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hybrid 06-02-2003 01:25 AM

Serious question, now; If sales drop when a site is overexposed,
 
Why is it that we usually see the top 5-10 slots of the hun filled with galleries pushing the same sponsors?

I swear I've seen Captain Stabbin galleries up there more times than I can count.

And quiet, on the real, man, the word is that you do not fuck with affiliates, instead, you just make your own galls and pay for top spots on sites. If this is accurate, then maybe you could help answer these questions.

What is done to keep surfers interested, if they've turned a site down before, or were members once before, and want something new?

If it's true that overexposed sites sell badly as time goes by, how is it justifiable to keep them prominent on high-traffic sites?

AaronM 06-02-2003 01:26 AM

A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:28 AM

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A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.
Ok, i anticipated this response, so I had a third question to go along with that.

If this is the case, and you can count on newbies to the net & porn to not be overexposed by your shit, is'nt it a huge snag when high volume sites like the hun don't advertise anywhere?

Machete_ 06-02-2003 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
A shitload of newbies sign up for AOL every day.
what he said :-)


...and manboobs retain

AaronM 06-02-2003 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Ok, i anticipated this response, so I had a third question to go along with that.

If this is the case, and you can count on newbies to the net & porn to not be overexposed by your shit, is'nt it a huge snag when high volume sites like the hun don't advertise anywhere?

The Huns philosophy.....

If you build it...They will come.

Rings pretty true in this case, dontcha think?

Machete_ 06-02-2003 01:31 AM

the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of thegalleries are free placements.

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:32 AM

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The Huns philosophy.....

If you build it...They will come.

Rings pretty true in this case, dontcha think?
Yeah, so basically, the shitload of recips out there.

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:35 AM

But....if there's enough newbies to porn on a daily basis to justify paying for placements:

Then theoretically, a site's sales should never drop.....

I mean, bangbus for instance....why would their sales drop?

Or is it

New Surfers + Old Surfers = Hella Conversions

then some time passes and it's:

New Surfers - No Old Surfers + Old Surfers Revisiting = Steady Conversions for higher profile submitters and slot-holders

MetaMan 06-02-2003 01:37 AM

just dont promote oversaturated programs,
basically if u dont have millions and millions only open partnered access on ur affiliates so ur shit dont get posted everywhere.

let the newbs screw round with the bigger programs content who r already worthless.

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:48 AM

Thanks Aaron & Meta.

It's surprising how many people are so afraid or unwilling [quiet]to talk about these kind of things.

I think if the survival of profit from online porn for more than 5 years, despite it's growing level of difficulty has taught us anything, it's that there's enough money out there for everybody.

AaronM 06-02-2003 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid

I think if the survival of profit from online porn for more than 5 years, despite it's growing level of difficulty has taught us anything, it's that there's enough money out there for everybody.

So...Send me a fucking check then.

quiet 06-02-2003 01:51 AM

fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

:glugglug

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:54 AM

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fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. eat shit.
??? Did you even read what I posted? That's what I was saying.

Even if you don't run an affiliate program, how do you steadily maintain profit over a long period of time when you reuse the same methods that have proved to affect sales of other sites.

Don't get so defensive, man.

AaronM 06-02-2003 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

:glugglug

I still wuv ya! :)

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:55 AM

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So...Send me a fucking check then.
Take paypal? :)

quiet 06-02-2003 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
??? Did you even read what I posted? That's what I was saying.

Even if you don't run an affiliate program, how do you steadily maintain profit over a long period of time when you reuse the same methods that have proved to affect sales of other sites.

Don't get so defensive, man.

t's surprising how many people are so afraid or unwilling [quiet]to talk about these kind of things

AaronM 06-02-2003 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
??? Did you even read what I posted? That's what I was saying.

Even if you don't run an affiliate program, how do you steadily maintain profit over a long period of time when you reuse the same methods that have proved to affect sales of other sites.

Don't get so defensive, man.

May I suggest that you back off now?

Let this one go.

:2 cents:

psyko514 06-02-2003 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
fuck off asshole.

i don't run an affiliate program, and never will. why should i help anyone's sorry fucking ass? eat shit.

:glugglug


http://www.514bombed.com/images/kelso.jpg

hybrid 06-02-2003 01:57 AM

And tell me, how exactly do you take offense to me speculating why you would not respond to a post that was partially pointed at you?

Mutt 06-02-2003 02:00 AM

why would quiet or anybody else give you information they've worked to figure out?

people in this industry are pretty helpful but you are way too presumptuous. GFY isn't Tom's Newbie Booster.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:00 AM

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May I suggest that you back off now?
Back off? I'm sorry, but I really don't see any belligerence on my part when I'm simply asking a question.

Quiet, if you see this as offensive, then I really don't know what to tell you.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:00 AM

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you are way too presumptuous
Yeah, I guess so.

quiet 06-02-2003 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
And tell me, how exactly do you take offense to me speculating why you would not respond to a post that was partially pointed at you?
so now you *were* talking about me.

when does your shift start? simple!

cocksuckers are what make gfy fun. fuck you.

:glugglug

psyko514 06-02-2003 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


so now you *were* talking about me.

when does your shift start? simple!

cocksuckers are what make gfy fun. fuck you.

:glugglug

are you saying you're a cocksucker?

quiet 06-02-2003 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514


are you saying you're a cocksucker?

are you saying you don't actually work in adult?

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:10 AM

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so now you *were* talking about me.

when does your shift start? simple!

cocksuckers are what make gfy fun. fuck you.
No, quiet, fuck you and your arrogant ass.

Yeah, I was pointing a question at you. Big fucking deal.

People say my buttons are easy to push, yet you're the one who reacts with disgust and anger because I speculate the reasons you will not respond.

It pisses you off that I want to know you're opinion, but at the same time it boosts your ego because I do so?

Are you so obsessed with your online persona that you worry about being cool so much that you get mad at something like this?

Fucking rediculous.

Grow up.

quiet 06-02-2003 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
No, quiet, fuck you and your arrogant ass.

Yeah, I was pointing a question at you. Big fucking deal.

People say my buttons are easy to push, yet you're the one who reacts with disgust and anger because I speculate the reasons you will not respond.

It pisses you off that I want to know you're opinion, but at the same time it boosts your ego because I do so?

Are you so obsessed with your online persona that you worry about being cool so much that you get mad at something like this?


Fucking rediculous.

Grow up.

learn to spell.

other than that... we'll just laugh.

asshole.

psyko514 06-02-2003 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


are you saying you don't actually work in adult?

huh?

you said cocksuckers make this place fun.
you're making this place fun. does that make you a cocksucker?

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:17 AM

If it's true, and you are so successful in this business, this is pretty fucked up behaviour.

Do you see Warren Buffet telling people to 'fuck off' if he's asked advice? No. I could easily go knock on his door tomorrow if I was some ambitious stockholder and ask him questions if I wanted to.

What goes around, comes around, my friend. And the more you act like you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, the more it becomes doubtful that you're actually successful, and if you are, that you actually worked hard for any of it.

psyko514 06-02-2003 02:18 AM

why the fuck are you acting as if quiet owes you something?

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:19 AM

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learn to spell.
I think I recall you actually saying yourself that this is the last ditch effort of someone without an argument.

Is it true? Have you no argument?

TDF 06-02-2003 02:21 AM

burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

quiet 06-02-2003 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
If it's true, and you are so successful in this business, this is pretty fucked up behaviour.

Do you see Warren Buffet telling people to 'fuck off' if he's asked advice? No. I could easily go knock on his door tomorrow if I was some ambitious stockholder and ask him questions if I wanted to.

What goes around, comes around, my friend. And the more you act like you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, the more it becomes doubtful that you're actually successful, and if you are, that you actually worked hard for any of it.

lol. you are what makes this place fun.

continue. i'm waiting.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:21 AM

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why the fuck are you acting as if quiet owes you something?
Oh, I see, make a comment to me with the tone of siding for quiet, and you get that heat off you. Classic.

You motherfuckers need to learn to keep it real. With each other and yourselves.

And since it needs to be spelled out for you, I'm not continuing to post because I think quiet 'owes' me anything.

It was when he posted with some degenerate shit like 'eat shit' and 'fuck you' and 'asshole' that I really start to question his integrity & character.

quiet 06-02-2003 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
I think I recall you actually saying yourself that this is the last ditch effort of someone without an argument.

Is it true? Have you no argument?

what would you like to argue about? success in this business? you've apparently received a single check since you started. you aren't in this business. you are a message board poster. that's it. and that's fine.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:24 AM

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continue. i'm waiting.
For what? You have nothing, do you?

I'm right, you are an asshole, and your top priority is how you look in other's eyes.

I think I'm more of a man because I am unafraid to ask questions, and stand up for myself when the heat comes from asking such questions.

You're nothing.

psyko514 06-02-2003 02:25 AM

get what heat off of me. quiet knows i'm fucking around with him.
i'm siding with him because he has the right to remain completely silent about how he runs his site, and he has to right to tell you to cram it up your ass with walnuts if you don't like the fact that he won't share anything.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:26 AM

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what would you like to argue about?
If you would instead read my posts instead of worrying about how to react to insults, you would see that I am pointing out how much you're concerned about your board persona, and how lame it is.

This is like talking to a retarded child, boring and annoying. I've made my point.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:27 AM

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nd he has to right to tell you to cram it up your ass with walnuts if you don't like the fact that he won't share anything.
Just the same as I have a right to tell him 'fuck you' back.

Right?

quiet 06-02-2003 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
For what? You have nothing, do you?

I'm right, you are an asshole, and your top priority is how you look in other's eyes.

I think I'm more of a man because I am unafraid to ask questions, and stand up for myself when the heat comes from asking such questions.

You're nothing.

in the end, your just another whiny bitch, who decided to take it out on me.

you're funny. as much as i want to, i can't feel anything for you. if you really cared about yourself, and what direction you life was heading, you'd actually make something of yourself. instead (and very predicatbly) you complain.

good times.

:glugglug

psyko514 06-02-2003 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Just the same as I have a right to tell him 'fuck you' back.

Right?

you didn't tell him fuck you right back.
you told him that due to his success, he owes you help, and if he doesn't it'll come around and bite him in the ass.

quiet 06-02-2003 02:29 AM

cry some more. it sounds good.

:glugglug

xxweekxx 06-02-2003 02:31 AM

ah so many ass lickers

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:33 AM

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you're funny. as much as i want to, i can't feel anything for you. if you really cared about yourself, and what direction you life was heading, you'd actually make something of yourself. instead (and very predicabliy) you complain.
Hmm, so with what you're saying, which is contradictory:

when charly went and posted your personal information, instead of whining like a little bitch to Lensman to ban him and edit the post, you should have just kicked yourself and remember that in the future you should be more careful in the first place and kept it offline.

You're full of shit and your responses are convenient.

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:35 AM

You see, it's plain and obvious, I am trying to make something out of myself, and one of the routes I have chosen is this industry. I see no harm in asking how to do things right, appearantly you do.

You act as if you never had a question that got answered when you were learning this industry.

quiet 06-02-2003 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Hmm, so with what you're saying, which is contradictory:

when charly went and posted your personal information, instead of whining like a little bitch to Lensman to ban him and edit the post, you should have just kicked yourself and remember that in the future you should be more careful in the first place and kept it offline.

You're full of shit and your responses are convenient.

you are a complete and utter failure, and you know. should i quote you?

so much fun regardless...

hybrid 06-02-2003 02:41 AM

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You see, it's plain and obvious, I am trying to make something out of myself, and one of the routes I have chosen is this industry. I see no harm in asking how to do things right, appearantly you do.

You act as if you never had a question that got answered when you were learning this industry.
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You motherfuckers need to learn to keep it real. With each other and yourselves.
Nuff said, right here. I will remember to refer to this post when I deal with fucks like you again.

Danielle 06-02-2003 02:51 AM

As many newbies that come on line every day there is no such thing as an over exposed site.

Hugs,
Danielle

John3 06-02-2003 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by Danielle
As many newbies that come on line every day there is no such thing as an over exposed site.

Hugs,
Danielle

there's a sucker born everyday :)

Paul Markham 06-02-2003 03:30 AM

There are many different ways to make it in porn, it depends on your talents, work rate and resources.

You can put up a great tour, with nothing behind it and promote the crap out of it. Then change the site design every year. So it looks different.

Or you can put up a quality site that will not need 10k hits to convert a stayer and when people have seen everything after 3 months are likely to come back and rejoin.

Choice is yours really, but which ever way you if you want success remember;

TALENT
WORK RATE
RESOURCES

If it were any diferent every one would be doing it.


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