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A good SITREP.

look, JoeDickpack's mom gave him back his laptop.

You are living in a dream world..

He lives in the real world...so it must be you that is living in a dream world?

One thing is sure! I m not living in the same world that you.:Graucho

Wrong, if you stopped supporting Israel it would change, in time. But then you have to think what your politicians will do without the money they get from Israels backers.

And then where next, according to theking it's the whole muslim nation.

Not according to the news today, they are trying to distabilize Iran. Is the US going to stabilize it the same way as in Indo China after the Vietnam war?

Who's troops and who's money?

As sort of world dictatorship?

Let's take out Iran... we can use afghanistan as a base for troops on one side, and iraq for a base for troops on the other side...

just line up some m1a1'a on each side, and let 'em crunch in the middle ;)

Please make a list of all of the Politicians that receive money from Israel's backers...and the amount received and the donor. If you cannot list all of them...the amount and the donor...then list just five.

So having learnt NOTHING from backing Iraq against Iran, or backing Afghanis against the Russians, go and do the same thing over agian?

Fuck, how much freebasing do they do to come up with this shit?

Wrong...as usual. Those muslim nations (and anyother nation) that position themselves by their deeds to become percieved as hostile to the USA.

Since when is common sense inflammatory?

I hate Bush didn't vote for him, but at this time support whatever measures it takes to ensure that my nieces don't grow up having to worry about suicide bombers walking into the clubs or cafes they frequent.

But, for those who wish to call him Hitler. Give me a fucking break.

The comparisons are so far off and in my opinion do such a disservice to the victims and trivialize the crimes against humanity Hitler commited.

Give the millions who died, and the 10's of millions who survived the legacy of pain this man left the respect they deserve.

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Wrong, if you stopped supporting Israel it would change, in time. But then you have to think what your politicians will do without the money they get from Israels backers.
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Please make a list of all of the Politicians that receive money from Israel's backers...and the amount received and the donor. If you cannot list all of them...the amount and the donor...then list just five.

Well...how about four then?

Being patriotic is great, being blind with patriotism is just fucking stupid. -ME

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!!
THIS IS AN ADULT WEBMASTER MESSAGE BOARD, NOT THE FUCKEN WASHINGTON POST!!!
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE UNITED STATES THEN GO FUCK YOURSELF AND GO POST ON ILOVEMULLAHS.COM :321GFY

What this president is doing to the Muslim world is just going to ensure that the US gets more and more suicide bombers.

Unless you want to just kill all muslims? That might work, until you run out of obvious muslims and it's just the ones that can "pass" that are left doing the suicide bombings.

"Whatever it takes" is not something that should be in the American vocabulary. Your grandfathers fought and died in WW2 to protect the freedoms that Bush and company legislate away every year in the name of "security"

Bush isn't Hitler. Yet. Some more blind "patriotism" and Nationalism (just like pre-WW2 Germany, strangely enough) - and he just might get the chance. Safe bet: Get the fucking moron out of office now.

Labret is absolutely right: Current Administation - Xian Taliban. They just don't have the power they'd like to have yet, so no one is getting stoned, just arrested.

With this kind of logic, I could accuse you of hiding WMDs up your ass and we would all interpret your refusal to be deep probed as you having something to hide.

No use arguing with these people. Bush is God, Bush is great, fuck the world, adult webmasters, and freedom.

Baaa Baaaa

Patriot Act is wonderful.

Baaa Baaaa

Hey Bush I can still take a piss without you watching. Better slide some more shit through legislation.

Baaa Baaa

Bush - The new Houdini.

Bush - See morons can make something of themselves.

Bush - Fighter Pilot Extraordinaire.

Bush - Either you're with me, or we'll accuse you of having WMD's.

Guys! It's the same world .. I'm on it too, see?

Come on Europe spent centuries at war with each other.... The US Still has thousands of troops in Western Europe. We forged aliances, created NATO wich was precurser to the EU. ( THE EU is another American idea.... )

Before 1945 Europeans were slaughtering each other.... now they all share the same currency, rely upon each other for military support, etc...

IT was the US who brought this about.... This is only for Western Europe...

The US fighting and winning the Cold War is bringing benefits to Eastern Europe now....

As far as Asia, it is a much larger place, and there are some hot spots.... but Japan, and the other Asian Tigers are doing well?? Why because of US influence, military presence, and goals...

It is funny the people who do not see this on gfy are all foreigners for the most part....

It is ok, we as Americans are secure - we do not need to be patted on the back for our accomplsihments - for making ya'll lives easier, safer.... We benefit by not having to have our young men die saving your asses... oh yeah, and a wealthy EU buys lots of American goods...

You can live in denial, just keep spending, and not killing each other.....

:winkwink:

Don't even pretend to try to get into my head and imagine what I meant by the "whatever it takes" comment.

I'm all for killing "towelheads" when they're terrorists...and no I'm not for taking away any civil liberties.

Fuck Iran, Fuck Iraq, Fuck Saudi Arabia, Fuck North Korea, Fuck Palestenians, Fuck Syria, Fuck Lybia, Fuck anyone who lives in these countries that cannot seem to learn to play well with others.

Oh yeah and fuck you for trivializing the deaths of millions of people.

What else can it be except "sad" when a nation in that position of power abuses that power?

Power is the only reason the US could remove that man: there was no legal basis on which to do so, no matter how desirable his departure may have been.

As individuals in our own communities and as countries in the global community, we rely on respect for the law to be able to live our lives unhindered. When what should be the greatest country on earth shows its contempt for the laws and conventions that keep most of us safe, we are all diminished.

The next time one country subjugates another, there won't be anything any of us can say.

Yeah right, take another hit off the bong.

Nope, not the same country, not by a long chalk. Bush wasn't in power yet.

And said OK Joey you can play in the sandbox with your little online friends again.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

How about giving us a list of the four that did not receive any money....

( seems to be the new thing: reverse culpability: not the the DA to prove the accused did the crime, but to the accused to prove he didn't do it...)

So, waiting for that list...

Israel is not supported because of any conspiracy.... it is supported because it is the only democracy and open market in the middle east.

They have also been an allie of the US for years...

Might as well look for the conspiracy between the English and the Americans... since we have supported one another for centuries... does that mean UK politicians pay off US politicians....

I love people who love conspiracies... you keep the rest of us entertained... You guys probably think the MATRIX is real...

HAHAHA

Every thing is a US idea...

Before the US, there was nothing...

History starts with the US ( and could end also with them...)

US are the best at everything.

I am so sad not being a US citizen....

I could have tried to say it better, but why, you did a great job there!

:thumbsup :thumbsup



And on this Memorial Day I feel sad for all those that have given their lives for the freedoms that we 'used' to have... It's as if Bush, Ash... & company are pissing on the graves of those patriots... in the name of patriotism...

Welcome to 1984

Ahh, theres always one anti-semetic asshole on here. Did you know that the United States military uses Israeli intelligence for most of their special-op missions? Or how about that Israel turned it's shitty desert land into a fucking oasis? But hey, we are jews, so you have to blame us, why not blame the blacks for the civil war, the jews for world war two, or the canadians just for being canadian?

:ak47:

is every anti-america brainless like you?
he already said none, but anti-america says, yes, there are.
i am waiting for the list as well

If you were a typical Jew, I'd blame the Jews for stupidity.
Thank god you aren't.

Bush has got balls -
So has Tony Blair -
They believe in everybody being free to say and do as they wish.
If Iran is next, then this must happen sooner rather tha later.

But capitol and non capitol influence does piss off non Americans -
1) Israel's occupation of Palestine.
2) Why is Mugabee allowed to rule in a way Sadam could only dream of?
3) North Korea
4) Baseball
I will not list more - Most of you know many more instances - Clearly, none of the 4 examples I have given have a right to succeed - So hopefully the joint forces will quickly go to work on those soon

I don't wonder.

He said he would blame Israel not all Jews. Blaming all jews for the action of an Israeli GOVERNMENT would be somewhat like blaming all germans for Hitler's actions don't you think?

Also the West Bank was always a nice patch of grass, why do you think they've been fighting for it for so long?

None is not a list ...
And obviously you cannot comprehend the reverse psychology here ...

The one used against Iraq and to an extent the UN : THEY have to prove that they DO NOT have WMD....

I have 3 sites to update. All models had more brains than you, ....

DirectFiesta, see now you are understanding things...

HAHA Seriously though, the US is far from perfect... our history is as stained as many other nations, however, there is no doubt we have done much more good then bad for the world.

You can choose to be ignorant, stick your head in the sand, but it won't change reality...

Being in Canada you directly benefit by being the neighbor of the lone superpower... You're welcome.

How do you like the dollar falling??

that is fucking beautiful

What freedoms has the Patriot Act taken away from you? Please give me example of how the Patriot Act has negatively affected your lives.

How could anyone who claims to love freedom so much be against destabilizing dictatorships? Or is it just your freedom you love and fuck everybody else?

so what happens when an asian decides to blow up a part of the usa? will we go after all asian countries too, or will we just have "diplomatic talks" with the country where he/she is from?

Does World War 2 ring a bell? Korea? Vietnam? You didn't watch those movies did you?

Nobody's country is perfect, and yes the US has done a lot of good in this world. What is sad is that it is now changing, maybe because there is no more other super-power to keep the balance ( read USSR...)


Honestly, it stinks. Am adding Euro to my sites....

Lastly, we still like you guys a lot....

Iran is not ran by a dictator ... In fact, they kicked out one " the Shah" that was installed by the US-Brits . The Ayatollah Kohmeiny was welcomed by the Iranians ( sure it is sick to our eyes, but it is their business) .

Sure, they have a very differenty way of living, but that doesn't justify your narrow perspective. Some countries lapidate women because they have an affair! It's awfull, but are you going to invade them too...

I understand that Bush doesn't want to take care of domestic issues, because he knows he will loose that war, so he goes into " foreign" policy and threatens most countries, ennemies and allies alike .

Welcome to Texas

Just a question :
The reason Dabyou attacked Irak was
1- weapon of mass destruction
2- links with al qaida

Did anyone have news of these weapons nor the arrest of Al Qaida members since the end of the war in Irak...???

Damned did dabyou and foxnews lie ?
I cannot believe it....:2 cents:

directFiesta you and Gorby must be the only 2 people who miss the USSR, and the "balance of power"... Well Castro and a few other dictators who relied upon the USSR for support probably misses the USSR as well...


A bi-polar system is inherently MORE stable then a multi-polar system ( what we had before WWI)...

But a single polar system has a history of working pretty well... and so far, its doing pretty good for the US....

We love our Northern Neighbors as well... we have to get our cheesy entertainers from somewhere! :Graucho :Graucho

Lapidate - had to do a google search to find out what that meant, first I thought: "Hmm.. they shave the woman's beaver for having an affair? Hell I'd invade that any day =)" - of course it means to be stoned to death, that's sad. Some things, of course do merit intervention, military or otherwise, although I'm not sure that Iran intervention is justified.

Mike Ai the reason people are nervous about this, read that quote again. It sounds an aweful lot like dictatorship or monarchy no?

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Wrong, if you stopped supporting Israel it would change, in time. But then you have to think what your politicians will do without the money they get from Israels backers.
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Charly made a statement of fact...so I assume that he has researched the matter. His implication is that our Politicians would suffer great loss of campaign funding if it were not for the backers of Israel. Going under the assumtion that he researched this mattter (and did not pull it out of his ass) I would assume that he can list the names of at least some politicians that received donations from the backers of Israel...the amount received and the name of the donor.

I on the other hand have not researched who or who has not recieved donations from the backers of Israel and do not intend to research the matter. The last polls that I saw...the majority of Americans support the right of Israel to exist and Israel is just as important to Christians as it is to Jews.

FYI I am satisfied that the backers of Israel are not the driving force behind campaign funding for any politician.

Another implication of his statement is that if the government of the USA and the citizens of the USA ceased to support Israel then we may not be under attack by Muslim terrorists.

The USA is not going to allow anyone to dictate foreign policy (let alone a group of rag tag terrorists) and I personally do not believe the cessation of support to Israel would prevent attacks upon the USA.

If you would have paid attention to my previous posts you would have learned that I am speaking about those Muslim countries or any other country that is overtly hostile to the USA and/or provides safe harbor/financial aid to those that are.

No President Bush did not lie...as those were stated reasons and were a part of a mulitude of reasons. It is ridiculous for anyone to keep repeating...the President said this and the President said that.

Did the President state the truth...the whole truth...and nothing but the truth about the multitude of reasons for invading Iraq...NO. There has not been a President, in my life time, that has told the truth...the whole truth and nothing but the truth and I personally assume that this applies to every leader of every country.

Anyone with an average IQ...that pays attention to world affairs...can read between the lines of most events of import and be at least partially right.