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Old 03-16-2024, 05:14 AM   #1
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:mad Google bans all AI-generated content - the sky is falling!



I decided to write this post inspired by a question from someone who made the following points:

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Scaled content abuse
We’ve long had a policy against using automation to generate low-quality or unoriginal content at scale with the goal of manipulating search rankings. This policy was originally designed to address instances of content being generated at scale where it was clear that automation was involved.

https://developers.google.com/search...policies?hl=en

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Our long-standing spam policy has been that use of automation, including generative AI, is spam if the primary purpose is manipulating ranking in Search results.
This is the information that should be considered and conclusions drawn. However, most webmasters reacted to this news as if it were the end of the world, with sentiments such as "all is lost", "the sky is falling", "life has no meaning", "we're gonna die".

In reality, of course, this is not the case. Google has once again repeated that it will ban spam. But hasn't it always done that? Now, this applies not only to "articles" written by third-world copywriters, but also to content generated by AI. Are you surprised?

Google does not claim to be against AI-generated content. It clearly states that machine-generated spam will be de-indexed. However, this definitely does not apply to quality content that provides useful information. Remember that Google itself is the developer of the Gemini AI model, which it says was created to improve the quality of articles on the web. The same is being done by Bing's owner, Microsoft, which is investing billions in the development of OpenAI's GPT.

Isn't it curious that the companies that own the largest search engines profit from selling AI models created for content generation? Quite a coincidence, isn't it? And will they really penalize their own content? Does anyone really think that the business operates on such a strange model?

In fact, it's worth taking a moment to understand what's really happening and how you can use it to your advantage. The reality is that probably 99% of people who decide to use AI for content generation have no idea what they're getting into. They think of AI as a magic wand that will write content for them personally, not taking into account the millions of other "geniuses" who have been struck by the same idea and expect to instantly hit the top of Google's SERP.

But they won't If you ask GPT to write an article about the health benefits of cold showers, what you'll get is essentially doorway page spam. It will be a short, generic text with no formatting and, most importantly, no meaning. It's basically a copy-paste of standard advice and facts. Google will certainly penalize this.

To generate quality content, i.e., full-fledged articles that make sense, you need to write appropriate prompts. OpenAI's GPT-4, for example, has "learned" the entire internet, and its "brain" definitely contains enough useful information to write an article on any topic. The thing is how to extract it, which requires leaving the right, detailed prompts. Modern text models like GPT-4 Turbo, Anthropic Claude 3, and soon Google Gemini 1.5, have a huge context window for incoming data - your prompts. Thus, you can provide them with a whole book of very detailed instructions.

Your prompt should specify the overall structure of your articles, the information to be included in the final text, the style of presentation, or even an authorial voice - maybe you want the article to be written by Stephen King, or maybe you prefer the conspiratorial trash talk of Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan? Modern language models can do this too - they are familiar with these personal styles.

Be sure to include in your prompt the HTML structure of your article. Tell the language model which HTML tags it should use. Give it examples of different <div> blocks in your article, used by your WordPress theme to style various Q&A, FAQ, Pros and Cons sections, etc. Provide examples of HTML templates for styling tables, inserting images, and video embeds. Create a comprehensive specification for formatting HTML documents and submit it to the language model as part of your prompt.

Creating large articles with coherent content and exceeding the 4K token limit is something that can be done with the CyberSEO Pro plugin, which can generate articles up to 128K tokens, the size of an average book.

Regarding the indexing of AI-generated articles by search engines like Google, check the articles on cyberseo.net. The fact that articles generated with GPT-4 are indexed and even rank well for common queries such as "where to get images for an autoblog?" proves my statement. This is a compelling example that counters the common belief that Google categorically penalizes machine-generated content. Instead, it suggests that Google's algorithms are sophisticated enough to distinguish between spammy, low-effort AI content and high-quality, AI-generated content that provides real value to readers.

To members of this forum I would recommend using the Mistral Large, since its capabilities are very similar to those of GPT-4, with the added advantage of handling (analyzing and generating) texts up to 32K tokens in length. Most importantly, Mistral Large is uncensored. Yes, you've got it right.

Regarding concerns about content being flagged as AI-generated, the suggestion of using a synonymizer is intriguing. By creating a custom synonym table - because a list of typical words and phrases for your niche is rather limited - you can effectively mask the AI origin of your content. This method disrupts the typical patterns that GPT detectors look for and breaks the GPT flow, potentially avoiding detection as machine-generated content. While this approach doesn't inherently improve the quality of the text, it does provide a workaround for those who want to minimize the likelihood of their content being identified as AI-generated.
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Another part of the paper deals with several companies I've seen who've boosted DA and traffic using expired domains. Now it states

Expired domain abuse
Occasionally, expired domains are purchased and repurposed with the primary intention of boosting search ranking of low-quality or unoriginal content. This can mislead users into thinking the new content is part of the older site, which may not be the case. Expired domains that are purchased and repurposed with the intention of boosting the search ranking of low-quality content are now considered spam.


So depending on AI and expired domains may not be the easy way out rather a tricky game you're playing with Google.

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Expired domain abuse
Occasionally, expired domains are purchased and repurposed with the primary intention of boosting search ranking of low-quality or unoriginal content. This can mislead users into thinking the new content is part of the older site, which may not be the case. Expired domains that are purchased and repurposed with the intention of boosting the search ranking of low-quality content are now considered spam.
Google's policy on expired domains is pretty clear, but the essence of my post is about something else. It's about using language models to generate content, not spam. Check out this page: https://www.cyberseo.net/cyberseo-pro-api-functions/

This page describes the API functions of the plugin. This entire description was generated by OpenAI GPT-3.5, not even GPT-4, but a less powerful version. It was automatically generated according to my prompt, which contained a fixed HTML template for documenting each API function, as well as the PHP code of the function itself. The prompt did not include my descriptions. It contained only the code of each function and an HTML template for formatting. GPT-3.5 analyzed each piece of code and generated its description (I emphasize - completely independently) according to the HTML template given in the same prompt.

As you can see, this documentation page is indexed by Google. It is not penalized and certainly not de-indexed. All because it contains useful information (documentation on the CyberSEO Pro plugin API for PHP coders) and is not considered spam. The whole secret of this trick is a well-written prompt.

I might go crazy writting this kind of documentation with the same HTML formatting if I tried to write it manually, by myself, function by function...

P.S. GPT-3.5 has even made a navigation block for it
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the first step is to stop this AI shit and return to humans. +1 for google with this update
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ok, that is great. so, with my broken engrish, i will getting banned because google will think its ai? or how he find out? because i am not born english i will getting penalised? holy shit ... about the ai, you have to learn how to use it, how to give it commands to get some good results, so great waste of time for those who spent time and learned ai already ... also, about the domains, if you get some solid domain in auction, it tooks you money nowadays, so great way how to just let those hq domains killed if someone abandon them. just another stupid update, google can finally kill itself so people will start using bing, where are much more accurate results lately ...
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the first step is to stop this AI shit and return to humans. +1 for google with this update
I disagree. AI is a fantastic tool that if used properly should not have its content ignored or flagged by Google.
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I disagree. AI is a fantastic tool that if used properly should not have its content ignored or flagged by Google.
This is exactly what my post was about. This is a tool designed to improve the article writing process. Google itself provides its own Gemini AI model for this very purpose, and literally says - use it to make your content better.

Unfortunately, a lot of people are starting to use it to generate spam. Not to produce quality content. Not to improve existing content. They just started abusing it to mass produce garbage doorways. They used to do this with Markov chains, Spintax, low quality spinners, etc. Now they just changed the tool, but kept the same goal - spam generation. Of course, the search engines started to fight against this.

In fact, nothing bad happened. Google de-indexes spam, but it has nothing against quality content generated by AI text models. The solution is as simple as not using the lame tools that don't even allow you to compose your own prompts and control the HTML structure of your articles.

Stop using the scripts and online services that generate images using old graphic AI models. I know those who work in the adult niche are not affected by this problem because they import all their media content from the sponsored feeds, but if you work in the mainstream, you definitely need quality images.

Maybe you have seen all those AI generated articles with weird images like an Asian guy wearing a backpack with another Asian guy's head sticking out of it. You will close such a page immediately and everyone else will do the same, so the guy who posted that garbage on his site will be surprised why the page was de-indexed because of a mad bounce rate... Do not underestimate the importance of images - do it the right way.

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The march update hit mostly LAZY sites

No editing

just generate, scrape, paste, repeat.

Also, they are over reliant on PBNs with the same content strategy

I'm surprised it took this long for Google to catch up

I pass all my materials through ZEROGPT to ensure compliance plus we write everything by hand and don't use PBNs
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I pass all my materials through ZEROGPT to ensure compliance plus we write everything by hand and don't use PBNs
All these GPT detectors are easily fooled. A simple 100-200 line synonym table makes them think it's 100% human written content because it breaks the GPT flow. Here is a text generated by old GPT-3.5model after post-processing with a synonymizer.

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Another part of the paper deals with several companies I've seen who've boosted DA and traffic using expired domains. Now it states

Expired domain abuse
Occasionally, expired domains are purchased and repurposed with the primary intention of boosting search ranking of low-quality or unoriginal content. This can mislead users into thinking the new content is part of the older site, which may not be the case. Expired domains that are purchased and repurposed with the intention of boosting the search ranking of low-quality content are now considered spam.


So depending on AI and expired domains may not be the easy way out rather a tricky game you're playing with Google.

Thanks for the update
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They'll change their minds. In 10 years, everything will be AI-generated. Google will have no choice but to accept AI content.
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They'll change their minds. In 10 years, everything will be AI-generated. Google will have no choice but to accept AI content.
You didn't read my post Actually, they didn't ban AI content at all. That was a rumor, and of course it was false, because yes - AI-generated content is already everywhere, and search engines have to live with it.

Don't forget that both Google and Microsoft (the company that owns Bing) are distributing their own AI text models. They are not idiots to ban content that is the product of their own commercial services.

BTW, did you know that the following AI text models are available for free through the CyberSEO Pro plugin?

- Nous: Capybara 7B
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All these GPT detectors are easily fooled. A simple 100-200 line synonym table makes them think it's 100% human written content because it breaks the GPT flow. Here is a text generated by old GPT-3.5model after post-processing with a synonymizer.

It is one benchmark. Even undetectable.ai is also fooled.
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It is one benchmark. Even undetectable.ai is also fooled.
3 different benchmarks, and that was a very simple synonym table for less than 100 entries (text lines) as far as I remember.
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I know this is an adult webmaster forum, but since it is firstly for webmasters, many also do mainstream business. So maybe this new AI Autoblogger plugin will be useful for someone.

The key features:
  1. Support for all major AI language models: OpenAI GPT-4 Turbo, Google Gemini Pro 1.5, Anthropic Claude 3 (Sonnet and Opus) and Mistral Large. These models work both directly through their official API and through the unified API of OpenRouter.
  2. Ability to generate very large articles of 300+ pages of typewritten text, overcoming the limitations of modern models that output 4K and 8K tokens at a time.
  3. Direct work with user prompts. The plugin does not have all sorts of checkboxes, drop-down menus and switches for selecting the style and manner of writing articles, as well as selecting the HTML elements that will be included in them (such as "bold keywords", "add tables", etc.). The user himself writes all this in his GPT prompt in ordinary human language, as if he were giving a task to a living copywriter.
  4. Support for all three popular services and models for generating images (illustrations for articles): Midjourney, Stable Diffusion XL and DALL-E 3. The user can write his own image generation prompts directly, or he can activate the automatic mode, in which the plugin analyzes each text block in front of which he wants to insert an image, creates an appropriate prompt for the same Midjourney based on the context, and generates an appropriate image.
  5. Spintax support. In all its prompts, the user can use Spintax to get a random result with a random prompt when generating each new article.

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Interesting. With the rumor of OpenAI launching a search engine shortly, they better get with the program or lag behind.
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This is exactly what my post was about. This is a tool designed to improve the article writing process. Google itself provides its own Gemini AI model for this very purpose, and literally says - use it to make your content better.

Unfortunately, a lot of people are starting to use it to generate spam. Not to produce quality content. Not to improve existing content. They just started abusing it to mass produce garbage doorways. They used to do this with Markov chains, Spintax, low quality spinners, etc. Now they just changed the tool, but kept the same goal - spam generation. Of course, the search engines started to fight against this.

In fact, nothing bad happened. Google de-indexes spam, but it has nothing against quality content generated by AI text models. The solution is as simple as not using the lame tools that don't even allow you to compose your own prompts and control the HTML structure of your articles.

Stop using the scripts and online services that generate images using old graphic AI models. I know those who work in the adult niche are not affected by this problem because they import all their media content from the sponsored feeds, but if you work in the mainstream, you definitely need quality images.

Maybe you have seen all those AI generated articles with weird images like an Asian guy wearing a backpack with another Asian guy's head sticking out of it. You will close such a page immediately and everyone else will do the same, so the guy who posted that garbage on his site will be surprised why the page was de-indexed because of a mad bounce rate... Do not underestimate the importance of images - do it the right way.

nice i worte my own blog robot i use fooocus mine creates featured image. I am working on generating images per paragraph.
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