TheButcher: scammer or not: Discuss - GoFuckYourself.com

fatfoo · 02-13-2009, 10:24 AM

Let's have some thoughts on this. I know some people have dealed with him and had problems. Well, out with it, let's have a discussion.

baddog · 02-13-2009, 10:27 AM

He is still around?

fatfoo · 02-13-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

He is still around?

Yes he is. He has a certain webmaster forum, as well. I won't post the link here, but probably some of you know.

fatfoo · 02-13-2009, 10:43 AM

Bump for more thoughts.

FreeHugeMovies · 02-13-2009, 10:44 AM

I've heard too much bad stuff about him. I refused to do a xfer for him and was cussed out. =]

BradM · 02-13-2009, 10:46 AM

We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady
Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay.

I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.

Barefootsies · 02-13-2009, 11:05 AM

Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to?

He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor.

BradM · 02-13-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to?

He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor.

Yep, the same. Claims to be British.

~Ray · 02-13-2009, 11:10 AM

he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags.

tranza · 02-13-2009, 11:27 AM

bump for more!

Barefootsies · 02-13-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags.

Ouch!!!!

Porko · 02-13-2009, 11:41 AM

He is an excelent person. Never had a problem..
I trust him 100%

CaptainHowdy · 02-13-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags.

Care to spill the whole can ??

John-ACWM · 02-13-2009, 12:52 PM

Know his forum, didn't hear anything bad...

pixovore · 02-13-2009, 01:19 PM

He always played it fair with us so far.
Got nothing to complain about him.
Cool guy.

Barefootsies · 02-13-2009, 01:24 PM

I've talked to him a few times here and there. I can't say anything bad about him. Before his board, I really did not know anything about him or his handle.

Sounds like some people know him a bit more in business dealings?

Klen · 02-13-2009, 01:26 PM

He loves to hire people to moderate his board for salary and then later he doesnt pay.

Barefootsies · 02-13-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

He loves to hire people to moderate his board for salary and then later he doesnt pay.

pocketkangaroo · 02-13-2009, 02:06 PM

Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?

tigermtb · 02-13-2009, 02:17 PM

About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

I didn't buy space.

fatfoo · 02-13-2009, 02:33 PM

Good replies so far, thanks for info, bump.

brassmonkey · 02-13-2009, 02:47 PM

i helped him jumpstart that forum hes always been straight up with me and paid me

Barefootsies · 02-13-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

I didn't buy space.

uvort · 02-13-2009, 02:56 PM

The business I've done with him in the past hasn't been bad. I bought some space on his board for advertising for dirt cheap, saw very little results. I've also done some epass transfers to him and I've always been paid back when he promised with a little extra tacked on.

Barefootsies · 02-13-2009, 03:00 PM

Well, from my experience. He has always been a straight up guy in my conversations with him. I have never done business with him, so I can't speak to that. I did not know he was famous until this thread.

Jman · 02-13-2009, 03:05 PM

I have no bad experience with the guy.

Klen · 02-13-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?

Yep there are several huge threads about him on GG&J

Just_Dave · 02-13-2009, 03:46 PM

i never had a problem with him he has always been very kind to me and straight up

fatfoo · 02-13-2009, 10:30 PM

My problem with him is that he is many months late on paying me.

Spunky · 02-13-2009, 10:40 PM

Haven't really dealt with him other than a few small trades.

stickyfingerz · 02-13-2009, 10:48 PM

He has helped me out many times in the past, and been a shoulder to lean on when I needed to talk. Good guy in my opinion.

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:19 AM

LOL

This guy is the biggest scammer on the net, he and his fake forum is just set up to rip people off.

Anyone who doesnt know this is a fucking retard

type in his fake forum name and scammer or his name and scammer into google and find 100's of threads on real webmaster forums about him. gg&j even use to phone the scammer up.

Apart from being a theif. He also runs a fake forum, with all his fake names, uk roy, ausie mac,la sammy, portorican pauline, (the guy loves putting a place name to make it sound real)....blah blah that he uses to scam some stupid advertisers that he has real posters.

He is not English like he claims, he is an Arab who lives in Canada.

If you cant be arsed to look at all the 1000's of threads of every webmaster forum about him, then do a search on this one.

Butcher=scammer

sc = his fake forum with his fake nics chating to his other fake nics to rip of advertisers who are stupid and done no research

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

He has helped me out many times in the past, and been a shoulder to lean on when I needed to talk. Good guy in my opinion.

Wow, then you must be fucking stupid

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

He is still around?

well the few cents he makes from scamming advertisers who dont know about his fake forum keeps him going

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady
Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay.

I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.

Did you not know his forum is a scam?Its all fake nics that he uses and then evengets them to sign up to his advertisers sites.

It wasnt a bad result you had. You was scammed

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porko

He is an excelent person. Never had a problem..
I trust him 100%

Peoplelike you deserve to be scammed

Retard

Trusting someone 100% who is a well known scammer with 100's and 100's of threads about him on all the main forums.

A fool and his money are easily departed

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?

yes, uses it to scam advertisers

papill0n · 02-14-2009, 01:28 AM

Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

I didn't buy space.

Notice how none of the main posters have no sigs? notice how you never see his main posters on any other forums? Notice how they all have fucking stupid names like UK Roy, Aussie Mac, LA Sammy........

Bloke is a scammer, cant believe he is still managing to get away with it.

Check GG&J about this scammer and his fake forum

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i helped him jumpstart that forum hes always been straight up with me and paid me

Helped him jumpstart it to what?

The biggest fake scam forum on the net who everyone laughs about?

LOL good job

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.

Shows a lot about you and your program

Dealing with a known scammer and then defending him when there are 1000's of people been scammed by him and 100's of posts on every real forum you post on.

Either you are happy to support a known scammer or are to stupid to do any research

Doesn't say alot about you or your program does it

papill0n · 02-14-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjlover

Shows a lot about you and your program

Dealing with a known scammer and then defending him when there are 1000's of people been scammed by him and 100's of posts on every real forum you post on.

Either you are happy to support a known scammer or are to stupid to do any research

Doesn't say alot about you or your program does it

It is not my program.

What I posted was my personal experience. Don't like it? Tough.

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo

My problem with him is that he is many months late on paying me.

Kiss the money good bye, or sometimes he pays people if they shout loud enough for long enough. But usually he just posts some shit denying the claims on his fake forum, backed up by his fake nics and then deletes any other posts anyone else makes.

A lesson learnt,do some research before you deal with people like this shit head.

Search on google and find 100's of threads about him and his fake forum

bjlover · 02-14-2009, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

It is not my program.

What I posted was my personal experience. Don't like it? Tough.

I do like.

Now I know you are happy to back up a KNOWN scammer and thats always good to know.

Good to know ragecash or whoever it is you are a the sandwich boy for, are happy to employ people who support known scammers

SGS · 02-14-2009, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?

That stuff and the phone call on gg&j was pure comedy genius and remember it like it was yesterday.

Sausage · 02-14-2009, 02:03 AM

Scammer ... 100% shadey as all hell.

Barefootsies · 02-14-2009, 03:42 AM

Damn. Some harsh words. Fucking brutal.

nekrom · 02-14-2009, 06:07 AM

Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots.

-N

Klen · 02-14-2009, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrom

Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots.

-N

The problem is he have 50/50 tactic-he scam 50 percent of people with who he doing biz,while he is honest with other 50 percent.And that causing those people defending him and not believing about his scamming.Also someone should dig gfy threads about him i think you can found here plenty of them too.

urb · 02-14-2009, 06:30 AM

Welcome to 2005

The truth is out there... just Google it.

02-13-2009, 10:24 AM	#1
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	TheButcher: scammer or not: Discuss Let's have some thoughts on this. I know some people have dealed with him and had problems. Well, out with it, let's have a discussion. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

02-13-2009, 10:43 AM	#4
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Bump for more thoughts. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

02-13-2009, 11:05 AM	#7
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to? He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

02-13-2009, 11:10 AM	#9
~Ray visit hardlinks.org Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas , Nv >>> [email protected] or icq 94994627 anytime Posts: 18,362	he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags. __________________ Adult Backlinks for Adult Websites - Testimonials Available

02-13-2009, 11:27 AM	#10
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	bump for more! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

02-13-2009, 10:27 AM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	He is still around?

02-13-2009, 10:44 AM	#5
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	I've heard too much bad stuff about him. I refused to do a xfer for him and was cussed out. =]

02-13-2009, 10:46 AM	#6
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay. I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.

02-13-2009, 11:41 AM	#12
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014	He is an excelent person. Never had a problem.. I trust him 100% __________________

02-13-2009, 12:52 PM	#14
John-ACWM Work Work Work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: EU Posts: 20,060	Know his forum, didn't hear anything bad... __________________ Video Chat Forum

02-13-2009, 01:19 PM	#15
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02-13-2009, 01:24 PM	#16
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	I've talked to him a few times here and there. I can't say anything bad about him. Before his board, I really did not know anything about him or his handle. Sounds like some people know him a bit more in business dealings? __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

02-13-2009, 01:26 PM	#17
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	He loves to hire people to moderate his board for salary and then later he doesnt pay.

02-13-2009, 02:06 PM	#19
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?

02-13-2009, 02:17 PM	#20
tigermtb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,062	About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program. He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either. I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy. I didn't buy space. __________________ Jay \| JuicyAds Founder Businessman of the Year [YNOT Awards 2013] The most awarded adult advertising network with 25+ XBIZ, GFY, and YNOT Awards. Last edited by tigermtb; 02-13-2009 at 02:19 PM..

02-13-2009, 02:33 PM	#21
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Good replies so far, thanks for info, bump. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

02-13-2009, 02:47 PM	#22
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,259	i helped him jumpstart that forum hes always been straight up with me and paid me __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

02-13-2009, 02:56 PM	#24
uvort Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Metalcash.com Posts: 3,580	The business I've done with him in the past hasn't been bad. I bought some space on his board for advertising for dirt cheap, saw very little results. I've also done some epass transfers to him and I've always been paid back when he promised with a little extra tacked on. __________________ See Sig. 199907143

02-13-2009, 03:00 PM	#25
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Well, from my experience. He has always been a straight up guy in my conversations with him. I have never done business with him, so I can't speak to that. I did not know he was famous until this thread. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

02-13-2009, 03:05 PM	#26
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,790	I have no bad experience with the guy. __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program Niche Dating Program PPS! FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

02-13-2009, 03:46 PM	#28
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	i never had a problem with him he has always been very kind to me and straight up

02-13-2009, 10:30 PM	#29
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	My problem with him is that he is many months late on paying me. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

02-13-2009, 10:40 PM	#30
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,949	Haven't really dealt with him other than a few small trades. __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

02-13-2009, 10:48 PM	#31
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	He has helped me out many times in the past, and been a shoulder to lean on when I needed to talk. Good guy in my opinion.

02-14-2009, 01:19 AM	#32
bjlover Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 514	LOL This guy is the biggest scammer on the net, he and his fake forum is just set up to rip people off. Anyone who doesnt know this is a fucking retard type in his fake forum name and scammer or his name and scammer into google and find 100's of threads on real webmaster forums about him. gg&j even use to phone the scammer up. Apart from being a theif. He also runs a fake forum, with all his fake names, uk roy, ausie mac,la sammy, portorican pauline, (the guy loves putting a place name to make it sound real)....blah blah that he uses to scam some stupid advertisers that he has real posters. He is not English like he claims, he is an Arab who lives in Canada. If you cant be arsed to look at all the 1000's of threads of every webmaster forum about him, then do a search on this one. Butcher=scammer sc = his fake forum with his fake nics chating to his other fake nics to rip of advertisers who are stupid and done no research

02-14-2009, 01:28 AM	#38
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.

02-14-2009, 02:03 AM	#46
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Scammer ... 100% shadey as all hell.

02-14-2009, 03:42 AM	#47
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Damn. Some harsh words. Fucking brutal. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

02-14-2009, 06:07 AM	#48
nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots. -N __________________ Free Traffic

02-14-2009, 06:30 AM	#50
urb Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 157	Welcome to 2005 The truth is out there... just Google it. __________________ Will hand code html for food.