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Old 09-30-2025, 03:10 PM   #51
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These are mainstream numbers by the way--do we not value adult at a better rate?
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I know you're new here, but no, we do not
Sort of fitting, but jk. haha
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Old 10-01-2025, 12:56 AM   #52
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I'm telling you, it is f'd for sure ... at least for the small, relatively unknown guys trying to hustle a much needed (somewhat inexpensive) quality service. That has always been a challenge, but now so more than ever.

*This is my experience, your mileage may vary. I was wondering how others were doing, hence the post.



I'll keep the novel short, just wanted to explain more. haha Anyway, it was late and I was bored. I'm not mad, sounded like you were. I was going to ignore your post, but that's kind of rude. lol

Post those other clips that you received if you want (or if they allow it), I'll post the two I sent you as well. Just curious. Again, this post or service I'm talking about has nothing to do with AI, but, maybe there is someone lurking who can do exactly what you need.
Spoke like well balanced individual. My whole point was that we ( a business company, I call it a "B" as to B to B) wanted to spend money for services from other "Bs", but there were no takers NOT because of money BUT because not being able to deliver the goods.

And as to the clips ? Feel free to post them here if you wish. Especially the 15 second continuous AI shot with two ladies ( one nude) kissing and fondling each other I just checked the others and all 3 have taken their test clips down or ID'd ( watermarked) their clips and I do NOT feel comfortable to disclose them.
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Old 10-01-2025, 03:08 PM   #53
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In Canada we called him Trudeau.
You are aware he's gone?

It Carney(val) now...

and in a few years it will be Xavier Trudeau
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You are aware he's gone?

It Carney(val) now...

and in a few years it will be Xavier Trudeau
No No it will be one of these guys :


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No No it will be one of these guys :


At least they'll be dancing and fireworks in the streets of Brampton
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Old 10-02-2025, 11:41 AM   #56
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Old 10-02-2025, 12:04 PM   #57
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For anyone curious, here are some stats so far:

- 1 Month of market research time
- 4 Months dev time, testing, adding dummy content
- 1 Month working on call script, email marketing material and gathering data

3 guys on the phone for 3 weeks and so far everyone just wants to go with the freebie being offered. Price point ranges between $50 - $300

*It's a solid service and these prices are low in comparison to any competition

Zero response on email campaign.

If one biz is not doing great, it's not always easy to just jump to the next, unless you already have a good amount of traffic you can push to it immediately. Clearly starting a new venture is not always easy. And you still have build out/dev time and what not for anything new. Unless it's just a simple white label type project or something similar. I think most go years before making any profits, but those are angel funded, trust fund, daddy money type operations or what not. Time is money and the time spent on this, was money lost elsewhere. Not giving up by any means, just a very poor response so far. I don't have enough info to determine why such a bad response yet, so again, figured I'd see how others are doing.
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Old 10-02-2025, 12:15 PM   #58
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Spoke like well balanced individual. My whole point was that we ( a business company, I call it a "B" as to B to B) wanted to spend money for services from other "Bs", but there were no takers NOT because of money BUT because not being able to deliver the goods.

And as to the clips ? Feel free to post them here if you wish. Especially the 15 second continuous AI shot with two ladies ( one nude) kissing and fondling each other I just checked the others and all 3 have taken their test clips down or ID'd ( watermarked) their clips and I do NOT feel comfortable to disclose them.


If you don't find anyone else soon or at some point, I may still be able to offer what you need, without involving way too much time. As you can see by the post above, I've been sort of involved with trying to get something else moving and my time has been limited. Will keep in touch / keep you posted.
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Old 10-03-2025, 01:40 AM   #59
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If you don't find anyone else soon or at some point, I may still be able to offer what you need, without involving way too much time. As you can see by the post above, I've been sort of involved with trying to get something else moving and my time has been limited. Will keep in touch / keep you posted.
My issue is your "irregular and unsure" communication. Even in this post you refer to:"I may still be able"....."my time has been limited". I have said to you come back to me once you are able to do what I require. You know everything from our 37 emails. I am noticing literally 100s of AI stuff on youtube, sexy and excellent, yet they all have the same problem" No nudity and NOT longer shots then 5 seconds....like these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/@VSSEVEN/shorts
https://www.youtube.com/@BEAUTYCITYLIFE/shorts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsx...W8-oqBdp5C8ypA

.. and there are many others....

HowTF they monetise all the gymnasts, figure-skaters, divers and babes in lingerie on "planes, trains and automobiles"... ALL spreading their legs, or max. in same sexy lingerie ,beats me!

... and one more thing. I have re-read the whole thread, yet I do NOT know what is consuming all your time, what is the mysterious new business? And to the fact that there are NO takers, maybe what you are working on is not needed? Here, I am offering guaranteed agreed to payment and a long term business = basic economy class 101, yet you are saying..... " maybe I can find some time"...
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My issue is your "irregular and unsure" communication. Even in this post you refer to:"I may still be able"....."my time has been limited". I have said to you come back to me once you are able to do what I require. You know everything from our 37 emails. I am noticing literally 100s of AI stuff on youtube, sexy and excellent, yet they all have the same problem" No nudity and NOT longer shots then 5 seconds....like these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/@VSSEVEN/shorts
https://www.youtube.com/@BEAUTYCITYLIFE/shorts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsx...W8-oqBdp5C8ypA

.. and there are many others....

HowTF they monetise all the gymnasts, figure-skaters, divers and babes in lingerie on "planes, trains and automobiles"... ALL spreading their legs, or max. in same sexy lingerie ,beats me!
I just wrapped this up...
https://gfy.com/23402803-post5.html

Anyways, bringing it into video will be Monday's project. I dont see doing stuff like the sleeping girls on the train to be much challenge at all. It's easy to make the same girl do anything that the Ai will allow in any scene, even convert from one reality to another, like from real human to comic character, or into a handcrafted doll or an android, in any art style.
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Ok thats pretty cool. But looks very fake. What if I did way better?

What is the angle on this, where is the money?
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Old 10-03-2025, 05:37 AM   #62
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There's hardly any money in real girls.

Certain conehead dark bastards want humans to be squeamish about IRL reproduction so they can move that "process" over to the lab.

I'm not helping them.
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Anyways, bringing it into video will be Monday's project. I dont see doing stuff like the sleeping girls on the train to be much challenge at all. It's easy to make the same girl do anything that the Ai will allow in any scene
The challenge is the nudity / sex part, length (15+ seconds) and multiple characters doing different things per scene. If you can figure most of that out, then you're good and can probably offer it as a service. As I'm sure you're aware, the best AI is only available for mainstream, so you have to use "sub-par" tech at the moment. Not sure how much you've done with it yet, but I suspect once you start doing more of it, you'll see the issues.
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My issue is your "irregular and unsure" communication. Even in this post you refer to:"I may still be able"....."my time has been limited". I have said to you come back to me once you are able to do what I require. You know everything from our 37 emails. I am noticing literally 100s of AI stuff on youtube, sexy and excellent, yet they all have the same problem" No nudity and NOT longer shots then 5 seconds....like these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/@VSSEVEN/shorts
https://www.youtube.com/@BEAUTYCITYLIFE/shorts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsx...W8-oqBdp5C8ypA

.. and there are many others....

HowTF they monetise all the gymnasts, figure-skaters, divers and babes in lingerie on "planes, trains and automobiles"... ALL spreading their legs, or max. in same sexy lingerie ,beats me!

... and one more thing. I have re-read the whole thread, yet I do NOT know what is consuming all your time, what is the mysterious new business? And to the fact that there are NO takers, maybe what you are working on is not needed? Here, I am offering guaranteed agreed to payment and a long term business = basic economy class 101, yet you are saying..... " maybe I can find some time"...
Yeah, like I said, I've been knee deep in this project, so my time has been limited. I did get you a couple previews/demos none the less, at least to get a better idea. I get it's not 100% what you need as of yet, so we'll see what I can come up with, if anything.

No mystery about the biz, but it's not adult, and most here don't give a shit anyway. But it's what I know best, and a twist on the "lead gen" that was successful for me in the past and since I've invested a good amount of time into this project, and it's a much more "potentially" lucrative industry -- it has to take priority. That's not to say that I won't do other things, because as I mentioned, I often work on several projects at once. It's a solid concept, but it's a combination of the economy, uncertainty, people are cheap, and it is a new, relatively unknown platform. So ... have a few obstacles to overcome.

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HowTF they monetise all the gymnasts, figure-skaters, divers and babes in lingerie on "planes, trains and automobiles"... ALL spreading their legs, or max. in same sexy lingerie ,beats me!
They are chasing subscribers and more views for ad $$.
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The challenge is the nudity / sex part, length (15+ seconds) and multiple characters doing different things per scene. If you can figure most of that out, then you're good and can probably offer it as a service. As I'm sure you're aware, the best AI is only available for mainstream, so you have to use "sub-par" tech at the moment. Not sure how much you've done with it yet, but I suspect once you start doing more of it, you'll see the issues.
Well thats why I don't even try to adult with it. Why waste time with it when the rest of the world is wide open? Controlling characters and getting them to do things is easy with their clothes on. Making my own Ai product and getting them to share them is easy too. Making a Terminator smile like he enjoys Cheese Soda (which i invented) so easy....



I've got character control locked down for start/end frames.



Even making them do different things.



I step into video next week.
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Well thats why I don't even try to adult with it. Why waste time with it when the rest of the world is wide open? Controlling characters and getting them to do things is easy with their clothes on. Making my own Ai product and getting them to share them is easy too. Making a Terminator smile like he enjoys Cheese Soda (which i invented) so easy....



I've got character control locked down for start/end frames.



Even making them do different things.



I step into video next week.
Yeah, I'll have to agree, much bigger market for non-adult with it for sure. Looks good so far. If you integrate the video portion, I think it will be a solid product.

You planning on selling it or just using it for yourself?
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Well thats why I don't even try to adult with it. Why waste time with it when the rest of the world is wide open? Controlling characters and getting them to do things is easy with their clothes on. Making my own Ai product and getting them to share them is easy too. Making a Terminator smile like he enjoys Cheese Soda (which i invented) so easy....
You did answer your own question to me. As Anthony Sorelli states:

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The challenge is the nudity / sex part, length (15+ seconds) and multiple characters doing different things per scene. If you can figure most of that out, then you're good and can probably offer it as a service.
as you have posted

https://youtu.be/oZEkSGellX4?si=9CFJfjE9aLUUCns-

This is very close in quality but as above NO nudity, NO interaction and short shots.

I am trying to construct a movie , not some silly clip
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HowTF they monetise all the gymnasts, figure-skaters, divers and babes in lingerie on "planes, trains and automobiles"... ALL spreading their legs, or max. in same sexy lingerie ,beats me!

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They are chasing subscribers and more views for ad $$.
Chasing YouTube clicks is not my business model.
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HowTF they monetise all the gymnasts, figure-skaters, divers and babes in lingerie on "planes, trains and automobiles"... ALL spreading their legs, or max. in same sexy lingerie ,beats me!



Chasing YouTube clicks is not my business model.
Oh, I know exactly what you're trying to do. I thought you had a question, "beats me?" I was simply telling you HowTF (how the fuck?) they monetize.
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Yeah, I'll have to agree, much bigger market for non-adult with it for sure. Looks good so far. If you integrate the video portion, I think it will be a solid product.

You planning on selling it or just using it for yourself?
It started off as just tools I built for myself, then some others asked if I sold them and i did sell one in late '24, but these I'm just putting on a website and letting others buy credits just like any other Ai site is doing.
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It started off as just tools I built for myself, then some others asked if I sold them and i did sell one in late '24, but these I'm just putting on a website and letting others buy credits just like any other Ai site is doing.
Yeah, I've got some stuff just sitting on the shelf, so made the decision to sell them, instead of trying to compete with others in "whatever" industry the tool was designed for. Obviously, there's a few of those in existence already, and I don't plan on offering anything unique (but the products themselves) and what not, and really, everything is competitive these days ... gotta pick something and run with it. I mean, there's a lot of people selling AI services for credits, several selling software, many selling themselves and everything under the sun and in between. I have a good number of authors on board that have some good talent, and ready to add their products, so that's a bonus. But, like with anything else, we shall see. Meanwhile, corporate giants continue to kill it ...

If you've got anything (you're not already selling) or plan on using and you want to add it to an up and coming marketplace, let me know. As long as it's not filled with bugs and you support it, then it's all good.
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Oh, I know exactly what you're trying to do. I thought you had a question, "beats me?" I was simply telling you HowTF (how the fuck?) they monetize.
Thank you for your answer ! What else did you want?
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100%!! My coffee (Lavazza from Italy) jumped 50%, from $9.99 a pound to $14.99!
I drink the same brand of coffee. The Lavazza prices have increased by 50%, even in Europe.

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I drink the same brand of coffee. The Lavazza prices have increased by 50%, even in Europe.

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Insanity! There shouldn't be a price jump in Europe for Lavazza! I wonder if this is just simple price gouging at this point.
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Insanity! There shouldn't be a price jump in Europe for Lavazza! I wonder if this is just simple price gouging at this point.
It was actually foreseeable that manufacturers and retailers of goods would raise prices
in all directions, regardless of whether they produce in the USA or not or are affected
by the tariffs or not.

In the case of Lavazza, I would say that only a portion of the actual tariff increases
were passed on to US customers, and the rest was balanced out via other world markets.

I wouldn't be surprised if even companies that produce in the US raise their prices slightly.
Their foreign competitors are forced to do so anyway.
As a US company, I certainly wouldn't give away that profit margin.
Why would Ford give away a car for $50,000 when Mercedes has to offer it for $70,000?

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Models seem also to struggle more, recently they ask me for jobs and I'm just a small scale creator.

They only product not getting more expensive each year is porn
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It was actually foreseeable that manufacturers and retailers of goods would raise prices
in all directions, regardless of whether they produce in the USA or not or are affected
by the tariffs or not.

In the case of Lavazza, I would say that only a portion of the actual tariff increases
were passed on to US customers, and the rest was balanced out via other world markets.

I wouldn't be surprised if even companies that produce in the US raise their prices slightly.
Their foreign competitors are forced to do so anyway.
As a US company, I certainly wouldn't give away that profit margin.
Why would Ford give away a car for $50,000 when Mercedes has to offer it for $70,000?

Greetings Beaver
Very true - but most corporations and companies will take advantage of any excuse to raise prices and increase margins. I don't necessarily "blame" them because business is business, and the market will determine what people are willing to pay (or not pay). But the rapidity of the price hikes is what is so daunting. I predict a worldwide backlash in 2026 because the average person simply cannot afford a 50% increase in everything they buy.

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Models seem also to struggle more, recently they ask me for jobs and I'm just a small scale creator.

They only product not getting more expensive each year is porn
I have played around with price increases on my paysites to little effect. Higher prices = less customers but the increase evened out the Member loss so, in the end, a net zero effect.
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Models seem also to struggle more, recently they ask me for jobs and I'm just a small scale creator.

They only product not getting more expensive each year is porn
Eh, porn will probably become an illegal drug soon anyway ...

I know many are feeling the pinch. Several friends in different industries have basically either lost their jobs (due to no work) or had to move into other industries. Perhaps some just don't want to admit it yet (here at least). I don't think it's all rainbows and unicorns everywhere, unless you're a huge corp. Anyway, whatever ... I'll be trying several different things.
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