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  • fatfoo
    ICQ:649699063
    • Mar 2003
    • 27763

    #1

    TheButcher: scammer or not: Discuss

    Let's have some thoughts on this. I know some people have dealed with him and had problems. Well, out with it, let's have a discussion.
    Send me an email: [email protected]
  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    He is still around?

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    • fatfoo
      ICQ:649699063
      • Mar 2003
      • 27763

      #3
      Originally posted by baddog
      He is still around?
      Yes he is. He has a certain webmaster forum, as well. I won't post the link here, but probably some of you know.
      Send me an email: [email protected]

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      • fatfoo
        ICQ:649699063
        • Mar 2003
        • 27763

        #4
        Bump for more thoughts.
        Send me an email: [email protected]

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        • FreeHugeMovies
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2001
          • 14141

          #5
          I've heard too much bad stuff about him. I refused to do a xfer for him and was cussed out. =]

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          • BradM
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2003
            • 3397

            #6
            We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady
            Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay.

            I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.

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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #7
              Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to?

              He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor.
              Should You Email Your Members?

              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

              Enough Said.

              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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              • BradM
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2003
                • 3397

                #8
                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to?

                He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor.
                Yep, the same. Claims to be British.

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                • ~Ray
                  visit hardlinks.org
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 18361

                  #9
                  he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags.
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                  • tranza
                    ICQ: 197-556-237
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 57559

                    #10
                    bump for more!
                    I'm just a newbie.

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
                      he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags.
                      Ouch!!!!
                      Should You Email Your Members?

                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                      Enough Said.

                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                      • Porko
                        SeeMyBucks.com
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 4014

                        #12
                        He is an excelent person. Never had a problem..
                        I trust him 100%

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                        • CaptainHowdy
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 94727

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
                          he and his partner joe brandi of heat party, inc are pure shit bags.
                          Care to spill the whole can ??

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                          • John-ACWM
                            Work Work Work
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 20060

                            #14
                            Know his forum, didn't hear anything bad...

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                            • pixovore
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2005
                              • 1128

                              #15
                              He always played it fair with us so far.
                              Got nothing to complain about him.
                              Cool guy.
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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                I've talked to him a few times here and there. I can't say anything bad about him. Before his board, I really did not know anything about him or his handle.

                                Sounds like some people know him a bit more in business dealings?
                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                Enough Said.

                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                • Klen
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 32235

                                  #17
                                  He loves to hire people to moderate his board for salary and then later he doesnt pay.

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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                    He loves to hire people to moderate his board for salary and then later he doesnt pay.
                                    Should You Email Your Members?

                                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                    Enough Said.

                                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                    • pocketkangaroo
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2005
                                      • 8452

                                      #19
                                      Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?

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                                      • tigermtb
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 1062

                                        #20
                                        About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

                                        He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

                                        I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

                                        I didn't buy space.
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                                        • fatfoo
                                          ICQ:649699063
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 27763

                                          #21
                                          Good replies so far, thanks for info, bump.
                                          Send me an email: [email protected]

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                                          • brassmonkey
                                            Pay It Forward
                                            • Sep 2005
                                            • 77396

                                            #22
                                            i helped him jumpstart that forum hes always been straight up with me and paid me
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                                            • Barefootsies
                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 42635

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by tigermtb
                                              About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

                                              He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

                                              I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

                                              I didn't buy space.
                                              Should You Email Your Members?

                                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                              Enough Said.

                                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                              • uvort
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 3580

                                                #24
                                                The business I've done with him in the past hasn't been bad. I bought some space on his board for advertising for dirt cheap, saw very little results. I've also done some epass transfers to him and I've always been paid back when he promised with a little extra tacked on.
                                                See Sig.
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                                                • Barefootsies
                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 42635

                                                  #25
                                                  Well, from my experience. He has always been a straight up guy in my conversations with him. I have never done business with him, so I can't speak to that. I did not know he was famous until this thread.
                                                  Should You Email Your Members?

                                                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                  Enough Said.

                                                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                  • Jman
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 22837

                                                    #26
                                                    I have no bad experience with the guy.
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                                                    • Klen
                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 32235

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                      Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?
                                                      Yep there are several huge threads about him on GG&J

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                                                      • Just_Dave
                                                        Its almost time
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 13009

                                                        #28
                                                        i never had a problem with him he has always been very kind to me and straight up

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                                                        • fatfoo
                                                          ICQ:649699063
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 27763

                                                          #29
                                                          My problem with him is that he is many months late on paying me.
                                                          Send me an email: [email protected]

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                                                          • Spunky
                                                            I need a beer
                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                            • 133986

                                                            #30
                                                            Haven't really dealt with him other than a few small trades.

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                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                              Doin fine
                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                              • 24984

                                                              #31
                                                              He has helped me out many times in the past, and been a shoulder to lean on when I needed to talk. Good guy in my opinion.

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                                                              • bjlover
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2006
                                                                • 514

                                                                #32
                                                                LOL

                                                                This guy is the biggest scammer on the net, he and his fake forum is just set up to rip people off.

                                                                Anyone who doesnt know this is a fucking retard

                                                                type in his fake forum name and scammer or his name and scammer into google and find 100's of threads on real webmaster forums about him. gg&j even use to phone the scammer up.

                                                                Apart from being a theif. He also runs a fake forum, with all his fake names, uk roy, ausie mac,la sammy, portorican pauline, (the guy loves putting a place name to make it sound real)....blah blah that he uses to scam some stupid advertisers that he has real posters.

                                                                He is not English like he claims, he is an Arab who lives in Canada.

                                                                If you cant be arsed to look at all the 1000's of threads of every webmaster forum about him, then do a search on this one.

                                                                Butcher=scammer

                                                                sc = his fake forum with his fake nics chating to his other fake nics to rip of advertisers who are stupid and done no research
                                                                Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                • bjlover
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                  • 514

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                  He has helped me out many times in the past, and been a shoulder to lean on when I needed to talk. Good guy in my opinion.
                                                                  Wow, then you must be fucking stupid
                                                                  Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                  • bjlover
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                                    • 514

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    He is still around?
                                                                    well the few cents he makes from scamming advertisers who dont know about his fake forum keeps him going
                                                                    Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                    • bjlover
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                      • 514

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                                                      We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady
                                                                      Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay.

                                                                      I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.
                                                                      Did you not know his forum is a scam?Its all fake nics that he uses and then evengets them to sign up to his advertisers sites.

                                                                      It wasnt a bad result you had. You was scammed
                                                                      Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                      • bjlover
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Nov 2006
                                                                        • 514

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Porko
                                                                        He is an excelent person. Never had a problem..
                                                                        I trust him 100%
                                                                        Peoplelike you deserve to be scammed

                                                                        Retard


                                                                        Trusting someone 100% who is a well known scammer with 100's and 100's of threads about him on all the main forums.

                                                                        A fool and his money are easily departed
                                                                        Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                        • bjlover
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                          • 514

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                          Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?
                                                                          yes, uses it to scam advertisers
                                                                          Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                          • papill0n
                                                                            Unregistered Abuser
                                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                                            • 15547

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.

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                                                                            • bjlover
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                              • 514

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by tigermtb
                                                                              About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

                                                                              He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

                                                                              I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

                                                                              I didn't buy space.
                                                                              Notice how none of the main posters have no sigs? notice how you never see his main posters on any other forums? Notice how they all have fucking stupid names like UK Roy, Aussie Mac, LA Sammy........

                                                                              Bloke is a scammer, cant believe he is still managing to get away with it.

                                                                              Check GG&J about this scammer and his fake forum
                                                                              Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                              • bjlover
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2006
                                                                                • 514

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                                                i helped him jumpstart that forum hes always been straight up with me and paid me
                                                                                Helped him jumpstart it to what?

                                                                                The biggest fake scam forum on the net who everyone laughs about?


                                                                                LOL good job
                                                                                Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                                • bjlover
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                  • 514

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by RageCash-Ben
                                                                                  Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.
                                                                                  Shows a lot about you and your program

                                                                                  Dealing with a known scammer and then defending him when there are 1000's of people been scammed by him and 100's of posts on every real forum you post on.

                                                                                  Either you are happy to support a known scammer or are to stupid to do any research

                                                                                  Doesn't say alot about you or your program does it
                                                                                  Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                                  • papill0n
                                                                                    Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                                                    • 15547

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by bjlover
                                                                                    Shows a lot about you and your program

                                                                                    Dealing with a known scammer and then defending him when there are 1000's of people been scammed by him and 100's of posts on every real forum you post on.

                                                                                    Either you are happy to support a known scammer or are to stupid to do any research

                                                                                    Doesn't say alot about you or your program does it

                                                                                    It is not my program.

                                                                                    What I posted was my personal experience. Don't like it? Tough.

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                                                                                    • bjlover
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                                      • 514

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by fatfoo
                                                                                      My problem with him is that he is many months late on paying me.
                                                                                      Kiss the money good bye, or sometimes he pays people if they shout loud enough for long enough. But usually he just posts some shit denying the claims on his fake forum, backed up by his fake nics and then deletes any other posts anyone else makes.

                                                                                      A lesson learnt,do some research before you deal with people like this shit head.

                                                                                      Search on google and find 100's of threads about him and his fake forum
                                                                                      Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                                      • bjlover
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2006
                                                                                        • 514

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by RageCash-Ben
                                                                                        It is not my program.

                                                                                        What I posted was my personal experience. Don't like it? Tough.
                                                                                        I do like.

                                                                                        Now I know you are happy to back up a KNOWN scammer and thats always good to know.

                                                                                        Good to know ragecash or whoever it is you are a the sandwich boy for, are happy to employ people who support known scammers
                                                                                        Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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                                                                                        • SGS
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 5176

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                          Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?
                                                                                          That stuff and the phone call on gg&j was pure comedy genius and remember it like it was yesterday.
                                                                                          See sig...

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                                                                                          • Sausage
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 3012

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Scammer ... 100% shadey as all hell.
                                                                                            IW
                                                                                            Skype : blance8888
                                                                                            Icq : 15567120

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                                                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 42635

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Damn. Some harsh words. Fucking brutal.
                                                                                              Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                                              Enough Said.

                                                                                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                                              • nekrom
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 921

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots.

                                                                                                -N
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                                                                                                • Klen
                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                  • 32235

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by nekrom
                                                                                                  Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots.

                                                                                                  -N
                                                                                                  The problem is he have 50/50 tactic-he scam 50 percent of people with who he doing biz,while he is honest with other 50 percent.And that causing those people defending him and not believing about his scamming.Also someone should dig gfy threads about him i think you can found here plenty of them too.

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                                                                                                  • urb
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                    • 157

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Welcome to 2005

                                                                                                    The truth is out there... just Google it.
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