Looks like AC Pay got bit by VISA - GoFuckYourself.com

SunTzu · 05-28-2003, 02:44 PM

From the AC Pay lounge.. I guess there's no hiding from Visa. AC Pay was the most reliable of the holdouts...

From the AC Pay lounge:
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Dear Webmasters,

In the interests of retaining the continued good relationship with merchant banks and provide our clients with the best possible service, AC Pay will be implementing some significant changes over the coming weeks. These break down into two categories--Registration Fees and Site Content, respectively.

REGISTRATION FEES:

As of June 15, AC Pay will begin charging an annual registration fee to all clients. Clients outside of the United States and Canada will be subject to a $350 annual fee, while clients within the United States and Canada will be subject to a $750 fee. For clients doing business within the United States or Canada that have already registered with VISA through an IPSP, the $750 fee will be waived and they need only pay $350, with proper proof of registration. For clients with a certain transaction volume, AC Pay may, at it's discretion, waive some or all of the annual fees, on a per-case basis. Future clients will be required to pay fees to AC Pay before processing can begin. Existing clients will be sent a bill, as necessary.

SITE CONTENT:

We have already begun providing Webmasters with a number of simple steps to take to ensure that their sites comply with card association regulations. We will distribute these more widely in the coming weeks, As a reminder, AC Pay will not accept sites in any of the following categories:

- Rape: any materials involving rape, simulated rape, forced sex or bondage with penetration.
- Child Pornography: any materials involving persons under the age of 18, either ?actual? or suggested?.
- Hate Crimes / Hate Propaganda
- Pre-teen References: any references to ?Lolita? or ?Pre-Teen?.
- Bestiality: any materials involving sex with animals.
- Molestation
- Incest
- Inappropriate URL: any URL (domain, directory or file name) that implies any inappropriate content listed above.

If you have any questions, please email [email protected]. We expect a large number of questions, so our response times may be slower than average for a few days, but we will get back to you. To protect the privacy and security of our clients, we will not respond to posts on this or other boards.

Sincerely,

Cormac Foster
_________________
Senior Product Manager
Business Development Team

SunTzu · 05-28-2003, 02:53 PM

How long until Probilling, 2000Charge, Globill, Verotel, etc. follow?

Mr.Fiction · 05-28-2003, 02:54 PM

Can you post the new Site Content rules too?

Fletch XXX · 05-28-2003, 02:55 PM

Hell cometh.

SunTzu · 05-28-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Can you post the new Site Content rules too?

good idea.. edited

Sly_RJ · 05-28-2003, 02:57 PM

Shiiit. I was just sent my contract today, too. If I'm going to put up the cash I'd rather be with Epoch, sorry guys!

05-28-2003, 02:57 PM

hmm interesting

05-28-2003, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Shiiit. I was just sent my contract today, too. If I'm going to put up the cash I'd rather be with Epoch, sorry guys!

yeah no kidding.

SunTzu · 05-28-2003, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Shiiit. I was just sent my contract today, too. If I'm going to put up the cash I'd rather be with Epoch, sorry guys!

Too funny, I ran across this when I was checking on my contract too. They're still being decent about it, giving a discount if you're already registered with another processor. Hmm, how come the other guys aren't doing that?

Mr.Fiction · 05-28-2003, 03:03 PM

I wonder if calling women "sluts" or "bitches" or "whores" makes it "Hate Propaganda"?

lamrobertson · 05-28-2003, 03:08 PM

Strange they never sent an email

05-28-2003, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lamrobertson
Strange they never sent an email

indeed - and in what lounge did you see this posted?

gothweb · 05-28-2003, 03:16 PM

Damnit, incest can be sexy.

clubsexy · 05-28-2003, 03:19 PM

My friend chose ACpay to avoid the 750.00....

SunTzu · 05-28-2003, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox

indeed - and in what lounge did you see this posted?

AC Pay's lounge.. aclounge.com

Centurion · 05-28-2003, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunTzu
How long until Probilling, 2000Charge, Globill, Verotel, etc. follow?

Not long!

Pipecrew · 05-28-2003, 03:41 PM

I fedexed my contract on friday and faxed them, still no response.... IF i could go elsewhere, I sure as hell would

ldinternet · 05-28-2003, 03:42 PM

Looks like I need a new processor for my preteen molestation site. Any takers?

gruffy · 05-28-2003, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunTzu
- Rape: any materials involving rape, simulated rape, forced sex or bondage with penetration.
- Child Pornography
- Hate Crimes / Hate Propaganda
- Pre-teen References: any references to ?Lolita? or ?Pre-Teen?.
- Bestiality: any materials involving sex with animals.
- Molestation
- Incest

Man, what is their fucking beef with bondage & penetration.

Bitches love it.

hershie · 05-28-2003, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunTzu
How long until Probilling, 2000Charge, Globill, Verotel, etc. follow?

I don't imagine too long now.

Gutterboy · 05-28-2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Looks like I need a new processor for my preteen molestation site. Any takers?

JesusBill

Digipimp · 05-28-2003, 03:54 PM

I just got my email from them!

Kimmykim · 05-28-2003, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Hell cometh.

And it's name is Compliance.

05-28-2003, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Looks like I need a new processor for my preteen molestation site. Any takers?

I hope for you that you're not fucking serious...

gothweb · 05-28-2003, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gruffy

Man, what is their fucking beef with bondage & penetration.

Bitches love it.

I don't get that either. Bondage is a stupidly common fetish activity among all sorts of people; people like to tie each other up and fuck. Why does that get lumped in with rape?

ldinternet · 05-28-2003, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
I hope for you that you're not fucking serious...

ldinternet : i'm just waiting for some dumbass to reply to my post in that acpay thread with something like "whoa, i hope you're not serious!" i swear, it will be a fucking bloodbath

Equinox : yeah i bet

Equinox : kill em all

ldinternet : seems like all the tards are creeping out of the woodwork recently

Equinox : tardy bastards

SexySarah · 05-28-2003, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet

ldinternet : i'm just waiting for some dumbass to reply to my post in that acpay thread with something like "whoa, i hope you're not serious!" i swear, it will be a fucking bloodbath

Equinox : yeah i bet

Equinox : kill em all

ldinternet : seems like all the tards are creeping out of the woodwork recently

Equinox : tardy bastards

posting ICQ logs

DRAMA

ldinternet · 05-28-2003, 04:14 PM

Not just icq............ icq LITE!!!!!!!!!

SexySarah · 05-28-2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Not just icq............ icq LITE!!!!!!!!!

holy macaroni

Kimmykim · 05-28-2003, 04:15 PM

Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

What is going on here?

Tipsy · 05-28-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunTzu

Too funny, I ran across this when I was checking on my contract too. They're still being decent about it, giving a discount if you're already registered with another processor. Hmm, how come the other guys aren't doing that?

Ummmm...no they're really not. They are charging $350 regardless of whether VISA are charging them or not. They're actually being VERY greedy.

Nysus · 05-28-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

What is going on here?

We keep our money in pillows!

Cheers,
Matt

gruffy · 05-28-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

What is going on here?

Idiot tax on any Canadian webmaster who believe they have to give them anything.

gruffy · 05-28-2003, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus

We keep our money in pillows!

Cheers,
Matt

Mine has been buried under the igloo for many moons.

Theo · 05-28-2003, 04:19 PM

spacedog was right about ldinternet

Kimmykim · 05-28-2003, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gruffy

Idiot tax on any Canadian webmaster who believe they have to give them anything.

Interesting turn of phrase there.

p00p · 05-28-2003, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

What is going on here?

KimmyKim, what do you suggest Canadian webmasters do? We are running out of processors to use Visa!

SexySarah · 05-28-2003, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
spacedog was right about ldinternet

one feta cheese salad please

Sly_RJ · 05-28-2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

Ummmm...no they're really not. They are charging $350 regardless of whether VISA are charging them or not. They're actually being VERY greedy.

Umm... yes, they really are. The other processors are charging $750, regardless of whether or not you have already paid the Visa fees to another processor. AC Pay is saying "ok, we're not going to charge you the Visa fees since you have already been charged once. BUT, we still need to charge you the $350 bank fees."

Kimmykim · 05-28-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

KimmyKim, what do you suggest Canadian webmasters do? We are running out of processors to use Visa!

Get a US presence. Don't fiddle with that EU stuff.

Tipsy · 05-28-2003, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Umm... yes, they really are. The other processors are charging $750, regardless of whether or not you have already paid the Visa fees to another processor. AC Pay is saying "ok, we're not going to charge you the Visa fees since you have already been charged once. BUT, we still need to charge you the $350 bank fees."

There was a couple of processors at least that DIDN'T charge the $750 if you were already registered when I was looking recently. I'm not going to search to see which but they are out there. The $350 is purely because ACPAY want $350 from people. No other reason to charge it.

SunTzu · 05-28-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

There was a couple of processors at least that DIDN'T charge the $750 if you were already registered when I was looking recently. I'm not going to search to see which but they are out there. The $350 is purely because ACPAY want $350 from people. No other reason to charge it.

Tipsy, would like to hear who those other processors are. So far every one has said the $750. fee is per processor. Jettis is the only one I know of now that is refunding the fees, as CCBill stopped their refunds.

Sly_RJ · 05-28-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

There was a couple of processors at least that DIDN'T charge the $750 if you were already registered when I was looking recently. I'm not going to search to see which but they are out there. The $350 is purely because ACPAY want $350 from people. No other reason to charge it.

CC Bill, and I believe Jettis as well. The fees were still paid, they were deducted from payouts over time, as I understand it. CC Bill got socked as well for doing that, which is why they stopped.

Tipsy · 05-28-2003, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

CC Bill, and I believe Jettis as well. The fees were still paid, they were deducted from payouts over time, as I understand it. CC Bill got socked as well for doing that, which is why they stopped.

Sorry but wrong. Look at CCBill again especially non-US. ACPay are charging $350 through greed and nothing else.

Tipsy · 05-28-2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunTzu

Tipsy, would like to hear who those other processors are. So far every one has said the $750. fee is per processor. Jettis is the only one I know of now that is refunding the fees, as CCBill stopped their refunds.

Must admit I may not have been clear enough and if so at fault. I was looking at it from a non-US point of view. However my point is still very valid. ACpay are charging everybody $350. They have no need to at the moment. Again, greed. For a good example of not charging $370, $750 or whatever for non-US go look at CCBill. The money isn't so much the point here as let's face it if you can't afford $350 you shouldn't be in business. However, that doesn't mean you'll want to give someone $350 just to line their pockets further.

hottoddy · 05-28-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clubsexy
My friend chose ACpay to avoid the 750.00....

It almost looks like AC Pay tried to attract large numbers of webmasters by delaying this announcement. At first, they were extolling the virtues of their fee-less system. Bait & switch? I hope not ...

ServerGenius · 05-28-2003, 05:07 PM

I guess the boards will be filled with bargains the coming weeks

DynaMite

p00p · 05-28-2003, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottoddy

It almost looks like AC Pay tried to attract large numbers of webmasters by delaying this announcement. At first, they were extolling the virtues of their fee-less system. Bait & switch? I hope not ...

http://www.aclounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=498
Imagine all the people that trusted them, and have affiliates, too, that are going to get fucked?

BJ · 05-28-2003, 05:15 PM

SexySarah · 05-28-2003, 05:17 PM

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Regards,

SexySarah

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SunTzu Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: the box Posts: 456	Looks like AC Pay got bit by VISA From the AC Pay lounge.. I guess there's no hiding from Visa. AC Pay was the most reliable of the holdouts... From the AC Pay lounge: ---------------------------------- Dear Webmasters, In the interests of retaining the continued good relationship with merchant banks and provide our clients with the best possible service, AC Pay will be implementing some significant changes over the coming weeks. These break down into two categories--Registration Fees and Site Content, respectively. REGISTRATION FEES: As of June 15, AC Pay will begin charging an annual registration fee to all clients. Clients outside of the United States and Canada will be subject to a $350 annual fee, while clients within the United States and Canada will be subject to a $750 fee. For clients doing business within the United States or Canada that have already registered with VISA through an IPSP, the $750 fee will be waived and they need only pay $350, with proper proof of registration. For clients with a certain transaction volume, AC Pay may, at it's discretion, waive some or all of the annual fees, on a per-case basis. Future clients will be required to pay fees to AC Pay before processing can begin. Existing clients will be sent a bill, as necessary. SITE CONTENT: We have already begun providing Webmasters with a number of simple steps to take to ensure that their sites comply with card association regulations. We will distribute these more widely in the coming weeks, As a reminder, AC Pay will not accept sites in any of the following categories: - Rape: any materials involving rape, simulated rape, forced sex or bondage with penetration. - Child Pornography: any materials involving persons under the age of 18, either ?actual? or suggested?. - Hate Crimes / Hate Propaganda - Pre-teen References: any references to ?Lolita? or ?Pre-Teen?. - Bestiality: any materials involving sex with animals. - Molestation - Incest - Inappropriate URL: any URL (domain, directory or file name) that implies any inappropriate content listed above. If you have any questions, please email [email protected]. We expect a large number of questions, so our response times may be slower than average for a few days, but we will get back to you. To protect the privacy and security of our clients, we will not respond to posts on this or other boards. Sincerely, Cormac Foster _________________ Senior Product Manager Business Development Team Last edited by SunTzu; 05-28-2003 at 02:56 PM..

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