I have...and no dancing around it. Please quote where you asked the question twice.

taking action is never an easy course.


For eight years Clinton didnt do much on foreign affairs, slashed cia fbi military budget, didnt take revenge for various terroist attacks, cut a sweetheart deal with north korea.

Are we better off because of that. I say no.

If Gore were president for 4 or 8 years and continued the same policy, would we be better off. I think it would compound the problems face by double.


The weasels like France, German, Russia are pissy because we wont lay down for them. They love guys like Clinton and Jimmy Carter because they know they will never do anything.

Come now if all you can seize on is the "fries" thing?

That was just a way for some people to try to express displeasure...

I think our SELECTED, Tin-Can-Cowboy President has much more interesting and long reaching plans to deal with the French...

I find it amusing that the only forum in which France's opinion had any bearing has become marginalized by Chirac.... So now when you grand stand in the Security Council, it no longer means anything.... because UNLIKE France, the US CAN operate unilateraly.


Hey you guys have history to fall back upon, you were a superpower at one time.... some countries never even have that.

Oh and when compairing politicians, I would not be to proud of Chirac.... he is one of the most corrupt politicans in modern French history... and that is quite and achievement.

Well.. oddly, I ain't French... you don't seem to see I was having fun in a warped way??

But.. I got nuthing against the French.. in fact they have a lot to offer. But, they can be a big pain in the ass sometimes when "dealing", - but they have valid points and some actual principles. Tis a pity when some lack any diplomacy to deal with them and run off and not even speak to em for months, behaving like spoilt brats, - just like the "thing" in the Whitehouse.

Labret, nice car.... Escalade is a great ride... I cannot wait to get mine back from the shop!!

Oh Webby, you GOT me....

You are one wiley coyote....

Have trouble with the truth? You gonna keep playing me??

Such a cunning person you are.... will you teach me how to be as smooth as you??

HAHAHAHA

Bottom line is, you are a liar and ashamed of your heritage... you want to try to have a debate, and make it one way without letting us put a spot light on your country of orgin...

It is ok webby, I am sure at night you feel like a big guy....

Webby resides in this secret utopia and does not want it to become known to the masses.

Oh shit.. I love that one! You ain't even got a politican in the Whitehouse! :Graucho There is a saying about throwing stones and living in glass houses, - or is that glass bubbles?

You got the "con" of the century in the US at the moment and you talk about other countries?? DUH? :glugglug

Now you got that "almost" right... but we also have many of your countrymen here as well enjoying "actual" freedom :glugglug

PS! And a good few of em are amazed by "Utopia" !!!

Oh bullocks Mike... get a life, - I'm sure you would appreciate it!!:Graucho

He must me the "con" of the century as he is loved by the American people...somewhere around 70% approval rating...and will be reelected unless he fumbles the ball as badly as his father did.

King, I think Webby lives in world that he created in his mind...

Webby do you hear voices??

I feel bad now for making fun of someone with serious issues. You know as an American, we have passed laws to protect people in your special situation... we call it ADA... it is the law of the land.

Sorry little fella....

In my lifetime I have always done as I choose to do and the power of the government has not come down on me as of this point in time...so I too enjoy my "actual" freedom. Well...this is not quite true...I have had a couple of traffic tickets...so I guess my status is that of being oppressed.

Lets use the neutron bomb, that would leave the buildings intact, for whoever wants to live there after

That only shows ya how much of a con he is... and says volumes about the US media.. or is that the "Whitehouse spokesperson"?

Most decent journalists don't even send articles to the US media, - they stopped paying the postage a good few years back.

If it still ain't recognized for what it is in the US, - there ain't much I can say to persuade Mr Middle America... Just hope reality hits sometime! Tis a farce! :glugglug

Only thing I can equate it to is some kinda "bubble" folks live in... but, there are many who know better as well, so some hope!

On Webby??? Does he really deserve such severe treatment?

Just make sure ya keep it that way!!:glugglug

Mmmm.. them tickets... yea damned liberty!

Sheesh.. another lost soul who skipped school....

Yes, I will indicate in the strong affirmative that I do in fact unequivocally and without a shaddow of a doubt, am absolutely 1005 certain that I very much would like fries with that.

Yeah I know in Webbyland, the WebbyMedia is well respected and reports everything that needs to get out to the fine citizen.


Yes all the great journalist left the United States to go work for The Webbyland Times. I think they are going to hire Jayson Blair next week.


Yes the most powerful Nation in the world is a farce, the citizens are ignorant masses, who walk around like zombies. It is the elnightened people of Webbyland who will one day wake up Mr. Middle America to "Reality".

Yes the fine folks of Webbyland have moved from the "bubble" to the cardboard box, they like to call it never never land. It is the duty of brilliant people like Webby to share their insights with us in the bubble, because they "know better".

You know as I type this out, I have just noticed that Webby is right... I am living in a bubble... it is a cage of deceit and lies. King, wake up... lets get out of the bubble... lets go to Webbyland.... so we can be one of the people who "know better"

Webby you are very wise... what are you doing on GFY? You should be at the UN, or writing books, or something...

Thank you for helping me get out of the bubble....

Why don't you ask the same question to yourself? Idiot.

If you are from another country and think differently, maybe you are as much biased if you live in USA and are a fucking religio.. errr patriotic bitch.

The fact is that most americans have no idea of what they are talking about when it comes to international versus european or canadians.

Ya got *anything* relevant to say??? Or is it kinda limited? :Graucho

Say what?

I asked him some time ago to tell me where this Utopia is but he would not. If I recall correctly (and I may not...I do not feel like running a search) he said you do not have to pay taxes in this Utopia. Maybe he is from that planet called....well help me out here.

Indigo, I think it is aparent where I am from.

I take pride in being an American Citizen... and while my Nation is not perfect, it is still the best Nation in the world.

And yes I am BIASED, there is no doubt about it, but unliked the other biased non-Americans slamming my Nation, I can admit it.

Every nation has a roll to play, and gets the gov't and leadership they deserve...

So where are you from Indigo? What are YOUR Biases? Can you admit them?

Any chance you live in Webbyland?? Maybe you can help the King and I get out of the bubble....

King, I wonder if there is a Webby-Disney in Webbyland??

Of course...after all it is a Utopia...and what is a Utopia without a Disney World? Come to think of it doesn't the nick Webby remind you of a Disney character?

Mike... get a grip!

I like where I stay as well... and, to a lesser extent, through personal perference, the country where I was born. That don't mean I an "unpatriotic" or any of that bullshit.

But.. one thing I sure ain't going to do is run around waving flags and swearing some oath to any country.

As for the US, I do not dislike the US in any way - nor the people there. I have many good friends in US and lived there for some time.

Also.. I am not, as you seem to think, any "US hater", - that is yet another common niche from someone who ain't got a clue.

It does not matter one fuck where anyone is from. But the moment countries like the US "intrude" on the world of others, they lost the right not to be "discussed".

As for my "hate"... it ain't hate, but comprises of utterly despising the "rogue regime" which currently exists in the US. At this same time, I sure understand why a "war on terror" arose. But that is not a blank check for a total imbecile to drain the US coffers and go on another fruitless adventure to "preserve our freedoms" on the basis of a pack of lies. This is little more than a cover to hold a nation together as a "war president" and avoid disclosing basic truths and dealing with them. It is a regime which cannot even communicate with the elected houses of government. It is the worst government in the Western world at this time and this goverment is definately the biggest threat to world peace - it supercedes any "terrorist organization" by miles.

So.. I ain't gonna cheer on any country and rant about "patriotism" of US or my own, but I will appreciate any country that behaves for the common good of all.

Maybe the difference is.. I ain't biased! :Graucho

No there ain't no Disneyland here thanks... more imbecile chat I see!:Graucho Keep living in your bubble!

Webby, I think we can agree on one thing...

One of us is living in a bubble...

:Graucho

Still more imbecile crap?... I notice you never actually pick up *any* points you care to discuss... that says a lot about the bubble! :Graucho

Tis also a sad reflection on how skin deep things are... I know all of your countrymen ain't that thick tho! Thank God...

We are ALL biased at a different degree, including me from Canada.

Your question was just pointless.

IMHO, religion and patriotism is the same fucking bullshit as Nazis. We should get rid of religions and flags to become "people of the world"

But humans are too damn stupids.

You made my point for me Indigo... I just wanted to see what biases Webby, you and the others had. :)



:edit had to fix my quotes.

Mike - It is clear what you think and want to know about people is totally irrelevant.. you have demonstated there ain't much in that pea brain to warrant any discussion - sorry!

Webby, I just asked a simple question. Hoped for an honest, simple anwer...

I will not trouble you an farther with my pea brain.... I know you have imprtant work to do in the Eutopia of Webbyland!

GOOD! :Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And how many nations have you been to Mike?

Joe, mom went to sleep, back on the laptop?

22 off the top of my head.... Want me to list them? I can post some family vacation photos.

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The point about 9/11 is not where individual hijackers come from. The point of 9/11 is...attacks on the continental USA will not be tolerated...and the terrorists are from Muslim countries.

There were multiple reasons for the invasion of Iraq and one of those reasons was to send a message to the Muslim countries...get your act together or face the consequences. The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one, if they are perceived to be hostile towards the USA...including Saudi Arabia.
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so what happens when an asian decides to blow up a part of the usa? will we go after all asian countries too, or will we just have "diplomatic talks" with the country where he/she is from?



your response


If you would have paid attention to my previous posts you would have learned that I am speaking about those Muslim countries or any other country that is overtly hostile to the USA and/or provides safe harbor/financial aid to those that are.

Sheesh.. I missed that bit! Fine, you are entitled to be proud.. can you name a reason tho?

No nation is perfect... we seem to agree on that! But I notice this blinding bias creeping in after that..... "best Nation" with a capital N no less!! :Graucho Ya on something Mike??

Sorry.. but ya could not pay me to be a "subject" in the some bananna republic where the management are on coke power trip and cannot even manage the place with any competence!

Yes please, also list how much time you spent there are where you stayed.

Thanks in advance.

Things must be slow in Webbyland, the President is back and trying to start a discusion with the pea brain!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Joe... your quote:

Nationalism is an infantile disease, the measles of mankind.
-- Albert Einstein

Oddly Albert Einstein lived in the US... and was rounded each day cos there was some "fear" of him from govt circles :Graucho

Shows ya how this neurotic disease can affect some! :Graucho

Still more superficial meaningless dribble ya thought up Mike??

At least a day in *any* school could have equipped you for this life ya got :Graucho

Nationalism is a sickness.

Pity those who are afflicted.

Ya reckon? *lol*

Another...
Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious.
--- Oscar Wilde

You guys are so clever....

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson


Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.
-- Bertrand Russell


Look I can find cool quotes on the net too!!!!

Glad there is no rising nationalism in Webbyland... they could conquer us who live in the "bubble"!! I will be able to sleep tonight, knowing there is not threat from Webbyland...

My... you are clever! The difference may be I never looked up some net site to use that quote - unlike some of the more "intelligent" here! :Graucho

Yes.. you sleep well tonight - I can assure you there will be no attack from Webbyland tonight, - so turn down that terrorist level dial and rest in peace! :Graucho

Are there more of "you" who live in a bubble??? Shit.. I never realized this was so prevalent!