Jon

I'm so sick of watching the news, reading on boards, or just hearing stupid shit come out of people's faces about how Israel is at fault for "killing innocent Palestinian civilians". Why don't people concentrate on Arab warfare tactics?

Well let's see, how do the arabs fight...
I know!
- When you hear about a kid dying from a soldier shooting a rubber bullet at his head, do you know why he was shot? Because Arabs are such dirty fighters that they gear up the kids to go out, pick up stones, and chuck them directly at the soldiers. So what are the Israelis supposed to do? Sit around with a thumb up their ass and pretend nothing is happening? No. They fire the rubber bullets to scare them away, and sometimes people die, whether it be Israeli soldiers (which they almost never report) or some Arab kid who would've grown up to a whole age of 20 years old and gone off to work for Hamas anyhow (but they always leave that part out, because the media wants you to feel bad for these oh so innocent arabs).
- Another lovely arab fighting tactic was actually portayed in a movie called "Rules of Engagement", where they had Arab women, unarmed, holding babies, standing right fucking beside a sniper. Chances are, when something flies towards that sniper, the woman and child will be killed, but it's okay to them, because they convince the lady that she's doing a service for allah, and they also know that a report will go out that an unarmed civilian woman and child were killed by the Israelis.
- Then there's the good 'ol suicide bombing tactic. Convincing mostly teenage girls and boys to blow themselves up in some crowded ISRAELI CIVILIAN area. You only hear about this oh say, every week or every two weeks. If that shit happened here, something tells me people wouldn't treat it as lightly as they do. Israeli police and soliders actually stop almost 100 attacks every week on civilians. It's fucking nuts.

First off, since day 1 of Israel's existence they have been at war with the surrounding arab countries. Mind you, this was right after the Holocaust where over 6 Million Jews were murdered, so the remaining majority of eastern european jews went out to live in israel in PEACE. They didn't go there to start up any fights, the land they were given was a small sandy piece of shit, but they didn't complain, they just wanted to live in peace. So what happens, the arab nations decide, fuck them, we're taking over. So again, the Arabs are at fault for starting up, true they got their asses kicked, but what do you think happened to all of those arabs that were fighting for them, thinking they were going to kill all the jews and ended up losing? Why didn't their "arab brothers" taken them into their countries? Because they knew that all they needed was a few generations of angry arabs living in a camp to stir up the hornet's nest many years later, and that's exactly what happened.

The thing that pissed me off the most, was after Sept 11th, that people were actually blaming the terrorist attacks on the Jews, when we all know the actual terrorists were fucking arabs. I just don't get it, what more do people want? Do they want to see another jewish holocaust? Are jews so bad? Why do people hate jews so much, when there are so many other religions out there that differ from their own? Do you see jews carrying out terrorist attacks, or declaring war on countries that don't do shit to them? No. Here it is, the year 2003, and anti-semitism is at an all time high since the Holocaust, what the fuck is going on here?!?!?!!?

Venting is now complete. Enjoy the thread & have a nice day!

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Don't gt me started !

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MrPopup

perspective distorts everything.

the world is fucked. period.

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Great post

Gutterboy

If you think shooting a kid in the head with a rubber bullet is an appropriate punishment for throwing rocks, feel free to send your ugly little bastards over to my house.

We'll see how appropriate it is when I put a dent in your kids skull with a beanbag load from my 20 gauge.

Mr.Fiction

Both sides use propaganda, both sides commit horrible crimes, both sides kill innocent people, and neither side is willing to admit they are wrong, ever.

If you can't see that both sides in this dispute are guilty, it's only because you choose not to.

dirtyone

Rule number 1 don't throw rocks at soldiers with guns.

Rule number 2 if you throw rocks at soldiers with guns see rule number 1.


or


Never bring a rock to a gun fight.

russian_agent_69

What a moronic statement.

Jon

It's not right, but they are desperate to stop these outbreaks of violence, hence the reason they invented the rubber bullets. Sometimes a kid gets shot in the head and dies, this is true, but sometimes a soldier gets hit with a rock and dies too, but that seems to be okay.. If you were the solider and kids threw stones at you everyday, I'm sure you'd take that shotgun and shoot them up, rubber bullets or not.

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Gutterboy

Ahh, the good old days.

MrPopup

Rule 3: There will never be peace in the middle east.

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Jon

Gutter, so what you're really saying is that when people shut you up for something retarded, and you have nothing better to say to back up your statement, you post of a picture of a Jew surrounded by Nazis getting his hair chopped off during the Holocaust..

Real mature asshole.

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donnie

You fucking stinking, cave dweling backward motherfucking jew! This is why whole world hates you! On the names of thousends innocent murdered children in Palestina I pray you spend eternity roasting in hell together with sharon, bush and rest of the murderers!

Jon

Thousands huh?

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Gutterboy

Why wait on hell?

donnie

Yes THOUSANDS you fucking jew! Now go and fuck you mother you fucking inbred!

Jon

You're off by a lot. Why do you really hate jews though? It was cute to see you add Bush into your first comment, are you really confused and think Bush is a jew too? Do you only hate jews because of what you see on CNN or the BBC?

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Gutterboy, you're really a sick kid. I hope to meet you at a tradeshow sometime soon.

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jayeff

What's great about it? That it contains so many factual errors and omissions?

The mainstream US media covers 80% of the incidents in which there are Israeli deaths, but less than 20% of those in which there are only Arab casualties. Unbalanced reporting, yes, but not slanted in the direction the poster suggests.

That the admirably restrained actions NCDTV describes on the part of the Israelis still somehow result in approximately 3 times as many Palestinian deaths.

That he doesn't know his history? The Balfour Declaration of 1917, proposing that a Jewish Homeland be established in Palestine, was the start of large-scale Jewish immigration and also the start of constant terrorist activity by BOTH sides. That went on for 30 years before the United Nations finally decided to split Palestine in two, making a state for the Jews and a state for the Palestinians.

The UN solution was swept aside when Israel independently declared the State of Israel. In the brief war that followed, 50% of the Palestinian population was either killed, driven out, or fled, leaving Israel in control of 80% of Palestine. The promised Palestinian State was never established.

Israel was my home for 10 years. I married an Israeli. I used to write regularly for several of the national daily newspapers. In Israel itself you would never, ever, read such a biased and uninformed piece of writing.

extreme

It's hard to see how the palestinians would be wrong by any extent of the word since they are the ones who have Apache choppers flying over their cities killing people each day.

The task of solving the mess falls on the most advanced civilisation. Or it falls one the Israeli to declare a formal war and kill of all Palestinians. State terrorism is just as bad as terrorism, those who don't know about that word better read about it.

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I hate jews because they killed half of my family! Bush is not a jew but he is their fucking bitch and a murderer. You are really pising me off you fucking yew! Go and fuck your mother while you still can

Gutterboy

Here is some advice, keyboard warrior...

If you do see me at a trade show, your best bet is to shoot me in the head from behind. If you identify yourself, puss out at the last minute, or miss the first time, you're going to find out how far Keyboard Kourage gets you with me.. and its a safe bet you won't enjoy it.

quiet

donnie

Jon

Keyboard Kourage for life!

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Whats funny is that at the trade shows alot of Security there. They will go in beat both your asses for starting shit! Vegas security dont fuck around they will lay the beat down heavily.

LOL!

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PornoDoggy

What he said.

Jon

I wasn't going to fight him, just he thinks that. I know that in person most of these racist assholes pull the whole "I was joking around, calm down". Plus all he knows how to do is post nazi pics, in person, where it counts he wouldn't do anything or have shit to say back.

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Shoplifter

And what lesson did they learn from this?

That might is right.

How on earth can they expect to live in peace in someone elses country?

It's a funny thing... I met a guy here who's family was thrown off their land by the Jews. They have the deeds and records going back a century. Does anyone care about this? No.

But if the tables are turned and it's a matter of Jewish bank accounts in Switzerland the media is lined up around the block to cover it.

Might is right baby.

dav555add

Jesus was born in the Kingdom of Israel, which was governed by King Herod, which was under Roman Occupation.
This is written in the Bible which happens to be a book followed by 2.5 billions people.
2003 years ago, there was no such thing as an Arab or Palestinian.
Palestine is an invention of the British empire.
Trans Jordan, known today as Jordan, is the true Palestine.
90% of people living in Jordan are Palestinian.
Jordan is ruled by the descandant of a Saudi Mufti, placed there as a deal between the brits and the Saudis (Yes, already oil deals almost 80 years ago).
For over 3500 years, Israel has had a Jewish majority, and for most of that time, except during violent occupation, it has been governed by a Jewish ruler.
No, you tell me how Israel is not a Jewish country?

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Ironhorse

Why is everyone neglecting to mention these soldiers are occupying the Palestinian's lands as per UN resolutions, at the time they are being harrassed by stone throwers?

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volante

Several billion people used to believe the world was flat.

Gutterboy

Baaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha. Pick up a history book, dipshit.

Before 1948 Israel hadn't been ruled by jews in close to 2000 years.

dav555add

Shut your cock hole and pick up a book, there's more to life than tranny porn

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dav555add

Hummmm, considering that most people on earth have known that the earth isn't flat since the early 1800's and considering that the world population at that time was just under 1 billion and considering that before the 1800's most poeple did not give a shit if the earth was flat, round or shaped like your mamma's ass; i would say that your argument is flawed.
The Bible happens to be followed (at various degrees of course) by about 2.5 billions people today

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Ironhorse

I think the point was being made that just because a whole bunch of people follow a book, does not make it right or accurate - this one in particular has some sketchy history to it.

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volante

Thank you for proving that you completely failed to get the point.

Let's look at it in another way - 3.5 billion don't.

Although personally, I blame LikeWhoa.

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Gotta love how a post like this gets every1 fired up, once a week!

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UnseenWorld

Are we sure that striking a kid in the head was intentional (e.g., was it done at close range)?

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Gutterboy

Awwww.. do the facts annoy you?

Here is the history of Palestine, or what you like to call Israel.

3rd Millenium BCE - Cannanites, not the jews, were the first known inhabitants.

2nd Millenium BCE - Palestine was constantly being invaded by various groups like the amorites, hittites, and hurrians. These invaders were defeated by the Egyptians and eventually absorbed into Canaanites culture.

14th century BCE - Egyptian power weakens, and the Hebrews, a group of Semitic tribes from Mesopotamia, and the Philistines (after whom the country was later named), attempted to invade the land.

1125 BCE - A confederation of Hebrew tribes finally defeats the Canaanites but found the struggle with the Philistines more difficult . Philistines had established an independent state on the southern coast of Palestine and controlled the Canaanite town of Jerusalem.

(violent occupation you say? haha)

1050 BCE - Philistines kick jewish ass using their advanced iron weaponry.

1000 BCE - David finally defeats the Philistines. The unity of Israel and the feebleness of adjacent empires enabled David to establish a large independent state, with its capital at Jerusalem.

Finally, the jews have their own land, well.. the land they invaded anyway.

722 BCE - oops, spoke too soon. Israel gets its ass kicked again, this time by the Assyrians.

586 BCE - Conquered again by Babylonia

539 BCE - Conquered yet again, this time by Cyrus of Persia.

333 BCE - Conquered once more by Alexander the Great.

141 BCE - Jews finally revolt and set up an independent state. Ah, free at last!

132-35 BC - oops, spoke too soon again. Jewish uprising quashed, many jews killed, the rest sold into slavery, and Israel renamed Syria Palestinia.

63 BCE - Jerusalem conquered by Rome.

638 AD - The arabs take over.

1517 AD - The Ottomans take over.

1897 - The jews get together in Switzerland to consider how to go about getting back some of "their" (snicker) land.

Pathetic.

UnseenWorld

True, because neither side is willing to put the past behind them and make a new start.

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