Serious question, now; If sales drop when a site is overexposed, - GoFuckYourself.com

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:25 AM

Why is it that we usually see the top 5-10 slots of the hun filled with galleries pushing the same sponsors?

I swear I've seen Captain Stabbin galleries up there more times than I can count.

And quiet, on the real, man, the word is that you do not fuck with affiliates, instead, you just make your own galls and pay for top spots on sites. If this is accurate, then maybe you could help answer these questions.

What is done to keep surfers interested, if they've turned a site down before, or were members once before, and want something new?

If it's true that overexposed sites sell badly as time goes by, how is it justifiable to keep them prominent on high-traffic sites?

AaronM · 06-02-2003, 01:26 AM

A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:28 AM

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A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.

Ok, i anticipated this response, so I had a third question to go along with that.

If this is the case, and you can count on newbies to the net & porn to not be overexposed by your shit, is'nt it a huge snag when high volume sites like the hun don't advertise anywhere?

Machete_ · 06-02-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.

what he said :-)

...and manboobs retain

AaronM · 06-02-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Ok, i anticipated this response, so I had a third question to go along with that.

If this is the case, and you can count on newbies to the net & porn to not be overexposed by your shit, is'nt it a huge snag when high volume sites like the hun don't advertise anywhere?

The Huns philosophy.....

If you build it...They will come.

Rings pretty true in this case, dontcha think?

Machete_ · 06-02-2003, 01:31 AM

the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of thegalleries are free placements.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:32 AM

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The Huns philosophy.....

If you build it...They will come.

Rings pretty true in this case, dontcha think?

Yeah, so basically, the shitload of recips out there.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:35 AM

But....if there's enough newbies to porn on a daily basis to justify paying for placements:

Then theoretically, a site's sales should never drop.....

I mean, bangbus for instance....why would their sales drop?

Or is it

New Surfers + Old Surfers = Hella Conversions

then some time passes and it's:

New Surfers - No Old Surfers + Old Surfers Revisiting = Steady Conversions for higher profile submitters and slot-holders

MetaMan · 06-02-2003, 01:37 AM

just dont promote oversaturated programs,
basically if u dont have millions and millions only open partnered access on ur affiliates so ur shit dont get posted everywhere.

let the newbs screw round with the bigger programs content who r already worthless.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:48 AM

Thanks Aaron & Meta.

It's surprising how many people are so afraid or unwilling [quiet]to talk about these kind of things.

I think if the survival of profit from online porn for more than 5 years, despite it's growing level of difficulty has taught us anything, it's that there's enough money out there for everybody.

AaronM · 06-02-2003, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid

I think if the survival of profit from online porn for more than 5 years, despite it's growing level of difficulty has taught us anything, it's that there's enough money out there for everybody.

So...Send me a fucking check then.

quiet · 06-02-2003, 01:51 AM

fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:54 AM

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fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. eat shit.

??? Did you even read what I posted? That's what I was saying.

Even if you don't run an affiliate program, how do you steadily maintain profit over a long period of time when you reuse the same methods that have proved to affect sales of other sites.

Don't get so defensive, man.

AaronM · 06-02-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

I still wuv ya!

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:55 AM

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So...Send me a fucking check then.

Take paypal?

quiet · 06-02-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
??? Did you even read what I posted? That's what I was saying.

Even if you don't run an affiliate program, how do you steadily maintain profit over a long period of time when you reuse the same methods that have proved to affect sales of other sites.

Don't get so defensive, man.

t's surprising how many people are so afraid or unwilling [quiet]to talk about these kind of things

AaronM · 06-02-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
??? Did you even read what I posted? That's what I was saying.

Even if you don't run an affiliate program, how do you steadily maintain profit over a long period of time when you reuse the same methods that have proved to affect sales of other sites.

Don't get so defensive, man.

May I suggest that you back off now?

Let this one go.

psyko514 · 06-02-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 01:57 AM

And tell me, how exactly do you take offense to me speculating why you would not respond to a post that was partially pointed at you?

Mutt · 06-02-2003, 02:00 AM

why would quiet or anybody else give you information they've worked to figure out?

people in this industry are pretty helpful but you are way too presumptuous. GFY isn't Tom's Newbie Booster.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:00 AM

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May I suggest that you back off now?

Back off? I'm sorry, but I really don't see any belligerence on my part when I'm simply asking a question.

Quiet, if you see this as offensive, then I really don't know what to tell you.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:00 AM

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you are way too presumptuous

Yeah, I guess so.

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
And tell me, how exactly do you take offense to me speculating why you would not respond to a post that was partially pointed at you?

so now you *were* talking about me.

when does your shift start? simple!

cocksuckers are what make gfy fun. fuck you.

psyko514 · 06-02-2003, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

so now you *were* talking about me.

when does your shift start? simple!

cocksuckers are what make gfy fun. fuck you.

are you saying you're a cocksucker?

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514

are you saying you're a cocksucker?

are you saying you don't actually work in adult?

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:10 AM

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so now you *were* talking about me.

when does your shift start? simple!

cocksuckers are what make gfy fun. fuck you.

No, quiet, fuck you and your arrogant ass.

Yeah, I was pointing a question at you. Big fucking deal.

People say my buttons are easy to push, yet you're the one who reacts with disgust and anger because I speculate the reasons you will not respond.

It pisses you off that I want to know you're opinion, but at the same time it boosts your ego because I do so?

Are you so obsessed with your online persona that you worry about being cool so much that you get mad at something like this?

Fucking rediculous.

Grow up.

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
No, quiet, fuck you and your arrogant ass.

Yeah, I was pointing a question at you. Big fucking deal.

People say my buttons are easy to push, yet you're the one who reacts with disgust and anger because I speculate the reasons you will not respond.

It pisses you off that I want to know you're opinion, but at the same time it boosts your ego because I do so?

Are you so obsessed with your online persona that you worry about being cool so much that you get mad at something like this?

Fucking rediculous.

Grow up.

learn to spell.

other than that... we'll just laugh.

asshole.

psyko514 · 06-02-2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

are you saying you don't actually work in adult?

huh?

you said cocksuckers make this place fun.
you're making this place fun. does that make you a cocksucker?

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:17 AM

If it's true, and you are so successful in this business, this is pretty fucked up behaviour.

Do you see Warren Buffet telling people to 'fuck off' if he's asked advice? No. I could easily go knock on his door tomorrow if I was some ambitious stockholder and ask him questions if I wanted to.

What goes around, comes around, my friend. And the more you act like you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, the more it becomes doubtful that you're actually successful, and if you are, that you actually worked hard for any of it.

psyko514 · 06-02-2003, 02:18 AM

why the fuck are you acting as if quiet owes you something?

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:19 AM

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learn to spell.

I think I recall you actually saying yourself that this is the last ditch effort of someone without an argument.

Is it true? Have you no argument?

TDF · 06-02-2003, 02:21 AM

burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
If it's true, and you are so successful in this business, this is pretty fucked up behaviour.

Do you see Warren Buffet telling people to 'fuck off' if he's asked advice? No. I could easily go knock on his door tomorrow if I was some ambitious stockholder and ask him questions if I wanted to.

What goes around, comes around, my friend. And the more you act like you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, the more it becomes doubtful that you're actually successful, and if you are, that you actually worked hard for any of it.

lol. you are what makes this place fun.

continue. i'm waiting.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:21 AM

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why the fuck are you acting as if quiet owes you something?

Oh, I see, make a comment to me with the tone of siding for quiet, and you get that heat off you. Classic.

You motherfuckers need to learn to keep it real. With each other and yourselves.

And since it needs to be spelled out for you, I'm not continuing to post because I think quiet 'owes' me anything.

It was when he posted with some degenerate shit like 'eat shit' and 'fuck you' and 'asshole' that I really start to question his integrity & character.

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
I think I recall you actually saying yourself that this is the last ditch effort of someone without an argument.

Is it true? Have you no argument?

what would you like to argue about? success in this business? you've apparently received a single check since you started. you aren't in this business. you are a message board poster. that's it. and that's fine.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:24 AM

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continue. i'm waiting.

For what? You have nothing, do you?

I'm right, you are an asshole, and your top priority is how you look in other's eyes.

I think I'm more of a man because I am unafraid to ask questions, and stand up for myself when the heat comes from asking such questions.

You're nothing.

psyko514 · 06-02-2003, 02:25 AM

get what heat off of me. quiet knows i'm fucking around with him.
i'm siding with him because he has the right to remain completely silent about how he runs his site, and he has to right to tell you to cram it up your ass with walnuts if you don't like the fact that he won't share anything.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:26 AM

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what would you like to argue about?

If you would instead read my posts instead of worrying about how to react to insults, you would see that I am pointing out how much you're concerned about your board persona, and how lame it is.

This is like talking to a retarded child, boring and annoying. I've made my point.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:27 AM

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nd he has to right to tell you to cram it up your ass with walnuts if you don't like the fact that he won't share anything.

Just the same as I have a right to tell him 'fuck you' back.

Right?

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
For what? You have nothing, do you?

I'm right, you are an asshole, and your top priority is how you look in other's eyes.

I think I'm more of a man because I am unafraid to ask questions, and stand up for myself when the heat comes from asking such questions.

You're nothing.

in the end, your just another whiny bitch, who decided to take it out on me.

you're funny. as much as i want to, i can't feel anything for you. if you really cared about yourself, and what direction you life was heading, you'd actually make something of yourself. instead (and very predicatbly) you complain.

good times.

psyko514 · 06-02-2003, 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Just the same as I have a right to tell him 'fuck you' back.

Right?

you didn't tell him fuck you right back.
you told him that due to his success, he owes you help, and if he doesn't it'll come around and bite him in the ass.

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:29 AM

cry some more. it sounds good.

xxweekxx · 06-02-2003, 02:31 AM

ah so many ass lickers

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:33 AM

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you're funny. as much as i want to, i can't feel anything for you. if you really cared about yourself, and what direction you life was heading, you'd actually make something of yourself. instead (and very predicabliy) you complain.

Hmm, so with what you're saying, which is contradictory:

when charly went and posted your personal information, instead of whining like a little bitch to Lensman to ban him and edit the post, you should have just kicked yourself and remember that in the future you should be more careful in the first place and kept it offline.

You're full of shit and your responses are convenient.

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:35 AM

You see, it's plain and obvious, I am trying to make something out of myself, and one of the routes I have chosen is this industry. I see no harm in asking how to do things right, appearantly you do.

You act as if you never had a question that got answered when you were learning this industry.

quiet · 06-02-2003, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Hmm, so with what you're saying, which is contradictory:

when charly went and posted your personal information, instead of whining like a little bitch to Lensman to ban him and edit the post, you should have just kicked yourself and remember that in the future you should be more careful in the first place and kept it offline.

You're full of shit and your responses are convenient.

you are a complete and utter failure, and you know. should i quote you?

so much fun regardless...

hybrid · 06-02-2003, 02:41 AM

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You see, it's plain and obvious, I am trying to make something out of myself, and one of the routes I have chosen is this industry. I see no harm in asking how to do things right, appearantly you do.

You act as if you never had a question that got answered when you were learning this industry.

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You motherfuckers need to learn to keep it real. With each other and yourselves.

Nuff said, right here. I will remember to refer to this post when I deal with fucks like you again.

Danielle · 06-02-2003, 02:51 AM

As many newbies that come on line every day there is no such thing as an over exposed site.

Hugs,
Danielle

John3 · 06-02-2003, 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by Danielle
As many newbies that come on line every day there is no such thing as an over exposed site.

Hugs,
Danielle

there's a sucker born everyday

Paul Markham · 06-02-2003, 03:30 AM

There are many different ways to make it in porn, it depends on your talents, work rate and resources.

You can put up a great tour, with nothing behind it and promote the crap out of it. Then change the site design every year. So it looks different.

Or you can put up a quality site that will not need 10k hits to convert a stayer and when people have seen everything after 3 months are likely to come back and rejoin.

Choice is yours really, but which ever way you if you want success remember;

TALENT
WORK RATE
RESOURCES

If it were any diferent every one would be doing it.

06-02-2003, 01:25 AM	#1
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	Serious question, now; If sales drop when a site is overexposed, Why is it that we usually see the top 5-10 slots of the hun filled with galleries pushing the same sponsors? I swear I've seen Captain Stabbin galleries up there more times than I can count. And quiet, on the real, man, the word is that you do not fuck with affiliates, instead, you just make your own galls and pay for top spots on sites. If this is accurate, then maybe you could help answer these questions. What is done to keep surfers interested, if they've turned a site down before, or were members once before, and want something new? If it's true that overexposed sites sell badly as time goes by, how is it justifiable to keep them prominent on high-traffic sites?

06-02-2003, 02:00 AM	#20
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	why would quiet or anybody else give you information they've worked to figure out? people in this industry are pretty helpful but you are way too presumptuous. GFY isn't Tom's Newbie Booster. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

06-02-2003, 02:18 AM	#30
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	why the fuck are you acting as if quiet owes you something? __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

06-02-2003, 02:21 AM	#32
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn __________________ Sig heil

06-02-2003, 02:25 AM	#37
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	get what heat off of me. quiet knows i'm fucking around with him. i'm siding with him because he has the right to remain completely silent about how he runs his site, and he has to right to tell you to cram it up your ass with walnuts if you don't like the fact that he won't share anything. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

06-02-2003, 01:26 AM	#2
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.

06-02-2003, 01:31 AM	#6
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of thegalleries are free placements.

06-02-2003, 01:35 AM	#8
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	But....if there's enough newbies to porn on a daily basis to justify paying for placements: Then theoretically, a site's sales should never drop..... I mean, bangbus for instance....why would their sales drop? Or is it New Surfers + Old Surfers = Hella Conversions then some time passes and it's: New Surfers - No Old Surfers + Old Surfers Revisiting = Steady Conversions for higher profile submitters and slot-holders

06-02-2003, 01:37 AM	#9
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	just dont promote oversaturated programs, basically if u dont have millions and millions only open partnered access on ur affiliates so ur shit dont get posted everywhere. let the newbs screw round with the bigger programs content who r already worthless.

06-02-2003, 01:48 AM	#10
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	Thanks Aaron & Meta. It's surprising how many people are so afraid or unwilling [quiet]to talk about these kind of things. I think if the survival of profit from online porn for more than 5 years, despite it's growing level of difficulty has taught us anything, it's that there's enough money out there for everybody.

06-02-2003, 01:51 AM	#12
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	fuck off asshole. i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

06-02-2003, 01:57 AM	#19
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	And tell me, how exactly do you take offense to me speculating why you would not respond to a post that was partially pointed at you?

06-02-2003, 02:17 AM	#29
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	If it's true, and you are so successful in this business, this is pretty fucked up behaviour. Do you see Warren Buffet telling people to 'fuck off' if he's asked advice? No. I could easily go knock on his door tomorrow if I was some ambitious stockholder and ask him questions if I wanted to. What goes around, comes around, my friend. And the more you act like you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, the more it becomes doubtful that you're actually successful, and if you are, that you actually worked hard for any of it.

06-02-2003, 02:29 AM	#42
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	cry some more. it sounds good.

06-02-2003, 02:31 AM	#43
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	ah so many ass lickers

06-02-2003, 02:35 AM	#45
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	You see, it's plain and obvious, I am trying to make something out of myself, and one of the routes I have chosen is this industry. I see no harm in asking how to do things right, appearantly you do. You act as if you never had a question that got answered when you were learning this industry.

06-02-2003, 02:51 AM	#48
Danielle Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My Coffin Posts: 1,227	As many newbies that come on line every day there is no such thing as an over exposed site. Hugs, Danielle

06-02-2003, 03:30 AM	#50
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	There are many different ways to make it in porn, it depends on your talents, work rate and resources. You can put up a great tour, with nothing behind it and promote the crap out of it. Then change the site design every year. So it looks different. Or you can put up a quality site that will not need 10k hits to convert a stayer and when people have seen everything after 3 months are likely to come back and rejoin. Choice is yours really, but which ever way you if you want success remember; TALENT WORK RATE RESOURCES If it were any diferent every one would be doing it. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70