Here" drama indicator when you need it? Hurry up, juicy! SpaceAce

06-10-2003, 05:19 PM	#3
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	no idea, but if what you say is true then img src them

06-10-2003, 05:19 PM	#4
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	not me... try searching who owns the domain.

06-10-2003, 05:21 PM	#6
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	its part of cybererotica's programs not exactly sure who is the actual owner though

06-10-2003, 05:23 PM	#8
KCat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PNW Posts: 2,204	Seriously? You've never heard of Homegrown? They've been one of the largest amateur porn companies since the 80s I think...starting out with mail-order stuff. I'm sure Farrell would take any stolen content allegations very seriously. [email protected]

06-10-2003, 05:54 PM	#10
darnit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teh Interweb Posts: 2,439	That doesnt sound like something they would do. theyve been around for ever. Try to email them, im sure it there is truely stolen content they would like to know about it as much as anyone....

06-10-2003, 07:14 PM	#11
homegrownSpike Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 30	badseed What are you referring to specifically? Please feel free to e-mail me any issues you have and I will help resolve them personally. [email protected]

06-10-2003, 07:16 PM	#13
freeadultcontent Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: "evitcepsrep ruoy egnahc" Posts: 9,976	Shit someone is hooked up with homegrown, that was a fast repsonse. __________________ Exclusive Ethnic & Microniche Sites

06-10-2003, 07:22 PM	#14
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	This story sounds strange.

06-10-2003, 09:11 PM	#16
badseed Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 213	I was checking my stats and my Referrer list said 7686 hits from http://www.homegrownvideo.com/homegr...egrownhelp.php . We have never exchaned links so what's in your members area thats sending hits to my site? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-10-2003, 09:20 PM	#17
sarettah see you later, I'm gone Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,110	Could be a script faking the referrer... Dont know whythey would use homegrown as the referer, but programmers screw up all the time ..... __________________ All cookies cleared!

06-10-2003, 09:23 PM	#18
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	So you come here with allegations of stolen content based on a referrer line in your stats? You've not seen any content, you've not seen the inside of their site - you're just going on a referrer stat?? Egads - what if there's a message board inside and a member dropped the URL to your site and folks came to take a look? What if a friend of yours is a cam model for them and dropped a link to you and folks came over? Basing allegations of stolen content and not knowing for sure that your content is inside is pretty brazen, to say the least.

06-10-2003, 11:00 PM	#21
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	We do not steal. Never have and never will. We have a reputation that goes back 20 years. All our producers sign a contract that commits them to verifying their ownership of the copyright and includes all documentation to satisfy 2257 requirements. We are happy to investigate any claim but ask that you refrain from such baseless accusations. Before you make false accusations like that, please realize we are your best resource for helping rectify any potential dispute. We run an ethical company and will uphold every virtue of good, fair, and professional conduct. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

06-10-2003, 11:06 PM	#22
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06-10-2003, 11:08 PM	#23
thepornoguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Online Posts: 163	If this is the same homegrownvideo that was founded in San Diego I can personally tell you they are an extremely honest company. I have approached them several times and they have always been very upfront about the documentation tpg __________________ John 'TPG' Smith Poonhound FREE CASH iKobo The new paypal for adult webmasters Hosted exclusively by <a href=http://69adulthost.com>http://69adulthost.com</a>

06-10-2003, 11:20 PM	#24
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	HomeGrown is straiiight up

06-10-2003, 11:23 PM	#25
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Thanks to everyone for the support and validation. There is only one true, authentic, historic, epic Homegrown Video and we are it. We strive for a golden reputation by dint of living by the golden rule. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

06-10-2003, 11:41 PM	#26
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Seriously, you just posted, and I quote, "http://homegrownvideo.com they have the most stolen content in there includeing mine." How do you know ANY of what you just said? A line in your logs? How is this possible? IF they stole content from you do you really think they would link you? Chances are you just burned all your bridges with them, they're great guys. And if they indeed did send you 7686 clicks, you can be sure that they will never send one more. Most webmasters I know of are THANKFUL for clicks. You get on the boards and start maliciously slandering them without knowing any of the facts. Professionalism, people! __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

06-11-2003, 12:02 AM	#27
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	time for a new nick bro. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

06-11-2003, 12:24 AM	#29
badseed Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 213	Maybe I jumped the gun on this one. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-11-2003, 12:32 AM	#31
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 16,170	Maybe you jumped the gun? This would have to be one of the most moronic posts I have seen. Your signature says you use multiple credit cards to get sales "Im emailing all your sponsors and having all your accounts canceled for fraud. You are a theif and I have proof its in every post you have made.

06-11-2003, 12:52 AM	#36
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	shameless spamming..

06-11-2003, 12:53 AM	#37
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Here is the WhoIs OrgName: INTERCOM ONLINE INC OrgID: ION2 Address: 55 BROAD STREET,11TH FL City: NEW YORK StateProv: NY PostalCode: 10004 Country: US NetRange: 66.128.192.0 - 66.128.207.255 CIDR: 66.128.192.0/20 NetName: INTRCOM-BLK-1 NetHandle: NET-66-128-192-0-1 Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.INTERCOMONLINE.COM NameServer: NS2.INTERCOMONLINE.COM NameServer: NS3.INTERCOMONLINE.COM Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 2001-06-14 Updated: 2001-06-14 TechHandle: NOC228-ORG-ARIN TechName: Intercom Online Inc TechPhone: +1-212-378-2202 TechEmail: [email protected] # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-06-10 21:05 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. Not HomeGrown. Shall I will inform APIC and see if it's got any of the members content? Got none of mine. Someone contact the host. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-11-2003, 01:02 AM	#38
Calvinguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,752	dialer dialer dialer dialer dialer

06-11-2003, 01:02 AM	#40
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This is what I get off that url Not Homegrown. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-11-2003, 01:05 AM	#42
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	All our international traffic right now is going to dialers. Sorry. I am not ectstatic about that either. Charley... we did mention this before to you I believe. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

06-11-2003, 01:11 AM	#43
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Charley: Thanks for posting that. It is not Homegrown Video and I am sorry that you cannot see what we really are about.... unless of course you want to lease our streams or something... lol... I would have to be a fool not to grease some spam here at some point...if i didn't they would send me back to the Jonathon Silverstein School of Marketing... __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

06-11-2003, 01:29 AM	#44
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	if i look up our stats i see nuffin but domains we do not redirect or link to, esp the end of the list, a couple of 1000 hits to a domain or members dir ive never seen before. Asked some ppl one time and they all said : fake reproc links for tgp scripts or something like that. Not gonna be bothered by those couple of 1000 hits... BTW dont be ashamed, i wrote a lotta emails too in the early days to those ppl and they all went like i dont even know you... __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

06-11-2003, 07:27 AM	#48
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Treating UK as "international" doesn't seem like a good idea to me, if that means sending it to dialers. UK traffic is nice. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

06-11-2003, 07:51 AM	#49
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Gothweb: Couldn't agree with you more... Charley: You are right... but the traffic issue is something we will have to take up with CE. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."